That happens and we are cutting down nets in AprilI just glanced at 5 way-too-early mock drafts.
Drake Powell is a lottery pick on 3 of them (highest = #2); Ian Jackson is a lottery pick on 2 of them (highest = #8).
Cadeau's top ranking = #17.
Yeah, pretty worthless this soon; but not too shabby. And it's summer....
Darn right!That happens and we are cutting down nets in April
That happens and we are cutting down nets in April
Great to hear from the perspective of wanting to see more Tar Heels in the NBA.I just glanced at 5 way-too-early mock drafts.
Drake Powell is a lottery pick on 3 of them (highest = #2); Ian Jackson is a lottery pick on 2 of them (highest = #8).
Cadeau's top ranking = #17.
Yeah, pretty worthless this soon; but not too shabby. And it's summer....
This may piss off some folks but understand what I am about to say is extremely nuanced, it isn't as bad as it likely will be taken. I see a LOT of folks excited about our coming team for this season while I am honestly right now really concerned, much more so than I was going in to last season. The construction of this team is to me a team that Kelvin or Danny Hurley could develop in to being a final 4 level team, I am not really ready to see this as a team Hubert will be able to develop to that level. OK, chill for a minute, Hubert is just now going in to his 4th season EVER as a head coach. I am not saying Hubert can't, saying I am not expecting it like others seem ready to.The practices at UNC will be intense and that level of iron will sharpen our players. My optimistic take on this is we are very blessed to have a coach who seems able to manage the egos that go with the obvious talent on our team! Putting peeps of this level together shows Hubs mastery at recruiting talent that will fit together! Contrast that with puke who simply tries to get talent and hopes they will somehow fit! Amazingly enough, we might have a potential top 15 pick come off the bench at least to start the season! Should be a fun season and a wild ride!
I totally agree with this. Coach Davis has shown he can coach when he has the parts that fit the style he wants to play. When he is lacking those parts .... UNC has struggled. The biggest difference between those teams and this is that he has a natural pg, and I think in today's game that forcing tempo and giving yourself those extra possessions can more than offset a suspect post game.This may piss off some folks but understand what I am about to say is extremely nuanced, it isn't as bad as it likely will be taken. I see a LOT of folks excited about our coming team for this season while I am honestly right now really concerned, much more so than I was going in to last season. The construction of this team is to me a team that Kelvin or Danny Hurley could develop in to being a final 4 level team, I am not really ready to see this as a team Hubert will be able to develop to that level. OK, chill for a minute, Hubert is just now going in to his 4th season EVER as a head coach. I am not saying Hubert can't, saying I am not expecting it like others seem ready to.
Drake has had a near Jordan like dramatic rise in the eyes of scouts.
We have the next Michael Jodan but should run Hubert out of town or lynch him. Got it.Dean was nearly run out of town before his 4th season as head coach, the dukies were ready to lynch K
There is as well another aspect of coaching that is not as talked about but is extremely important. Some coaches, even some that are thought to be top shelf coaches, the poster child for me is Calipari, win a LOT of games but for them to do so they have to have the clear talented advantage. Then that big time talent moves on to the NBA after a season in college and becomes a star at the next level and that college program that he spent little more than a cup of coffee at get praised for "developing" college players in to NBA stars? LOL Like in some way there is a college coach in the country that would not have seen Anthony Davis be lotto after a single season, Zion, Bagley, Booker, on and on.I totally agree with this. Coach Davis has shown he can coach when he has the parts that fit the style he wants to play. When he is lacking those parts .... UNC has struggled. The biggest difference between those teams and this is that he has a natural pg, and I think in today's game that forcing tempo and giving yourself those extra possessions can more than offset a suspect post game.
It's summer. What else is there to do?People really overthink things here.
