I'll accuse a ref of being biased or corrupt when I see said ref caught in a gambling scandal. Until then I may not agree with calls, but I'll associate it with human error.You say that now,things change.
So, you do not know the rule concerning a player who sets a moving screen then?.!! Hicks COULD NOT get to Jenkins to block the shot because of the illegal screen. It was/is an illegal screen. That is what it will always be...
Not at all. I think of the lower seeded teams UNCW was a bad matchup for Duke as those 13 seeds go. Athletic, likes to run and press a lot. The fouls were going to be an issue...always are for UNCW and could they match Plumlee(not once Getty's fouled out) Now Yale...that's the exact same thing as people arguing that UNC got a cake walk into the final game because they played a 10 seed in the FF. Last I checked passed game 1, your teams were decided by who else won. Yale pulled an upset, that's not on the committee or Duke, just how the games went.
I'll accuse a ref of being biased or corrupt when I see said ref caught in a gambling scandal. Until then I may not agree with calls, but I'll associate it with human error.
There must be illegal contact for a moving screen to be a foul; no illegal contact, no foul, no matter how much moving the screener does.[/QUOTE
There was contact and impediment of Hicks path to the shooter by a player who was moving. Better read the rule book again big fella'...
Devil and Dbav go f%$k yourselves....Bye felicia
I'll accuse a ref of being biased or corrupt when I see said ref caught in a gambling scandal. Until then I may not agree with calls, but I'll associate it with human error.
Yeah. Several on here have no concept of the real world.I want to say this without trying to come off like I am fussing about that last game, it is not my intent to do so. But there are a lot of folks that want to fit you for a tin hat just because you see a game and feel there was some outside influence with the manner the game is called.
Guys, college sports, there is literally TO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED FOR THERE NOT TO BE OUTSIDE INFLUENCES! For anyone to suggest otherwise is indication that they do not understand how the real world works, both the good and the not so much. FOLLOW THE $$$ folks!
How many millions were involved in just this title game, heck it may have got in to the near billion range? You do not have $$$ like that tossed around and there not be corruption involved. How much $$$ was brought to the table by gambling alone, gambling, not as if that has not ever effected a sporting contest at all right? Commercial TV money, why do ya think we played so many very late games in this tourney, so the west coast viewers could see a great team play later than 5pm maybe? That is influence folks, clearly some of the match ups were influenced by commercial TV, ya think a 3rd round match up of UNC vs either Indiana or Ky was not engineered a little bit, even as the selection committee denied doing so? Ya think the defending champs being able to reach the 3rd round having to beat UNCW and the college of who the hell cares was not influenced a little bit, ya want to fit me with a tin hat for saying that feel free.
When you have Business Insider suggesting that final game did not smell right you should stop and listen, unless you want to fit well respected business publications with tin hats as well.
In any game, you have 3 men wearing striped shirts with whistles, not 3 robots but 3 human beings and MONEY can make pretty much any human being do things they would not normally do. You gonna tell me you do not have a price tag? If I offerred to give you $20 million to build a stature of K in your front yard, would ya do it? How much would it take to have to raise a duke flag in your front yard, $1 million, NO, How about $5 million?
Tell ya what folks, give me $20 million to build a statue of K in my front yard and place that money in an escrow account, I am cashing that check and sorry if that disappoints any of ya!
And what is the price tag for Vegas to buy a referee? A small call here or there in a big moment changes a game, how much would it take to make that happen? Here is a million cash, would that do it, how about 5? Is this what happened in that title game, IDK but I do know gambling interests constantly try to influence the out comes of games.
How about this, you work for the NCAA and your bosses share with you that it would be embarassing for a team under NCAA investigation to the degree we are to win the title. Sure would hate to see the very thing that pays ALL of the NCAA bills become tainted because the winner is under investigation, it could open the door for all kinds of corruption to be exposed or at very least assumed, it could tear our entire brand down, we could all be unemployed...Your boss could say that and never suggest you do anything, it just frames your thinking, you have been influenced without being given strict orders.
My point is influence happens in both overt and covert ways and some form of out side influence is always going to occur when you have so many millions of dollars involved. If you don't realize that then I am not the one that needs fitting for a tin hat, it would be you that needs that fitting. There is the side of college sports that is seen and shown to everyone but there is a dark side as well that is not shown to the public. We all want a level playing field but the field will never be level in anything where so much money is involved and that is just the cold hard truth. There have been many articles written about outside influences in college sports, there are as well influences that are defined more as inside than outside. There are things that occur every day the NCAA knows about but does nothing about, they keep those things inside the family so to speak and hope the media does not expose it for what it really is.
This AFAM issue we have, the NCAA has NEVER wanted any part of this, they never wanted this to be shown in the light of day and it scares the hell out of them now, because they know, this isn't a UNC problem, this is a problem at every one of their member schools. It is just the media ran with the UNC story and the NCAA wants that bell un-rung least it ring for EVERYONE! If you do not know this is a situation that EVERY major D-1 program has then you need the tin hat more than me...
