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ACC Tourney 2017

Our State hit Boeheim with a "bless your heart."

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You talk a lot of shit about a state whose flagship university you attended.

That was a legitimate question. The only way to interpret that was that Greensboro is what makes NC great, which is something I'd disagree with.

I'm not talking shit about the state at all (please correct me if I'm wrong). In discussions like these I may play devil's advocate in an attempt to try to get some poasters to realize that there's a whole wide world outside of Small Town, NC that might be beneficial for many reasons as well.
 
That was a legitimate question. The only way to interpret that was that Greensboro is what makes NC great, which is something I'd disagree with.

I'm not talking shit about the state at all (please correct me if I'm wrong). In discussions like these I may play devil's advocate in an attempt to try to get some poasters to realize that there's a whole wide world outside of Small Town, NC that might be beneficial for many reasons as well.
Who exactly has ever denied that there's a wide world outside Small Town, NC that has its own set of benefits? Just curious.

Boeheim's comment about Greensboro was dickish. Is there anything wrong with having a little fun poking back at him?
 
Who exactly has ever denied that there's a wide world outside Small Town, NC that has its own set of benefits? Just curious.

No one. Not many have advocated that either though.

Boeheim's comment about Greensboro was dickish. Is there anything wrong with having a little fun poking back at him?

When you imply that Greensboro is what makes NC great, then ya.
 
That was a legitimate question. The only way to interpret that was that Greensboro is what makes NC great, which is something I'd disagree with.
You know I'm usually just messing with you, even if sometimes I'm more serious.

You may not know this but Our State is a magazine that seeks to highlight all the cool things about North Carolina, from the smallest small town to the biggest city and everything in between. When they said "it looks like you don't know what makes North Carolina great..." they were referencing the whole state since that is what they cover.

Remember, Jimmy B didn't include Charlotte in his approved list either. He said Atlanta, D.C., NYC
 
Remember, Jimmy B didn't include Charlotte in his approved list either. He said Atlanta, D.C., NYC

I think Charlotte and Greensboro (maybe even Raleigh) should be in the rotation as well. It keeps it fun when you mix up the locales and don't stick in a (less than ideal) place just for tradition's sake.
 
I think Charlotte and Greensboro (maybe even Raleigh) should be in the rotation as well. It keeps it fun when you mix up the locales and don't stick in a (less than ideal) place just for tradition's sake.
Boeheim said there's no value in playing in Greensboro, ever. That's what people are picking on and clapping back at.

Sounds to me like you agree with us more than you do with him.
 
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I think Charlotte and Greensboro (maybe even Raleigh) should be in the rotation as well. It keeps it fun when you mix up the locales and don't stick in a (less than ideal) place just for tradition's sake.
I don't think they could play in Raleigh, as its moo's home court. Of course that didn't stop the wolpfack from snagging half their ACCT titles in Reynolds back in the 50's & 60's.
 
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Lines for today's 4 games :

UNC -8.5

Louisville -2.5

FSU -6.5

UVA -5
 
NC is dead center of the ACC, and is the headquarters. So while I don't feel that Greensboro should host it predominantly, it certainly should be in the rotation. Along with Charlotte, Atlanta, NY.
Someone explain to me why it should be in New York. I'm not trying to be "anti-North" or anything like that. I love New York City. I've been three times and it's a damn cool city. Maybe the coolest city I've ever been to besides London.

By why on earth should the ACCT be held there? Exactly 3 ACC schools are anywhere close to NYC.
 
Someone explain to me why it should be in New York. I'm not trying to be "anti-North" or anything like that. I love New York City. I've been three times and it's a damn cool city. Maybe the coolest city I've ever been to besides London.

By why on earth should the ACCT be held there? Exactly 3 ACC schools are anywhere close to NYC.

Same reason the Big Ten is having theirs in Washington DC -- literally out of the way for every team not named Maryland. They are just money whores.
 
For anyone whose seen Justified, right now Hark is reminding me of the snitch from Season 1 (his name escapes me at the moment) from Brooklyn. @heelz2345 @grillheel

He cracks me up. Every episode he's in he's talking to local Kentuckians and he's like "I gotta get out of this backwoods town in this backwoods state with all these dumbass, gross, dirty, uneducated, hillbilly bumpkins......................Oh, no offense."

