30+ teams could be punished for recruiting violations
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Could this possibly spell the end of the NCAA? In their infinite wisdom they sold off their most lucrative product -- college football -- to the Bowl Alliance/BCS/Playoffs. That has left college basketball as the source of roughly 80% of their revenue, if I understand the arrangement correctly.
Not gonna happen. Guys like that are generational.
Cousy--> West-->Maravich-->Bird-->Luuuuuuuuuuuuuke
Shoe companies and sponsors aren't going anywhere. Too much money. Schools will never allow it to happen.
I'm hoping this will force the ncaa to change to a model similar to the Olympic model. That would cut down on people getting paid under the table, while also keeping kids going to the blue blood schools which benefits the ncaa.
And it would forever end the "schools need to pay players" argument. It's such a simple solution and requires no effort on anyone's part (except for the student-athletes who will now be able to market themselves).
Think of the money Joel Berry -- who probably won't be an NBA player -- could make in appearance fees around Chapel Hill on a random Tuesday evening.
Basketball is much more prone to big-time player payments because of a myriad of reasons, the main ones being:
1. Basketball players have a "face." The NBA is marketed on individual star power. Shoe companies want to tap into that and leverage their relationship with schools to steer big-time recruits to certain schools and then help said player build his brand as he progresses to the NBA.
2. Fewer players in basketball and one recruit truly can make a big impact. A booster is much more likely to pay Zion Williamson big bucks under the table than to pay, say, Justin Fields (#1 recruit in football in this past cycle). Zion can legitimately turn any team he goes to into a potential national champion. Fields does not have the same impact on the football program he chooses, even though he's a QB. Football is too much of a team game. Now, I'm not saying that boosters don't pay football players. They do. But in general, the high-dollar payments are going to go to basketball recruits who are more important to programs and there's much more scarcity of elite recruits.
To be fair, strum, college basketball is a shadow of its former self. Think about how it used to be, when you were growing up and into your adolescent years and 20s, and now think of how the game is today. If anything, this investigation will help turn college hoops back into what it used to be. The college game was so much better off when guys stayed for multiple years and developed into household names while still in school (like is the case in football). That way, networks can market a Duke - Kansas game as "Star X vs. Star Y" rather than just having to market it as "Duke vs. Kansas," if that makes sense. And it wasn't like it was eons ago that this was the norm. It's only been since about 2010 that it's changed.
Maybe you're right.
Although, to be fair, the "way it was back then" is really impossible to replicate. It's sort of the cool thing about it. "It was great back then." But, I understand what you mean.
It would be kinda interesting for UNC, because of our dealings with the NCAA for the last... 8 years?... is what actually helps exonerate us from this sting. It does seem like it would be less likely that our program, under the microscope, was also risking an even worse activity.
It doesn't exonerate us from anything. Our program not participating in illegal / against NCAA rules activities (if indeed we didn't) is what will exonerate us.
Yeah it won't ever again be like it was in the 70s and 80s, but it could definitely get back to how it was in the late 90s and very early 2000s, where you still had future NBA All-Stars staying for 2 years or more a lot of the time (Chris Paul comes to mind).
If it's a HOF coach in the cross-hairs, my money would be on Boeheim.
It's entirely possible that Self is considered (and mistaken) as a HOF coach by whomever is reporting that detail.
Possible, but since it's from the ncaa site and Roy made a video congratulating him I feel like it's a true story.
No one but Jay bilas gave us any love during our issues. Honestly karma would be nice right about now . K would end his career with a black eye and I would be glad
I looked on what I thought was the official site, The College Basketball Experience Hall of Fame. It was the first search result when I googled College Basketball Hall of Fame. He's not on that list.
He is on the list for the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (note that the word "College" doesn't appear in their title).
I had no idea there were two Halls of Fame. Weird.
Eric Bossi says this is just a way for the FBI to get more people talking. Don’t know how true that is or not.
Roy says he’s confident that the Heels are ok. He was sure men’s basketball wouldn’t get nailed in the scandal and he was right about that, so I’ll trust in him.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...t-north-carolina-tar-heels-not-part-fbi-probe
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...t-north-carolina-tar-heels-not-part-fbi-probe
Based on what Will Graves was doing in a rental house owned by Roy, I’m going to say that he may not be aware of everything going on under him.
Thank God that Roy doesn't put his nose in everyone's business.
As long as Roy takes care of UNC's BBALL business, who gives a flying fvck what happens at his rental house. It's certainly not on him . .
Pot smoker haters can go to effing hell.
As long as Roy takes care of UNC's BBALL business, who gives a flying fvck what happens at his rental house. It's certainly not on him . .
Pot smoker haters can go to effing hell.
I’m not a smoker, or a toker (occasionally I am a joker) .... but I say live and let live, man.
I'm listening to that song right now, Mark . . I'm not kidding either. A live version of Stevie 'guitar' Miller . .
amazing.
If, you don't toke up, I have no less respect for those folks . .
Much Love, my brother.
My first concert ever was Steve Miller Band with the Doobie Brothers opening. My dad took me when I was 13. Hardee’s Walnut Creek
What year, Ticket-man . . ? TIA
I'm looking at a possible Doobie Bros/Steely Dan concert at Jiffy Lube in July IIRC . . a big an of both.
Don't even look, just go. You won't regret that one at all. There will probably be very cheap tickets available, even though that's the kinda show that's worth shelling out the big bucks for quality tickets...
It's July 10 . . I can get good tickets at $79.50/seat . . it's a great venue for concerts too.
I saw the Dan a few years ago (they were great), but not sure what to expect without Walter ... RIP. They open that tour in Charlotte this May. Thinking about it...
I also see where Steve Miller is going on tour with Peter Frampton. But I didn’t see any stops in NC. Dammit.
The wake&bakers among us will be highly disappointed to observe such an obvious wasting of buzzes.
For shame and tsk, tsk.
My donut is suddenly not as tasty.
Dammital.
For shame and tsk, tsk.
My donut is suddenly not as tasty.
Dammital.
I trust you have a real donut (Krispy Kreme) and not that garbage from Dunkin Donuts.
I trust you have a real donut (Krispy Kreme) and not that garbage from Dunkin Donuts.
Always trying to start a fight.
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