Assange (WikiLeaks) has internet cut by "State Organization". Assange current whereabouts unknown.

[UNC71-00]

last night Wikileaks tweeted out 3 encryption codes and then went dark.

These codes are effectively digital fingerprints to prove that Wikileaks is in possession of material.

No one knows who cut the internet, but the prevailing rumor is that the US put pressure on Ecuador to expel Assange from its embassy, which would result in Assange being immediately extradited to Sweden to face rape charges or expedited to the US to be interrogated on sources.

Wikileaks has failsafes in place- should anything happen to Assange, all material gets dumped and it is pretty well known that Assange has held on to some particularly damning info in order to insure his own safety.

This election is surreal.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/10...internet-link-was-severed-by-state-party.html

 

[Blue2010]

Anyone with a brain knows there's some shady sh!t going down. Trump is absolutely correct when he says this system is corrupt and rigged...it absolutely is. There was some graphic up last nigh that showed the media coverage on the main national news: MSCNB, CBS, etc...they spent nearly 10 minutes each talking about these women's claims against Trump...and a whopping 30 seconds on the Wikileaks thing against Clinton...and NBC didn't mention it at all.

How is that not blatant bias? I just hope there are more intelligent people in this country than I'm personally giving us credit for...I really hope there are a ton of "closet Trump" supporters who these polls aren't picking up.

 

[prlyles]

Anyone with a brain knows there's some shady sh!t going down. Trump is absolutely correct when he says this system is corrupt and rigged...it absolutely is. There was some graphic up last nigh that showed the media coverage on the main national news: MSCNB, CBS, etc...they spent nearly 10 minutes each talking about these women's claims against Trump...and a whopping 30 seconds on the Wikileaks thing against Clinton...and NBC didn't mention it at all.

How is that not blatant bias? I just hope there are more intelligent people in this country than I'm personally giving us credit for...I really hope there are a ton of "closet Trump" supporters who these polls aren't picking up.

That is proof that the media is rigged but it is not proof that our election system is rigged.

 

[Blue2010]

That is proof that the media is rigged but it is not proof that our election system is rigged.

GMAFB....you're serious?

 

[prlyles]

GMAFB....you're serious?

The Federal, State, and local governments control the election process but they have no control over news media and rightly so.

 

[Blue2010]

The Federal, State, and local governments control the election process but they have no control over news media and rightly so.

I'm not saying that the actual election itself is rigged, although I do fully believe people try to find ways to cheat the system. At the end of the day, I trust that physical process works.

My belief that the election is rigged is with the mental manipulation of the public. By the media outlets forcing certain stories down our throats and ignoring others 100% influences the outcome here. There's really no debating that.

 

[BillyL]

The following battleground states have Republican Governors . .

Florida
Iowa
Michigan
Nevada
North Carolina
Ohio
Wisconsin

Florida's Gov. Scott had no interest in extending the voter registration deadline at all due to Hurricane Matthew. The Dems argued in court that the deadline should be extended because of the disruptions the state incurred. The judge first extended the deadline by one day, gave both sides the opportunity to continue their arguments on Wednesday of last week and afterwards the judge extended the deadline to a full week.

You can't say that Gov. Scott hasn't done his part in attempting to thwart more voters from signing up, and btw, the areas most affected by the disruptions were heavily republican.

Florida has historically had voter day problems, mostly its the number of polling places with lines extending around the block and peeps waiting in line for very long hours to vote.

If, any rigging is done in those states listed above then maybe those Governor and their SoS should have the blame laid at their feet.

With Trump calling the election rigged, it may be that a few more republicans start to believe him and will just throw their hands in the air and not go vote at all . .

Mike Pence is on record saying they will accept the results of the election, while his running mate, Tramp, maintains the claim it is rigged. I don't believe Pence and Trump are on the same page on several issues and this is one of them.


Anyway, listen up Republicans, your vote won't matter, just stay the f*** home because the election is obviously rigged for Clinton. Go play golf or just hang out at home . .

 

[prlyles]

I'm not saying that the actual election itself is rigged, although I do fully believe people try to find ways to cheat the system. At the end of the day, I trust that physical process works.

My belief that the election is rigged is with the mental manipulation of the public. By the media outlets forcing certain stories down our throats and ignoring others 100% influences the outcome here. There's really no debating that.

OK, now I agree with you on that.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Pulling back the curtain on the Clintons is playing with fire. I'd be fairly surprised if Assange is alive on election day.

 

[UNC71-00]

Trump's entire shtick about election being fixed is his way of making sure his voters don't get complacent.

If Trump weren't in control of the election right now, the other side wouldn't be in full panic mode.

 

[UNC71-00]

Pulling back the curtain on the Clinton's is playing with fire. I'd be fairly surprised if Assange is alive on election day.

