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Whether we can undo the damage...

24/7 has him going 100% for Duke so I sure hope you're right. I didn't think we had a shot in hell for that kid. Bamba is the guy I was thinking we would snag along with Jeremiah Tilmon. But from what I've gathered I agree, Roy has been making serious moves in the offseason. You know he wants a top class for 2017
 
It would be really great to make a statement with a big time top 5 commit. Maybe some of these kids are seeing some things that are obvious to the rest of us.
 
Ut oh dukies, is it as funny now as when I said a few weeks ago that we had a good shot at this kid, that we may not lead for him at the time but he is not a gurantee dukie lock? Now that Capel can not keep telling the kid that UNC looks like they are going to have a post season ban in your one season of college ball, things are not so certain are they. Oooops, I just raised shonuffs blood pressure by 50pts, darn, I was shootin for 100...LOL

Don't worry gary, they gonna have some fun about you today for sure, they may even hate you more than me right now, that took some doing! LOL

Seriously, I heard a while back that there was a lot of negative recruiting going on aimed at us and shared with both Carter and Knox and they were listening to it. They were especially concerned that UNC could have got a post season ban in the only season they are planning to play college ball. Now that has gone away with the NOA and we look now like Roy was telling them the truth all along and others were, shall we say being liberally progressive with the truth...
 
say, with writing like that last sentence david, there is a rag over in Rawlee that need some creative writing....:rolleyes: :cool:
 
24/7 has him going 100% for Duke so I sure hope you're right. I didn't think we had a shot in hell for that kid. Bamba is the guy I was thinking we would snag along with Jeremiah Tilmon. But from what I've gathered I agree, Roy has been making serious moves in the offseason. You know he wants a top class for 2017
Yep. Roy is going hard for a Carter/Bamba duo.

Before the new NOA most of the media conceded Wendell to dook, but they forget UNC was his early (heavy) favorite before dook even got involved (which BTW wouldn't have happened without USA Basketball, but that's a whole nuther issue). Wendell is not a "dook player" --- he is a perfect fit for our system and he knows that. In fact, without the negative junk we would have been the odds-on favorite.

However, make no mistake, the ncaa junk hurt a lot with the Carters --- and Capel apparently flat did a number on us with negative recruiting. But... now with Roy vindicated he ain't backing down. I just hope he can make up for the ground we lost....
 
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Ut oh dukies, is it as funny now as when I said a few weeks ago that we had a good shot at this kid, that we may not lead for him at the time but he is not a gurantee dukie lock? Now that Capel can not keep telling the kid that UNC looks like they are going to have a post season ban in your one season of college ball, things are not so certain are they. Oooops, I just raised shonuffs blood pressure by 50pts, darn, I was shootin for 100...LOL

Don't worry gary, they gonna have some fun about you today for sure, they may even hate you more than me right now, that took some doing! LOL

Seriously, I heard a while back that there was a lot of negative recruiting going on aimed at us and shared with both Carter and Knox and they were listening to it. They were especially concerned that UNC could have got a post season ban in the only season they are planning to play college ball. Now that has gone away with the NOA and we look now like Roy was telling them the truth all along and others were, shall we say being liberally progressive with the truth...
Hey, dookies hatin' on me is a badge of honor, Dave. And correcting your last sentence I'll just say Capel and others were FOX-y with the truth, but yeah the thing with the Carters is that academics are a big issue and apparently the junk did a lot of damage there (fanned by Capel, et al).

Again, dunno if he'll pull it off but Roy is back in it.
 
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What would the over/under be on DBR meltdown if we got Bamba/Tilman and Carter?
Oh, be still my heart...;)

Seriously, Tom, we all know the '17 class is crucial. We need another "anchor" class like '14.
Jalek is a great class cornerstone, and we're gonna need two Bigs (or a true post plus a combo-forward like say, PJ Washington). A true Point would be nice (JB, Nate and Stilman could all be gone) and an athletic 3 wouldn't hurt but frontcourt is a huge priority.(no pun intended).

From everything I've heard Roy has some extra pep in his step these days. A lotta damage was done and the damned media still ain't helping us but Roy has the final NOA going for him. And c'mon... if you're a Big who wants to touch the ball, UNC's gotta be on your list. I suspected Wendell would be back in play and that was good to hear that he is.

We still have work to do. Get 'em, Roy.
 
Hey, dookies hatin' on me is a badge of honor, Dave. And correcting your last sentence I'll just say Capel and others were FOX-y with the truth, but yeah the thing with the Carters is that academics are a big issue and apparently the junk did a lot of damage there (fanned by Capel, et al).

Again, dunno if he'll pull it off but Roy is back in it.

LOL on the Foxy, I slide on that one cause folk get mad when I talk politics on this board! LOL

But yeah, on Carter, it is like a title fight set for 12 rounds, duke hit us with a huge body shot and got the 1st round knock down but now the 8 count is done, bell rings, time for round 2. Roy ain't done punching and is gonna land his own heavy shots, we will have to see who is left standing in the end.
 
Like ya said gary, we have a cornerstone and the rest will fill in...seems the last few weeks Roy was and is doin' some work...

