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Didn't pay that much attention to them in the primaries, but it seemed a lot of them showed that he would win as voting day got closer. The media is who said he wouldn't win. That being said, couldn't I say the same thing about the daily tracking polls that you cited?

No. the USC poll in particular asks the same people each day.

Read the methodology.

In fact, the methodology differs for all polls. The WSJ one you cited had 18.7% more Democrats than Republicans. Why is anyone surprised they have Hilldawg in the lead?
 
No. the USC poll in particular asks the same people each day.

Read the methodology.

In fact, the methodology differs for all polls. The WSJ one you cited had 18.7% more Democrats than Republicans. Why is anyone surprised they have Hilldawg in the lead?
Asking the same people everyday isn't that great of a measure. How many times in the past 90 days would you have voted for Hilary instead of Trump? Same question for @UNC '92 and @gunslingerdick . @strummingram, @BillyL, @chick_bleeds_carolina_blue how many times in the past 90 days would you have voted for Trump instead of Hilary?
 
You realize that poll never shows Leave ahead until the last week, right?
Guess we are looking at different links, because those polls show it going back and forth. Scroll down to middle of page and take a look at May.
 
Northern Virginia is heavy democrat, along with the Richmond and Hampton Roads areas . . I've seen no support whatsoever for Trump here in NoVa.
If, Trump himself thought he had any chance here he would not have pulled his ads.

Heard on the radio today that Trump is only polling at 29% here in the Commonwealth . .
 
Northern Virginia is heavy democrat, along with the Richmond and Hampton Roads areas . . I've seen no support whatsoever for Trump here in NoVa.
If, Trump himself thought he had any chance here he would not have pulled his ads.

Heard on the radio today that Trump is only polling at 29% here in the Commonwealth . .
Most of my family lives in Southern VA, south of Richmond. They add-up to about 40 plus people, give or take in all. And, it's about 70% democrat, 30% republican. They all like Kaine, apparently.
 
I have plenty of faith in Nate Silver's averaging of polls.



Most of my family lives in Southern VA, south of Richmond. They add-up to about 40 plus people, give or take in all. And, it's about 70% democrat, 30% republican. They all like Kaine, apparently.

There are a few republicans here in the state that like Kaine as well.
 
And Bernie would probably be 20 points ahead of Trump by now.
You think so? I dunno. I just don't think a majority of Americans are ready to go to his level of how government should be run. I could be wrong.
 
Ok, I see where the difference is. You are talking about betting odds/chance of winning and I was talking about the head to head numbers.

No. In the FT link you posted showing poll data, Remain was ahead entirely through May.

I just added that other link this morning to show that bookies are seeing exactly the same pattern on this election as they saw with Brexit.
 
No. In the FT link you posted showing poll data, Remain was ahead entirely through May.

I just added that other link this morning to show that bookies are seeing exactly the same pattern on this election as they saw with Brexit.
Ok, the way I'm looking at it is that the highlighted number is the number in the lead. I searched for another one and found an aggregate one on WSJ. It looks like stay was either in the lead by a small amount or tied for most of May, but there was a switch around the beginning of June.
http://graphics.wsj.com/brexit-whos-voting-what/
 
Ok, the way I'm looking at it is that the highlighted number is the number in the lead. I searched for another one and found an aggregate one on WSJ. It looks like stay was either in the lead by a small amount or tied for most of May, but there was a switch around the beginning of June.
http://graphics.wsj.com/brexit-whos-voting-what/

Ok, so I should have said 2 weeks instead of 1 week.
 
Ok, I see where the difference is. You are talking about betting odds/chance of winning and I was talking about the head to head numbers.

I'm not getting in the middle of this pissing contest, but I'll just say I put a hell of a lot more faith into betting odds than I do some random poll. Polls can be manipulated and even outright fictionalized in order to show what the presenter wants it to show. When someone is willing to take millions of dollars in action at given odds, I trust that those odds are as accurate as possible.
 
I bet you do.

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