I totally agree with this. Coach Davis has shown he can coach when he has the parts that fit the style he wants to play. When he is lacking those parts .... UNC has struggled. The biggest difference between those teams and this is that he has a natural pg, and I think in today's game that forcing tempo and giving yourself those extra possessions can more than offset a suspect post game.
I think one thing he likes, not saying I agree or disagree, is to have a backcourt with two guards capable of running the point on any given possession. I think EC might become a clear point dawg, and demand a more traditional 2 guard approach, but Hubert has commented consistently that he likes the idea of a backcourt with "2 point guards" capable guys.What are the parts he likes and wants? No one seems to be able to plainly state that. So if we don't really know what type of players and style Hubert wants to run, how do we know this coming season's team will or won't be in that style?
The 2 PG approach that Roy always wanted, was intriguing but for me there has always been that old saying in football, if you go into the season with 2 QBs then you really don't have a clear starting QB. I consider the PG to be the head of the snake, the guy that is the extension of the coach on the floor, he owns the keys to the sports car as we say. Last season, yet again this season, our floor leader is a parttime PG and our starting 2, strikes me as a bit out of kilter?I think one thing he likes, not saying I agree or disagree, is to have a backcourt with two guards capable of running the point on any given possession. I think EC might become a clear point dawg, and demand a more traditional 2 guard approach, but Hubert has commented consistently that he likes the idea of a backcourt with "2 point guards" capable guys.
I think one thing he likes, not saying I agree or disagree, is to have a backcourt with two guards capable of running the point on any given possession. I think EC might become a clear point dawg, and demand a more traditional 2 guard approach, but Hubert has commented consistently that he likes the idea of a backcourt with "2 point guards" capable guys.
Slinger, I think before we can discuss what type of players Hubert is looking for to fit his approach that Hubert would first need to have his approach well defined, so far there have been way to many changes in his approach for it to be well defined on either end, I do think he is moving to that point however. Right now it seems like he is struggling to force fit guys into roles he wants them to play rather than play more to their natural strengths. Want some examples, 1) Nance as a camping outside the 3pt arch shooter rather than being the center he should have been. 2) Trying to turn Jalen into a version of Bacot, did you notice the later part of the season that Jalen's jumper seemed MIA 3) Putting guys like Leaky and Cadeau in positions were they have to jump shoot treys, a clear weakness for both. Just 3 examples off the top, there are more. The next level of execution for Huibert will be to realize that you MUST put guys in position to be able to work to the strength of their game rather than force fit them it has to be a natural fit.What are the parts he likes and wants? No one seems to be able to plainly state that. So if we don't really know what type of players and style Hubert wants to run, how do we know this coming season's team will or won't be in that style?
Not only do I think Drake can play the 2, it may be his best position, I think it is absolutely his NBA future position. I do think for now Jack is a bit ahead of him from a shooting/scoring aspect, Drake is not a shoot first guy, he is looking for the great pass to a more open teammate and he is a excellent passing guard, way under appreciated in that consideration. 7ft reach on a 6'6" kid, really long, so was Caleb but Drake isn't ball dominant, Jack is I think to an extent. The ball just finds Drake, recall how the ball used to just seem to find guys like Ingram, Theo? I see Drake as a kid that just effects the game over all when he steps on the court, he doesn't fade in to the back ground. He creates chaos for the opponents to have to deal with, if his jump shooting gets consistent he is a true 3 level scorer as well as a lock down defender, heck of a combination. Don't be shocked if he finds his way into the starting line up before the coming season is over.Can Drake Powell play SG?
Unlikely to happen considering who's ahead of him on the roster at that position, but I'm just curious if he'd be good at that position.
