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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

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Heels Noir said:
Q - How many MAGA members does it take to change a lightbulb?

A - 100. One to pay a liberal who is intelligent enough to get the task done and the other 99 to sit around and complain about the way he's doing it.
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Meanwhile, there's still a 1,000,000 other lightbulbs that the government has funded and paid to be installed that never get done because your liberal got promoted to supervise the lightbulb installers and decided to hire only vertically challenged installers who can't reach the light sockets. No one complains because it wouldn't be fair to target the little people, so most libs just stay in the dark. The remaining MAGA's who have working light bulbs simply don't use them because they can't afford to pay for the electricity.
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2025 recruiting....

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Ozheelfan said:
WWJD, this is the best post I’ve ever seen from you and one of the best on the entire topic.

I admit I severely dislike the current player bidding wars, and do not see how it is sustainable… but time will tell on that.

You’ve hit the nail on the head suggesting UNC might be better off targeting non-NBA ready players because these players have been the best for UNC over the last 25 yrs: May, Felton, McCants, Hansborough, Lawson, Ellington, Berry, Jackson, Hicks, Meeks, Bacot, RJ were all highly rated high schoolers but had flaws which kept them from being OAD.

The truth is, talent is needed…. But more necessary, is talent that sticks around.
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Except for the past 18 months we are losing every recruitment we've been in for the 5-stars that fit the Felton, May, McCants, Hansbrough, Lawson, Ellington, Berry, Jackson, Hicks, Bacot mold.
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OOTB Carolina football discussion thread

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blazers said:
And IMO, NIL money should be less about HS recruiting (front 7 aside) and more about retention and acquisition.
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this cannot be stated enough and it’s why nil has gotten out of control…this is the reason i was for it, to keep and acquire.

hs kids should not be involved at all in any payment or promise of payment…that’s where it becomes unfair and unbalanced.

let the schools gather resources, if they choose, to retain and recruit through the portal, period.
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2025 recruiting....

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What Would Jesus Do? said:
I'm inclined to agree.

The other side of NIL is that we keep some fine players longer. Maybe not the future NBA stars, but excellent collage players like Armando and RJ. Without NIL some of these guys would enter the draft and, if not drafted, would be playing overseas.

Most top NIL players are still going OAD if they can, I assume, but the pressure to move on is lower knowing they can earn a whole lot if they stick around. A decade ago, sticking around got them an education. Today it can get them 5 figures, maybe more.

Roy often seemed to land high-rated players who needed development. Whereas coaches like K and Cal often ended up with players who were only in college because the NBA wasn't drafting straight from HS. So top UK and Duke players were soon in the NBA, while our top guys would join them a couple of years later.

I think that distinction still exists. There are the top players who are NBA-ready and top players who need development. The NBA read ones are the ones getting the obscene NIL deals.

If Roy could win with unpaid guys who stuck around for a few years, surely Hubert can win with well-paid guys who stick around for a few years.

Which is to say that I don't think we need the players who command these absurd NIL payoffs.

The big difference from the Roy era is that Roy would sometimes get the OAD. Because why not? If the guy wanted to play here, absolutely welcome him on board. But these days even if the guy wants to play here, if he can get double the money elsewhere he's unlikely to pick us.
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WWJD, this is the best post I’ve ever seen from you and one of the best on the entire topic.

I admit I severely dislike the current player bidding wars, and do not see how it is sustainable… but time will tell on that.

You’ve hit the nail on the head suggesting UNC might be better off targeting non-NBA ready players because these players have been the best for UNC over the last 25 yrs: May, Felton, McCants, Hansborough, Lawson, Ellington, Berry, Jackson, Hicks, Meeks, Bacot, RJ were all highly rated high schoolers but had flaws which kept them from being OAD.

The truth is, talent is needed…. But more necessary, is talent that sticks around.
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

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What Would Jesus Do? said:
Not turning people away is not the same as an open border. "Get in line and wait your turn to be processed" is not turning people away. And that's her position.
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Except they’re not being asked to wait in line to be processed. Dims are allowing them to get into the movie theater without a ticket and giving them free concession snacks while charging citizens admission and $15 for popcorn and a drink. Welcome to Kamala's America.
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UNC to Host GT to Open ACC Play in Hoops

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The league is slowly releasing the schedule this week. The opening games for everyone came out today. Here is it...

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (TheACC.com) – The Atlantic Coast Conference today announced its matchups in the conference opening weekend for the 2024-25 men’s basketball season. The games on Dec. 7 and 8 will mark the first time the ACC will feature 18 teams in action.

The full conference schedule, including most game times and television designations, will be announced on Tuesday, Sept. 24, from 8-9 p.m. on ACC Network.

California, SMU and Stanford will play their first ACC games on Saturday, Dec. 7. Stanford and California renew their rivalry by facing off in the ACC opener in Berkeley, California, while SMU entertains Virginia in Dallas, Texas. Fresh off its historic run to an ACC Championship and Final Four appearance in 2024, NC State starts its ACC schedule on Dec. 7 at home against Florida State.

In addition, ESPN announced Monday the game times and networks for the 2024 SEC/ACC Men’s Basketball Challenge. The second iteration of the event features 16 games from Tuesday-Wednesday, Dec. 3-4, airing across ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ACC Network and SEC Network.

2024-25 ACC Men’s Basketball Opening-Weekend Games

Saturday, Dec. 7

Clemson at Miami, Noon, ESPN2
Boston College at Wake Forest, Noon, ACCN
Syracuse at Notre Dame, Noon, The CW
Georgia Tech at North Carolina, 2 p.m., ACCN
Pitt at Virginia Tech, 2 p.m., ESPNU
Virginia at SMU, 2:15 p.m., The CW
Stanford at California, 4 p.m., ACCN
Florida State at NC State, 4 p.m., ESPNU

Sunday, Dec. 8

Duke at Louisville, 6 p.m., ACCN


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2024 SEC/ACC Men’s Basketball Challenge

Tuesday, Dec. 3
Arkansas at Miami, 7 or 7:30 p.m., ESPN or ESPN2
Syracuse at Tennessee, 7 or 7:30 p.m., ESPN or ESPN2
South Carolina at Boston College, ACCN, 7 p.m.
Notre Dame at Georgia, ESPNU, 7 p.m.
California at Missouri, SECN, 7 p.m.
Wake Forest at Texas A&M, ESPN2, 9 p.m.
Ole Miss at Louisville, ACCN, 9 p.m.
Georgia Tech at Oklahoma, ESPNU, 9 p.m.
Florida State at LSU, SECN, 9 p.m.
Kentucky at Clemson, ESPN, 9:30 p.m.

Wednesday, Dec. 4
Alabama at North Carolina, ESPN, 7:15 p.m.
Virginia at Florida, ESPN2, 7:15 p.m.
Auburn at Duke, ESPN, 9:15 p.m.
Texas at NC State, ESPN2, 9:15 p.m.
Vanderbilt at Virginia Tech, ACCN, 9:15 p.m.
Pitt at Mississippi State, SECN, 9:15 p.m.
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