I'm rooting for a little more heart flutter! Where is my nitro? :eek:
 
LOL on the Foxy, I slide on that one cause folk get mad when I talk politics on this board! LOL

But yeah, on Carter, it is like a title fight set for 12 rounds, duke hit us with a huge body shot and got the 1st round knock down but now the 8 count is done, bell rings, time for round 2. Roy ain't done punching and is gonna land his own heavy shots, we will have to see who is left standing in the end.
Now THAT might be the best analogy yet.

Or you could go with pro rasslin'. Mike the Rat hits True Blue Roy with foreign objects (while the ref ain't lookin' of course) and the Rat's slimey manager (Cut-throat Capel) blows powder in his face, but just when it looks dire, the Roy-ster starts shaking and his eyes bulge out... (cue the Hulk Hogan music)....:eek:
 
God I hate Capel. From that shot in 1995, to him f***king ruining every top recruit we go after, there is not a soul in dookieland I despise more than him. Dude is a real cutthroat bastard.
Yes. His reputation precedes him. He's very adept at communicating with these kids but he's also very adept at throwing the negative sh** around.
 
Hey, dookies hatin' on me is a badge of honor, Dave. And correcting your last sentence I'll just say Capel and others were FOX-y with the truth, but yeah the thing with the Carters is that academics are a big issue and apparently the junk did a lot of damage there (fanned by Capel, et al).

Again, dunno if he'll pull it off but Roy is back in it.
Yep, dookies hatin' on you is a compliment.

No one will outwork Roy, his work ethic is legendary. To start out selling calendars and eventually become head coach of the finest basketball program in the country, that says it all.
 
Any more info on how we are doing with Carter and Bamba?
Just posted something in a new thread. I know Roy is going hard after both. All I know so far about how we actually stand with Bamba is stuff from Carolina recruiting writers, and that at least sounds pretty positive. The word down here in ATL on Wendell is still the same as from the OP.
 
Yes. His reputation precedes him. He's very adept at communicating with these kids but he's also very adept at throwing the negative sh** around.

He is also known to make promises that are not delivered on, ask Thorton who told him he would be featured in those screen roll sets... K does not make the promises, he has Capel for that and that dude will say anything to get a recruit and he hates UNC with a passion.
 
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Just posted something in a new thread. I know Roy is going hard after both. All I know so far about how we actually stand with Bamba is stuff from Carolina recruiting writers, and that at least sounds pretty positive. The word down here in ATL on Wendell is still the same as from the OP.

With Bamba, I LIKE where we stand, read between the lines there man and understand I do at times love to understate what I think or know. I think with Bamba it comes down between us, Ky, and maybe Kansas, with duke trailing.

Oh, by the way, did ya know Bamba and Carter are talking about playing together ...
 
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With Bamba, I LIKE where we stand, read between the lines there man and understand I do at times love to understate what I think or know. I think with Bamba it comes down between us, Ky, and maybe Kansas, with duke trailing.

Oh, by the way, did ya know Bamba and Carter are talking about playing together ...
I just heard a hint of that. Trent has been trying his damnedest to recruit Wendell to go with him but that has seemed to come more from Trent's end. This stuff is very fluid and this summer and early fall will be critical.
 
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Bolden is at least a 2-year player. The kid is not even close the ability of Okafor. Knowing K, he will recruit over Bolden and tell Carter that he will be the starter Day 1. Hopefully, the Bolden commitment may tip Carter over to the Heels.
 
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He is also known to make promises that are not delivered on, ask Thorton who told him he would be featured in those screen roll sets... K does not make the promises, he has Capel for that and that dude will say anything to get a recruit and he hates UNC with a passion.
and we hate him.
 
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I just heard a hint of that. Trent has been trying his damnedest to recruit Wendell to go with him but that has seemed to come more from Trent's end. This stuff is very fluid and this summer and early fall will be critical.
Gary, I think K may be on the hook to offer Tyus Jones little brother a ship. Oh, did I say that?!!!!! K will probably spurn the kid now since he got what he wanted from Tyus Jones. K, the leader of men.
 
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Bolden is at least a 2-year player. The kid is not even close the ability of Okafor. Knowing K, he will recruit over Bolden and tell Carter that he will be the starter Day 1. Hopefully, the Bolden commitment may tip Carter over to the Heels.
Great point and true. Bolden is not an OAD.
 
Great point and true. Bolden is not an OAD.

I agree, Bolden is not a one & done but he thinks he is, kinda like that Ky center they got can't think of his name but didn't play a ton but still entered the draft after his frosh season. I don't think Bolden is as big time a talent as he feels he is, most kids do think more of their game than reality should suggest but some never realize that even after playing in college, case in point Larry Drew.

But yeah, Bolden IMO does not help duke with any of the other big men they are looking at for 2017, he can be seen as a place holder in the way of huge PT these recruits want to see while 10mi down the road that is not the case for the first timer in a while. Now us looking to sign a 2 guard or a wing could be seen as a problem e we are loaded at those 2 positions.
 
Gary, I think K may be on the hook to offer Tyus Jones little brother a ship. Oh, did I say that?!!!!! K will probably spurn the kid now since he got what he wanted from Tyus Jones. K, the leader of men.
Duke has already offered.
 
He is also known to make promises that are not delivered on, ask Thorton who told him he would be featured in those screen roll sets... K does not make the promises, he has Capel for that and that dude will say anything to get a recruit and he hates UNC with a passion.



That's what made it so sweet when our boys gave Capel that butt whipping in the 2009 tourney.:D
 
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