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I wonder how many people in the country picked St Peter's to reach the Elite 8.There goes my bracket
Absolutely none…..no wayI wonder how many people in the country picked St Peter's to reach the Elite 8.
I’m good either way with a preference for sureOk so the peacocks will beat dook and end K’s run……if we don’t.
disgusting to think that we may need that slimy bastage to take the rat outSelf might be the best chance at sending K home.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. One can only dream that we beat them both.disgusting to think that we may need that slimy bastage to take the rat out
Today is National Peacock Day! Promise, no shit. There was no way they were losing tonight.I wonder how many people in the country picked St Peter's to reach the Elite 8.
Nope DavisSelf might be the best chance at sending K home.
I heard something where their starting lineup is older than the Memphis Grizzlies?Don't ever count-out the Canes. They have experience and they have Larranaga. Kansas isn't sleeping on them!
True. But they met once in NIT... 1971, and the Heels won on their way to the NIT championship.unc and dook never met in ncaa tournament ever!!!!!!?? wtf
That’s the year they beat Dr J’s Massachusetts team in the NIT also. I remember listening to that tournament on my portable radio.True. But they met once in NIT... 1971, and the Heels won on their way to the NIT championship.
We're all hawgs today!Pig suey!!!!
Part of the reason is that until 1975 the NCAA tournament would take only 1 team from a conference. Much of the rest is that then rather quickly the NCAA began seeding Regions equally rather than by location of schools - meaning, a UCLA could be in the East and a UNC in the West, to help make each Region roughly as tough as the others. When Regions were based on geography, the Pac champ almost always had a cake walk into the Final Four.unc and dook never met in ncaa tournament ever!!!!!!?? wtf
Part of the reason is that until 1975 the NCAA tournament would take only 1 team from a conference. Much of the rest is that then rather quickly the NCAA began seeding Regions equally rather than by location of schools - meaning, a UCLA could be in the East and a UNC in the West, to help make each Region roughly as tough as the others. When Regions were based on geography, the Pac champ almost always had a cake walk into the Final Four.
And then the NCAA began to make certain that the best teams from each top league would not meet each other except in the Final Four. The SEC made that happen after the NCAA set up a couple of tournaments in which ranked SEC teams were seeded to meet in the Sweet Sixteen.
UNC vs. Dook in the Final Four in Rat-face's final season would beyond huge for the NCAA.
Bill Chamberlain - UNC's second black scholly player - was the MVP of that tournament if memory serves. UNC being excluded from the Madness that year was part of the impetus to expand the tournament.True. But they met once in NIT... 1971, and the Heels won on their way to the NIT championship.
There were many ACC teams that did not win the ACC tournament that were ranked Top 15. Even when the best team during regular season won the tournament, there usually would be at least 1 other ACC team ranked Top 20. Likewise, there always was at least 1 non-champ Big Team ranked in the Top 20.Bill Chamberlain - UNC's second black scholly player - was the MVP of that tournament if memory serves. UNC being excluded from the Madness that year was part of the impetus to expand the tournament.
I don't even want to talk about WHY the Heels were in the NIT. 🤬
0.3% of the ESPN brackets had St. Peters in the Elite 8.I wonder how many people in the country picked St Peter's to reach the Elite 8.
The NIT carried a lot more clout back then.There were many ACC teams that did not win the ACC tournament that were ranked Top 15. Even when the best team during regular season won the tournament, there usually would be at least 1 other ACC team ranked Top 20. Likewise, there always was at least 1 non-champ Big Team ranked in the Top 20.
That plus the fact that many northeastern schools and smaller and/or private schools elsewhere (DePaul, Bradley, Dayton, etc.) often preferred the NIT over the NCAA meant that in many years up to the UCLA run, the NIT champ legitimately could claim to be National Champ.
The best team I saw that could not to the NCAA tournament because it did not win its conference was 1974 Maryland. The Moo-Maryland ACC final may be the best game in ACC history. Moo went on the upset UCLA in the NCAA semi and then cruise over Marquette. UCLA was fully equal to Moo, and Maryland was the 3rd best team in the country. They'd have taken Marquette as easily as Moo did.
Nobody remembers the 1974 Tar Heels because we were ranked only #12 that season. That team in the NCAA easily could have been Elite 8 and on a good night could have beaten Marquette.
Because the NCAA field was so limited there were a LOT of excellent teams available. As Woad noted above, it was the NCSU/Maryland game that forced the NCAA's hand on expansion...and that was the beginning of the end for the NIT.The NIT carried a lot more clout back then.
That's the reason I am very proud of UNC's 1971 NIT championship. The NIT final four was UNC beating Dook, and GT beating St Bonaventure, which had made the NCAA final Four the previous year, and then UNC beating GT. Also in the field were Syracuse, St Johns, Michigan, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Purdue, Dayton, Louisville, UMass (with Dr. J). That's a whole lot of basketball history and a whole lot of conference 2nd place teams.The NIT carried a lot more clout back then.