Would you rank Ty Lawson as the second best PG
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Ty had as good a junior season as anyone at that position at UNC has ever had for one season. He would be be in my top 5! With the aforementioned Phil Ford of course Ray, Ed & The Jet; KM pushing that group hard!
Best defensive PG was Derrick Phelps. Most underrated PG is Jimmy Black. Throw in Steve Previs for one that has almost been forgotten by some folks and then I will agree with the 1-2 ranking above...
Give me Phil then after that in no particular order.............................
Ty
Ray
Jet
Jimmy
Derrick
Lebo
Butter
Ed
Larry
Ty
Ray
Jet
Jimmy
Derrick
Lebo
Butter
Ed
Larry
If you are talking strictly college I think Ty would be 3rd and that was mainly because of how much talent he was around. He didn't have to score even though he could go by anyone in the country. To me personally, Ed Cota was all you want out of a college PG. Great floor leader and facilitator. But the new generation of point guard has made the position score first. Kendall Marshall sometimes didn't get as much credit because he played around so much talent as well, but he would go in the top 5 IMO. Felton is up there as well. My knowledge before the 90's is minimal due to my youth though
No I would rank him #1 and here's why. I didn't see Ford play as I only started watching UNC bball in the early 90's. He is the best PG I've ever seen play at UNC.
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Yep. Lebo was a classic "combo" who could legitimately play both slots well. Dude was a walking clinic fundamentally.
FWIW, here's how I would rank them by skills (at their UNC peaks):
Scorer: 1. Phil 2. The Jet 3. Ray 4. Ty
Passing: 1. Butter 2. Cota 3. Ray 4. Phil
Perimeter shooting: 1. Phil 2. Lebo 3. The Jet 4. Ty
Ball Handling: 1. Ray 2. Cota 3. Phil 4. Ty
Defender: 1. Hale 2. Phelps 3. Ray 4. Ty
Finisher: 1. Phil 2. Ty 3. Ray 4. The Jet
Floor general: 1. Phil 2. Black 3. Butter 4. Cota
Overall Transition game: 1. Phil 2. Ty 3. Ray 4. Cota
So I suppose, taking a composite, I'm saying Ray was overall #2 to Phil. But hell, UNC is Point Guard U, so you can flip anybody's rankings and still make a good argument.
I hear ya. That was a close one. Heck, all 4 of those guys were one-man press-breakers.
I actually started out with Cota and flipped it twice before I posted
Steve Previs is in the top 5 regardless who is #2. Phil Ford is the undisputed king of PG's at Carolina.
Felton has to be top 5.
Phil
Lawson
Felton
The Jet
Ed
*Butter - had he stayed another year, he could have been as high as 2. But with only a year and half as the guy, no way I can put him above Felton and Lawson, who engineered championships or Ed and Jet who were just outstanding individual players. Butter is probably the best passer of all of them - a true PG. But his minimal time here and his lack of scoring capability don't push him in front of any of the above guys.
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Even though he missed the yam, I miss these days
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Even though he missed the yam, I miss these days
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