He will be alive but in jail, with assurances that if he drops anything else, he will end up dead whereas if he keeps his mouth shut, a light prison sentence will do.

 

[gunslingerdick]

If shit wasn't rigged, it would be Bernie vs. Trump right now. Ask the good folks of Arizona.

 

[BillyL]

If Trump weren't in control of the election right now

Yeah . . he's killing it.

 

[BillyL]

How about a prediction on which states Donald Trump wins on election day . . . anybody ?

 

[tarheel0910]

With Trump calling the election rigged, it may be that a few more republicans start to believe him and will just throw their hands in the air and not go vote at all . .

Mike Pence is on record saying they will accept the results of the election, while his running mate, Tramp, maintains the claim it is rigged.

I think some people are taking what Trump says a little too seriously. Just like any other politician he over exaggerates things and promises things that he can't possibly deliver on. Hilary does the same thing. Shockingly, the media has chosen to focus on Trump's BS while mostly ignoring Hilary's BS.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

How about a prediction on which states Donald Trump wins on election day . . . anybody ?

This is the important thing to keep in mind throughout this thing. People always quote such and such is ahead in national polls by X percent. National polls don't mean crap - it's all about the state-by-state breakdown.

 

[prlyles]

I think some people are taking what Trump says a little too seriously. Just like any other politician he over exaggerates things and promises things that he can't possibly deliver on. Hilary does the same thing. Shockingly, the media has chosen to focus on Trump's BS while mostly ignoring Hilary's BS.

I agree but it is dangerous to the country. It is best for everyone to support whoever wins and hope they do a good job.

 

[BillyL]

This is the important thing to keep in mind throughout this thing. People always quote such and such is ahead in national polls by X percent. National polls don't mean crap - it's all about the state-by-state breakdown.

I agree, the national polls are a great barometer in the primaries and the early election process, at his stage, its the electoral vote that should be more closely examined.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

Like I said on the other thread, this election IS rigged but it was rigged long before there were two nominees. Hillary had this in the bag before anything was mentioned about her running for sure. We have to accept it since we are not REALLY going to do anything about it.

I don't know HOW to do it but anything short of removing every single person in any elected office from state governors to congress and up will not do it. You know exactly what I am talking about too. I feel it would be nearly impossible to remove all of these people and it would actually bring complete and total chaos but that is the ONLY way to get this BS in control and back on track. Take the banks and Wall Street out of the mess too. This is not a government FOR THE PEOPLE anymore and we all know it.

 

[UNC71-00]

How about a prediction on which states Donald Trump wins on election day . . . anybody ?

all 57

 

[BillyL]

Like I said on the other thread, this election IS rigged but it was rigged long before there were two nominees. Hillary had this in the bag before anything was mentioned about her running for sure. We have to accept it since we are not REALLY going to do anything about it.

I can assure you that if John Kasich had been nominated by the GOP as their candidate, this election wouldn't even be close. The Republicans would be running away with it and this ol' boy would be casting a ballot for him.

Clinton in no way had this in the bag, Chick . .

 

[UNC71-00]

I agree, the national polls are a great barometer in the primaries and the early election process, at his stage, its the electoral vote that should be more closely examined.

The problem is finding polls that don't over sample one particular demographic or aren't run by Super PACs

 

[UNC71-00]

I can assure you that if John Kasich had been nominated by the GOP as their candidate, this election wouldn't even be close. The Republicans would be running away with it and this ol' boy would be casting a ballot for him.

Clinton in no way had this in the bag, Chick . .

No way. They would be dragging him through the mud just like they do every single other candidate. In fact, Kasich would be getting killed because he would have lacked the stones to call HIllary out on being the worst person to ever run for office.

 

[Blue2010]

This is going off on a tangent (apologies), but it has always bugged me that California holds so much weight. It's cluttered with financial elites who won't be affected one single iota by the outcome of any election. Just because an actress can sleep her way to the top, become famous, and then spew her opinions all over Entertainment Weekly (and sadly, influence actual voters)... The fact that this state holds more weight than any others is atrocious IMO.

Anyway...carry on.

 

[BillyL]

all 57

Only if all the Republicans follow Trump's advice and vote on November 28th.

From the linked article :

During a campaign event on Tuesday night, Donald Trump urged his supporters to vote on November 28.

"Go and register. Make sure you get out and vote November 28," the GOP presidential nominee said in Panama City Beach, Florida.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-tells-rally-crowd-to-vote-on-november-28-2016-10

 

[gunslingerdick]

How about a prediction on which states Donald Trump wins on election day . . . anybody ?

Iowa
Maine
Nebraska
Georgia
Arizona
Alaska
Missouri
SC
Indiana
Miss
Texas
Utah
Louisiana
Montana
Tenn
N. Dakota
S. Dakota
Kansas
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
Idaho
WVa
Oklahoma
Wyoming

So, about half of them.