Dav did you see all that from his hs play? I just didn’t see it during our few scrimmages. I don’t doubt the talent, just seems a little high for what he’s done.Not only do I think Drake can play the 2, it may be his best position, I think it is absolutely his NBA future position. I do think for now Jack is a bit ahead of him from a shooting/scoring aspect, Drake is not a shoot first guy, he is looking for the great pass to a more open teammate and he is a excellent passing guard, way under appreciated in that consideration. 7ft reach on a 6'6" kid, really long, so was Caleb but Drake isn't ball dominant, Jack is I think to an extent. The ball just finds Drake, recall how the ball used to just seem to find guys like Ingram, Theo? I see Drake as a kid that just effects the game over all when he steps on the court, he doesn't fade in to the back ground. He creates chaos for the opponents to have to deal with, if his jump shooting gets consistent he is a true 3 level scorer as well as a lock down defender, heck of a combination. Don't be shocked if he finds his way into the starting line up before the coming season is over.
Of course RJ starts at the 2 and most feel Jack or Seth are his back ups at the 2, I think that means Drake may be Tyson's primary back up at the 3. Just my opinion...
Some of my thoughts are based off of BOTH what he did, specifically in his last season of eligibility in high school as well as summer ball. His progression from Jr to Sr seasons was to me really eye opening, I went from not being excited at all frankly to oh man, this kid is special, maybe even more so than Jack. Yes, some based off the scrimmages we all saw, more confirming than anything else for me but I put that together with what some of the "experts" are now saying, many are now calling for him to start at the 3 out right.Dav did you see all that from his hs play? I just didn’t see it during our few scrimmages. I don’t doubt the talent, just seems a little high for what he’s done.
Man I hope so. He’d definitely add more depth no matter if he starts or not. ThanksSome of my thoughts are based off of BOTH what he did, specifically in his last season of eligibility in high school as well as summer ball. His progression from Jr to Sr seasons was to me really eye opening, I went from not being excited at all frankly to oh man, this kid is special, maybe even more so than Jack. Yes, some based off the scrimmages we all saw, more confirming than anything else for me but I put that together with what some of the "experts" are now saying, many are now calling for him to start at the 3 out right.
I look at a thing like those scrimmages a bit different, at least I feel like I do, than most. I look at guys like Drake and Jack and I am not as concerned with how much did they score, I look more to how they move, do I see a skill that is ACC level right now, does the ball find him or does he blend in to the back ground. Does he seem able to score as a catch and shoot guy, can he create his own shot, how does his handle look, is he crafty with his ball handles, are his passes purposeful or is he bailing out with his passing. Does he create havoc with his defense, can he rebound and lead the break, does he make good decisions. I saw glimpses of all the above, especially in that second scrimmage.
Do I need to see more, for sure I do, I trust my own eyes over anyone else's but when I see a glimpse from a kid yet to go thru his first college practice, then the ability is there, it just has to be nurtured.
2025 NBA draft hot take!
If the coming season goes like most UNC fans think (I am not totally in that group) then the first UNC player taken in the next draft is Jalen Washington! Now after you stop laughing, hear me out... WE are talking about a 6'10" guy, should weight in a touch shy of 240 this season, was listed at 230lbs last season. 7'4-5" reach. Has shown us a really sweet shooting stroke from deep and his defense picked up as the season went deep, should be much improved in that aspect this coming season. His minutes should go from 8 this past season to 25mins or more for the coming season, as a defender he should at very least be decent and could be above average. That is kind of the prototype of that the NBA is looking for, centers that can jump shoot from deep and hold their own on the other end. He has to show durability and do a better job of picking when to foul and when not to, and better lateral movement. But if he shows those things he goes off the board before Jack or Drake or any other Tar Heel player.
We play Kansas - at Kansas - on Nov 8.i love JWash but he’s not going above Ian or Drake in any draft…no matter how much he improves/stays healthy
OK, then tell me why? I have offered the NBA protype big man that the NBA seems all about, he hits the metrics.i love JWash but he’s not going above Ian or Drake in any draft…no matter how much he improves/stays healthy
Don't forget Elliot and Cade.Ian, Drake, and JWash will all get the chance to make their cases to the NBA! I hope all three showout and go 1-3 in the lottery!