Why would they do that? Even at a reduced share in the Big, they would almost certainly still get more than an ACC share. Not to mention the conference will be dead in 10 years.
I was more referring to the Big 12 making itself more attractive than the ACC for the future, when the new contract comes up. I didn't mean the ACC would get anyone soon. The ACC is going to have to make a big splash at some point if it wants to stay together, but I think the Big 12 is positioning itself to make sure that's not a possibility. If the best Pac teams go to the Big 10 and 12, then where does that leave the ACC? ND isn't coming. Even if they did, I don't think it would be enough.
Before USC and UCLA left, I would have agreed that the Big 12 was more nervous. With them leaving, I don't think they are as worried. Everyone knows that the Big 10 is going to have to have a west coast pod at some point, which probably means Oregon and Washington at minimum. That doesn't leave much left for the Pac.
I agree that it's more stable, but only because the GofR forces it to. That's what I meant when I said unstable stable. I can't imagine there are enough loopholes in the contract with ESPN to make up a $50+ million deficit. The ACC is never going to get that type of money.
I don't necessarily disagree with what you said. I think our only disagreement is that I think it's true only because of the GofR. If that doesn't exist, then things look a lot different. And if we've learned anything about realignment, it's that these schools have no problem lying to the media. So, while I trust what you say, I don't trust what they tell you. Good discussion though. I always like to have this discussion from a more fact and logic based point of view. Most people just want to get mad about money taking over and talk about how it was "back in my day."
They can increase revenue, steady revenue, only 2 ways: 1) add to the top of the league in terms of value to TV (i.e. Notre Dame); 2) cut out the bottom of the league in terms of value to TV (Wake and BC).
The ACC always has acted too slowly. For example, the AXC never took advantage of a growing desperate Joe Pattern by wooing PSU administrators hard. Then the ACC waited too long to go to 12. That should have happened no later than the 2000-2--1 schools year, which would have meant that not only would Maimi have the ACC football National Championship in 2001, but Butch Davis probably would have stayed to be that HC who also got another Championship in 2002. That would have blown open network doors and check books back then.
Except that those who fail to learn from there mistakes of the past are definitely going to make new ones the same way.
I'm sure it will be around for another 10 years. After that, it might start to look a lot different if there aren't major changes made.
Did you get the sense that things in Charlotte were the same as they were at Amelia Island?
Has the league looked into partnering with Google or Amazon for content? Amazon has football experience from NFL Thursday games and Google will have it via YouTube TV from Sunday ticket. Those companies can outspend everyone. I'm guessing they would also give ND significantly more than NBC if ND was willing to leave NBC.
They better finish the looking very quickly and make concrete moves that can matter positively.
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I've never heard of this site before, so I'm extremely skeptical of this reporting, but I've said before something like this would be the best option for the less attractive ACC schools. Not only does it allow the leftover schools to split a bigger piece of the current pie when the big boys leave, it also gives them some money to use once the new contract is negotiated. Multiply $300 million by a few schools and you can add that to the new TV contract in 2036.
$300 million buyout in line for FSU leaving ACC, Noles to reap 2x profits if the program joins Big Ten or SEC: Reports
Florida State's attempt to exit the Atlantic Coast Conference is reportedly gaining momentum.
Yeah, I wasn't really thinking there was anything to it since I've never heard of them before. I still believe it would be the best long term outcome for the ACC, though. There's just too much that would have to go right for the ACC to stick around past the GoR.
Makes sense, but if the Big and SEC are going to get to $100 million as projected it's going to take more than that. I just don't see it happening without ND and at least three ACC teams (preferably Clemson, FSU and UNC) being contenders for the playoff annually. I think the chances of even one of those happening is basically non existent. Hopefully I'm wrong, though. Guess we have about 10 more years before we find out.
The cost of buying out a GOR is less the fewer number of years there are left inn the contract. AS we get close to 2036, the cost of getting out of the GOR will go down. So, if ESPN holds the ACC down with no or nearly no raises, and the BT and SEC indeed get huge new deals, then it won't take 10 years for a ACC schools with resources to take the plunge.
The Pac TV offers are apparently very low, so low that there is now ay that Oregon an Washington can be expected to accept them for more than a very brief span. That pair have higher football TV ratings than all ACC teams but Clemson and FSU (in fact, both routinely draw more than UCLA and often surpass SC), so they obviously would drive the needle for the ACC. The Pac as it has been simply cannot survive very long. If nothing is changed, that deal taken will mean that Arizona also leaves for the Big 12, which will hurt Pac basketball quality and reputation (but surprisingly, Arizona does not come close to dominating Pac basketball TV viewers).