LOL
 
Same reason the Big Ten is having theirs in Washington DC -- literally out of the way for every team not named Maryland. They are just money whores.
Here's the thing though -- I don't understand how it makes "more" money based on geographical location. The ACCT is probably the most coveted conference tourney from a TV standpoint. ESPN or CBS or whoever will bid top dollar -- within the market of CBB which ain't nearly as much as other sports -- to broadcast the thing, regardless of where it's located.

Everyone is like "oh man, you gotta put it in New York!" Why though? I'm just looking for tangible evidence that it generates more money there than somewhere else.
 
For anyone whose seen Justified, right now Hark is reminding me of the snitch from Season 1 (his name escapes me at the moment) from Brooklyn. @heelz2345 @grillheel

He cracks me up. Every episode he's in he's talking to local Kentuckians and he's like "I gotta get out of this backwoods town in this backwoods state with all these dumbass, gross, dirty, uneducated, hillbilly bumpkins......................Oh, no offense."

LOL
Pinter (thanks Google)
 
Here's the thing though -- I don't understand how it makes "more" money based on geographical location. The ACCT is probably the most coveted conference tourney from a TV standpoint. ESPN or CBS or whoever will bid top dollar -- within the market of CBB which ain't nearly as much as other sports -- to broadcast the thing, regardless of where it's located.

Everyone is like "oh man, you gotta put it in New York!" Why though? I'm just looking for tangible evidence that it generates more money there than somewhere else.

I don't disagree with you at all, but the ACC execs believe that moving to a major media market will enhance the brand, and ultimately, increased revenues. I personally, as I alluded to yesterday, feel like this is similar to Nascar ditching their core base and going the white collar, clean cut look...now who the hell watches that sport anymore? They change their rules every year trying to re-engage fans and it doesn't work. They went away from what worked, and now they are suffering. When the ACC Tournament moves to Madison Square Garden permanently (which is possible), I hope they realize their mistake when tickets are being scalped out front for $5 (literally). More and more people are cutting the cord and streaming (I do) and the TV revenue IMO simply won't be there. The game has changed.
 
I don't disagree with you at all, but the ACC execs believe that moving to a major media market will enhance the brand, and ultimately, increased revenues. I personally, as I alluded to yesterday, feel like this is similar to Nascar ditching their core base and going the white collar, clean cut look...now who the hell watches that sport anymore? They change their rules every year trying to re-engage fans and it doesn't work. They went away from what worked, and now they are suffering. When the ACC Tournament moves to Madison Square Garden permanently (which is possible), I hope they realize their mistake when tickets are being scalped out front for $5 (literally). More and more people are cutting the cord and streaming (I do) and the TV revenue IMO simply won't be there. The game has changed.
You make a good point about NASCAR. It ruined itself trying to go national when it's a regional sport. It won't prosper again until it rediscovers its regional roots and puts races back at Wilkesboro, Rockingham, etc.
 
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I don't disagree with you at all, but the ACC execs believe that moving to a major media market will enhance the brand, and ultimately, increased revenues. I personally, as I alluded to yesterday, feel like this is similar to Nascar ditching their core base and going the white collar, clean cut look...now who the hell watches that sport anymore? They change their rules every year trying to re-engage fans and it doesn't work. They went away from what worked, and now they are suffering. When the ACC Tournament moves to Madison Square Garden permanently (which is possible), I hope they realize their mistake when tickets are being scalped out front for $5 (literally). More and more people are cutting the cord and streaming (I do) and the TV revenue IMO simply won't be there. The game has changed.
Good point on the scalping. Having the tourney in Greensboro, Charlotte gets you tons of fans within easy driving distance that can pick up tickets from the Clemson, Syracuse, BC contingent that will bail after their teams inevitably lose in the first round. Hell, even if UNC wasn't in the final, Carolina fans would buy tickets just to pull against dook if they were in it (and vice-versa). If the finals this year are FSU and Louisville, what are the odds that the arena will be sold out?
 
Good point on the scalping. Having the tourney in Greensboro, Charlotte gets you tons of fans within easy driving distance that can pick up tickets from the Clemson, Syracuse, BC contingent that will bail after their teams inevitably lose in the first round. Hell, even if UNC wasn't in the final, Carolina fans would buy tickets just to pull against dook if they were in it (and vice-versa). If the finals this year are FSU and Louisville, what are the odds that the arena will be sold out?

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I'd highly suggest not looking at other school's boards to see who they side with on the Boeheim issue lol....

Might be bad for your blood pressure.
 
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