.... stock is going up and up. His mid-range jumper is deadly and makes him NBA ready NOW.
Brice Johnson's.....
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At one point last night I saw Brice eyeing a three. And somehow I just believe it would have gone in if he had taken the shot.
He had an opportunity on that weird, weird, weird possession where Notre Dame didn't foul and then fouled Marcus shooting a 3, but it was right in front of our bench and Roy might've tackled him and not let him have a piece of the net if he shot a 3 at that point in the game. Did I mention that possession was weird?
That was a weird possession. My wife wanted me to explain what was going on and I barely had a clue what ND was up to. Must have been indecisiveness from the bench.
15-25.... NO WAY!! Brice is now clearly a top 10 pick without a doubt. He has made himself into a very good player and he has also made himself a lot of $$$$$$$$ in the past few months.
Guys. Stop being homers.
Read every single draft site out there and no one has him near top 5. Zero point zero % chance he goes over Simmons, Ingram, Buddy, Dunn, the Turkish kid, Jalen Brown, etc. etc. etc.
They don't draft on how well you played this season unfortunately, it's all about potential and upside. There isn't a GM in the NBA that has Brice in their top 5. I'd bet there isn't one that even has him top 10.
It's just the way it is and those are facts.
Read every single draft site out there and no one has him near top 5. Zero point zero % chance he goes over Simmons, Ingram, Buddy, Dunn, the Turkish kid, Jalen Brown, etc. etc. etc.
They don't draft on how well you played this season unfortunately, it's all about potential and upside. There isn't a GM in the NBA that has Brice in their top 5. I'd bet there isn't one that even has him top 10.
It's just the way it is and those are facts.
I'll bet anyone that, if UNC wins the title, Brice will be a lottery pick (top 13, right?)
That is VERY different than a top 5 pick. And even then, it's a stretch to see him go 13th.
DE has him 33rd to PHO, Ford still doesn't have him in his first round, USA Today has him 26.
He's not a top 5 pick. Very good chance he could climb into the lottery. That's all I was saying. You mentioned top 10.
Yes, he won't go top 10 either. And "very good chance" he climbs into the lottery I will strongly disagree with as well. Sabonis crushed a projected top 8 pick and only moved up like 4 spots.
I'm not sure what mock draft boards people are looking at - but the reputable ones have him at the low end of the lottery (which is the first 14 picks by the way). I could see him going 10th if some GM was getting a little frisky - but no way does he go top 5 (while technically an opinion, that's about as close to fact as you can get while still being an opinion). Also no way he goes later than 20th (IMO).
23 double-doubles. Awesome!
And counting. Here's hoping for 2 more.
That beats Billy Cunningham, although we should remember that Billy's 22 double-Ds came in a 24-game season. Those of us lucky enough to see him play at the collegiate level remember how good he was.
And counting. Here's hoping for 2 more.
That beats Billy Cunningham, although we should remember that Billy's 22 double-Ds came in a 24-game season. Those of us lucky enough to see him play at the collegiate level remember how good he was.
Brice is a first rounder and I pity the GM's who pass on him from about pick 15 on.... He's a gamer who'll make a lot of money playing hoops.
I personally reckon he'll be in the league for 10yrs or so as a front court back-up. He'll score in bunches and stretch defenses (once he improves his range)
As good as this season has been I don't see Brice as an all-star type player. But not everyone has to be... Isn't it good enough to have a long and enjoyable pro career?
Sure beats what most of us do for a living!
I personally reckon he'll be in the league for 10yrs or so as a front court back-up. He'll score in bunches and stretch defenses (once he improves his range)
As good as this season has been I don't see Brice as an all-star type player. But not everyone has to be... Isn't it good enough to have a long and enjoyable pro career?
Sure beats what most of us do for a living!
I have mentioned in threads earlier in the year that i see him as a more athletic Robert Horry type 4 man
Would love to see the Celtics get him at 12 or 23 in the draft
He will go from 10-13.... if he doesn't play another game... Continue dropping numbers that he is giving now and he could go 8-10.. IMO he is still not getting any love in the press.. its all about the kid from Oklahoma.
Literally every one of them.
I'd be willing to bet on that. Not all NBA GM's are UNC fans unfortunately.
His name has to start floating around at pick 3. I would have to say pick 7-10, but I can see his freakish athleticism making him top 5 once his combine numbers come out.