Do you really believe that only at UNC are athletes treated differently than regular students? Do you really believe that there is a major D-1 program in basketball or football where their athletes do not get extra benefits? Answer that with a straight face Ky fan, duke fan, NC State fan, answer that without telling a lie...YOU KNOW even if you do not want to admit it...You know!
So, you do not know the rule concerning a player who sets a moving screen then?.!! Hicks COULD NOT get to Jenkins to block the shot because of the illegal screen. It was/is an illegal screen. That is what it will always be...
There was contact and impediment of Hicks path to the shooter by a player who was moving. Better read the rule book again big fella'...
Thanks for that.
Yeah. Several on here have no concept of the real world.
Theres no need for personal attacks. The meme reflects a desire to move on. Its a guy beating a dead horse. U see beating a dead horse is useless. U made your point with the horse. Just as u made your point about officiating. Any further punishment is unnecessary. It's a figure of speech that says "enough already, lets move on" and implies no judgement on what you're beating it for.
A picture is worth 1,000 words.
Quite often, yes.nope, not really. A picture is a picture. It has 0 words. Do you see imaginary captions?
nope, not really. A picture is a picture. It has 0 words. Do you see imaginary captions?
are you serious? You and your don't blame the refs fan boy club keep taking jabs at people for stating their opinion, but ya can't take it when jabs are thrown at you? GMAFB. Someone decided to make a thread to get his frustation out without reading other threads. What's the big deal? I don't care if other people have talked about the refs, he hasn't.
UR Serious? He couldn't block the shot because he was 8 feet away!
4 feet away from archie who was 4 feet away from Jenkins.
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Thanks for that. Not sure what I did to deserve it. I stated an opinion and have not insulted anyone. Is it because I'm not straight out of Compton?
Most welcome! Better than we get at DI by a bunch of those clowns and you know it.
Sorry Mike! I know you got enough stuff to deal with.
Don't care how you saw it unfold
Hicks still ALMOST got to the shooter and either blocked or altered the shot. That is what I saw and believe. Some may see it differently. Don't really care too much.
Moving screens are moving screens. Contact (when even slight) is still contact.
Puck-Chuck, do you really think tht was the only questionable, absolutely WRONG CALL/ No Call that went against UNC?
OK
Hicks did his best but it's hard to make up that much distance that fast. That fact that Berry partially screened him didn't help. BTW that was his only contact with another player during the play.
Both true but neither apply in this case.
Not saying that at all. If you read my original post you will see that I was frustrated by some of the calls. But when you state that you saw x number of bad calls and then say the last shot was a bad call I have to question the other plays you consider incorrect.
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2. I think you meant Hildabeast or Ancient Bernie as in how they think we can pay for all the giveaways. Better yet stick to Canadian politics.Ha. OK please tell me which of the following is true:
1. You are trolling. Considering the subject matter and the board it is not very funny.
2. You are serious and are one of those types that don't believe facts when they see them with their own eyes. Shorter description: Cruz or Trump?
3. You are serious but have not seen a single replay of the shot after you smashed the TV Monday night. I'd say go watch the replay and then let me know what you think.
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You post a meme of a guy beating a dead horse, yet you continue to be belabor the same point ad nauseum. You are nothing if not predictable. Don't like this discussion? Stay off the thread.Dude if you're looking for rational discussion on the officiating u wont find it here. You're more likely to find people who agree with u that elvis paid off the officials than the bizarre notion that they just sucked and didnt have an agenda.
You post a meme of a guy beating a dead horse, yet you continue to be belabor the same point ad nauseum. You are nothing if not predictable. Don't like this discussion? Stay off the thread.
It's your tired old conspiracy schtick once again. It dominates your discussions on this board.Actually the meme was referring to blaming the officials for losing. Laughing at the idea is still fresh. Dont like it? Hit ignore.
uhhh u do know he was responding to a meme dont u?
Anyway there einstein its called sarcasm. You boys going all huckleberry and gettin personal over getting called out was just as predictable as your posts after the game. But anyway Its been quite entertaining. So no, i am not serious. Well actually now i am. But i wasnt then. Maybe.
It's your tired old conspiracy schtick once again.
ahh hash tag blank , blank , blank soooo original and refreshing.#hejustdoesntgetit
2. I think you meant Hildabeast or Ancient Bernie as in how they think we can pay for all the giveaways.
Dude if you're looking for rational discussion on the officiating u wont find it here. You're more likely to find people who agree with u that elvis paid off the officials than the bizarre notion that they just sucked and didn't have an agenda.
ahh hash tag blank , blank , blank soooo original and refreshing.
congrats on your original thought! I think your cap lock got stuck on thats.Yea i should prob call people that disagree with me teenage girls. Now THATS original.
congrats on your original thought! I think your cap lock got stuck on thats.