 

[UNC71-00]

Iowa
Maine
Nebraska
Georgia
Arizona
Alaska
Missouri
SC
Indiana
Miss
Texas
Utah
Louisiana
Montana
Tenn
N. Dakota
S. Dakota
Kansas
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
Idaho
WVa
Oklahoma
Wyoming

So, about half of them.

NC, Ohio, Fla, Penn, Michigan, Colorado, NH, possibly VA

 

[BillyL]

Iowa
Maine
Nebraska
Georgia
Arizona
Alaska
Missouri
SC
Indiana
Miss
Texas
Utah
Louisiana
Montana
Tenn
N. Dakota
S. Dakota
Kansas
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
Idaho
WVa
Oklahoma
Wyoming

So, about half of them.

Any others . . or just those . . ?

 

[gunslingerdick]

Any others . . or just those . . ?

That's half of them. And then there are few that could swing either way.

 

[BillyL]

NC, Ohio, Fla, Penn, Michigan, Colorado, NH, possibly VA

I'll bet he loses 5 of those, and he's basically already conceded VA . .

 

[gunslingerdick]

But to Blue's point, we'll have a bunch of super-elite, out-of-touch people in CA and a bunch of professional voters in urban America define another election. Good for us.

 

[BillyL]

No way. They would be dragging him through the mud just like they do every single other candidate. In fact, Kasich would be getting killed because he would have lacked the stones to call HIllary out on being the worst person to ever run for office.

Of the 17 original folks that ran for the GOP nomination, was there any that you deem had a better chance than Trump . . ?

Jus' curious . .

 

[gunslingerdick]

Of the 17 original folks that ran for the GOP nomination, was there any that you deem had a better chance than Trump . . ?

Jus' curious . .

Not answering for 71, but I would say "no". They either were no-names (Fiorina), pseudo republicans (Bush, Christie), weak (Kasich, Carson) or terribly unlikable (Cruz, Paul).

However, with that said, it's inarguable that all of them are more trustworthy and deserving of my respect than Hillary.

 

[UNC71-00]

Of the 17 original folks that ran for the GOP nomination, was there any that you deem had a better chance than Trump . . ?

Jus' curious . .

Not against Hillary.

If you want to fight the Clintons, you gotta be willing to crawl into the mud with them. Plus, a significant number of Trump's supporters would not have bothered to vote for another establishment Republican- look how poor the turnout was for Romney. It would have been worse for Jeb or Kasich or Cruz.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

I can assure you that if John Kasich had been nominated by the GOP as their candidate, this election wouldn't even be close. The Republicans would be running away with it and this ol' boy would be casting a ballot for him.

Clinton in no way had this in the bag, Chick . .

Maybe so Billy, but I really base this on past working relationships with a few politicians (I will not disclose who they are besides Ron Paul, because I am not in the mood to argue with the dummies about it today lol) but I learned things I wish I could unlearn, believe me. Read Hillary's supposed e-mails being released now, clearly, she had this wrapped up years ago.

I believe anyone other than Trump could have given the appearance of giving her a run for her money in this election but she was the winner long, long ago.

 

[strummingram]

This is delivering on every level in the entertainment department.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

This is delivering on every level in the entertainment department.

Why? because some of them still buy into the belief of an actual vote being counted??? LOL

 

[Blue2010]

I'll bet he loses 5 of those, and he's basically already conceded VA . .

Completely agree here. On some level, it's even causing panic for the NFL losing ratings. That, by itself, is impressive.

 

[strummingram]

Why? because some of them still buy into the belief of an actual vote being counted??? LOL

No, just in general. The whole thing is incredible entertainment. Every aspect is delivering non-stop entertainment.

As far as votes being counted; I've provided several You Tube videos that expose the ease and effectiveness of rigging elections. No one cares unless they are personally invested in the candidate or outcome. Politics is floating, sinking and swimming in corruption. Why anyone would ever believe that they would leave the vote-counting process to chance is beyond me.

What's amusing is how people decide to ally themselves to one of these two sides and then spend their lives railing at the other. I can understand having more things in common with certain ideologies than others. But, watching people slowly slip into obsession with "my side gets a pass and the other is always corrupt and unforgivable" is hilarious to me.

I am thankful to Trump for making this one more memorable than most. I hope it succeeds in fracturing the GOP for good. That will cause the Democrats to ultimately fracture because they need the GOP to exist in order to remain relevant. They are two polarities that require each other to remain intact.

 

[heelmanwilm]

They could find an email where clinton laughs at the bengazi victims and cnn would bury th story behind a womans claim that trump farted on her 20 yrs ago