JovialMuse said:

I may have done a poor job communicating my current state of mind with this team. I agree with you and Gary that this team has top-15 talent. RJ is a proven commodity, Ian and Drake are emerging stars even if inconsistent (to be expected with freshmen), EC is really good (also inconsistent but for different reasons), and Seth... Washington... all talented... I could go on. Seeing them all show flashes of their ceiling but seemingly consistently underperforming tells me we're misusing them or deploying schemes that don't maximize our current roster which aligns I think with yours and Gary's opinion mostly. There's no Cormac or Harrison out there this season lighting fires under players in games either which hurts but that itself can't explain this level of regression in my opinion.

I really want Hubert to work out, i do, but at this point Hubert's record is: a very underwhelming first season with an amazing month of March, a terrible second season, a great 3rd season, and now another underwhelming 4th season. So, if my math is correct,that's approximately 6 good months and 12 bad months with this staff. That's not Carolina basketball.

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Heelicious said:

I seriously mean it’s nice to have this positive outlook. Kudos.

But can you say Hubert has made this year’s team better - any player as an individual- or the team as a whole, given the known pieces / players he has - and all their strengths and limitations as individuals and as a team? Has he built game plans and coached them to optimize (get most out of what they are, stretch and challenge them) them as a team? That’s what being a good coach means to me. You see it often at smaller or lesser known programs who compete and win above average / expected level.

I see absolutely none of that with Hubert in 4 years, especially this year. If anything this team has regressed from early on. Maybe that is because through scouting teams can see how to play us and that we have zero inside game or threat. Ok - so what does Hubert do to adjust to that strategically?

All I see or hear is a bunch of “golly gee we need to play hard and smart and outcompete and hope for the best”. Empty BS that no legit high level D1 coach should get away with, let alone what should be a top 5 (top 10 at least) program and job in the nation

He’s had 4 years to show he can be a good D1 coach. I don’t see improvement or learning by him in any area. I seriously ask his supporters who ask for more time for him - what is one thing as a coach he’s improved on in his 4 years or this year? And that includes picking coaches / staff on his bench who can make the team develop, get better ie a big man coach, a shooting specialist coach, defensive coach, etc?

I’m out on Hubert no matter how this year ends - and I guarantee it’s going to end poorly. No way we make ncaa tourney - and likely won’t play in NIT. Making the NIT should be a humiliation for this program obviously, not a goal

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