Interesting. He and Horry have similar stats. The biggest difference is Brice has more points on less minutes played though.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/brice-johnson-1.html
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/robert-horry-1.html
by comparison, in college, sure, i guess you could go there...horry was a great pro and his shot from behind the arc in the league allows him to be considered the best six man ever.
i don't think brice will ever be the shooter horry was.
i don't think brice will ever be the shooter horry was.
indeed Horry was a great complimentary pro and his outside shooting mid / late career truly made him valuable
time will tell for Brice he has a nice motion to his shot - Horry did not really become "elite" from 3 until about 1998 ish with the lakers when he was a specialist but i recall a two year stretch in Houston where he was key and shot very well (95-96)
he was a career 34% 3pt shooter and a low 70% FT shooter
I don't recall Horry being an elite rebounding forward but i could be mistaken on this point
I could see Brice following such a trajectory if he chose to work on it when discussing 3pt shooting - of course one never truly knows but it is interesting to speculate
Agreed. Henson is a better rim protector but Brice does most everything else better. Brice is a very good shooter and rebounder. I could see him having a career like AC Green's. If he gets on with a team with some quality players he could be a starting PF that averages 12 & 8 in his peak years. I think he's a top 15 selection in this year's draft. Maybe top 10 if he shows off in the next 2 games and test well at the combine.
Made the top 10 cut for player of the year. I think he might have an outside shot at winning it if he can keep playing like he has in the tournament and UNC cuts down the nets.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-carolina-tar-heels-headline-wooden-finalists
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-carolina-tar-heels-headline-wooden-finalists
Brice has become a terrific college player but whether he can handle the pounding at the next level remains to be seen. For that reason I don't expect him to be a lottery pick.
The other question mark about Brice is his upside. He's improved so much this year it's tempting to think he could have a higher ceiling than seemed to be the case last year. That could work in his favor.
My guess is he goes in the early to mid 20s and, if he can handle the pounding or does have more upside, that will be a steal.
The other question mark about Brice is his upside. He's improved so much this year it's tempting to think he could have a higher ceiling than seemed to be the case last year. That could work in his favor.
My guess is he goes in the early to mid 20s and, if he can handle the pounding or does have more upside, that will be a steal.
SA already has their Duncan replacement and he's an all-star, LaMarcus Aldridge. I guess Aldridge and Brice could play together, but that doesn't seem like Pop's thing. Brice is too small to play the 5 and Aldridge operates at the 4 spot moving forward. I love Pop and the Spurs and wish every Carolina player could end up there. But I don't see that happening with Brice. Or, at least if drafted by the Spurs, they're seeing him as a back up only. And I think Brice has more potential than that.
I think he would fit well in Detroit along side Andre Drummond and with Van Gundy at the helm.
I disagree. The center position is becoming obsolete in the NBA. Golden State plays a significant portion of their games with 6-7 Draymond Green at the 5. Dennis Rodman was one of the best rebounders in NBA history and probably weighed less then Brice currently does in his playing days. Brice is a good shot blocker with 42-44 inch vertical leap and will put on another 25-30 lbs. In today's NBA, centers are stepping out and shooting 20 foot jumpers. The Spurs are the NBA version of ESPN. They are 1-2 steps ahead of competitors. Its just mindbogging how a team can be in the top 5 in the NBA every years for the past 20 years. They are always one step ahead of the all the other NBA teams and always picking at the end of the draft. My bet is that if they get a shot at Brice they will pick him without blinking an eye.
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I would guess that the Spurs would love a guy like Malcolm Brogdon. He is exactly what the Spurs are - smart, tough, great defensively and runs off screens very well. It wouldn't shock me if the Spurs go that direction while no one else in the league is looking at him. I don't see Brice fitting there.
I've said it before... I think the Celtics are his best/most likely fit. Obviously, I think he could fit in Golden State or San Antonio, but I don't see him dropping that far, and the Celtics have like 100 picks in the first 30.
Celtics taking him with the Mavericks pick that they got in the Rondo deal would be perfect. That should be the last pick in the lottery (Dallas will most likely be the best record not in the playoffs). Brad Stevens likes small ball - and they will have already taken their stud with the [probable] top 4-5 pick they'll have from Brooklyn (as a result of the Pierce/Garnett trade) - so they'll have the ability to take a flyer on a guy like Brice at #14. Of course that's unless they package the Dallas pick and/or their own pick later in the 1st round to try to move up a few spots from 4-5 to #2 to take Ingram (if Simmons goes first). I've heard they like Ingram as well, but if he goes #1, I don't think they're sold on Simmons.
They don't have to be. Unfortunately Brice has a reputation he is shaking off of being lazy. His back to the basket game is one of the best in this draft. He is a good rebounder. Good shot blocker. Can run the floor well for a big man. Showing a mid range game now. I think with pre draft workouts, he is a top 15 lock.
Apparently nbadraft.net wasn't one of them - they have him at #13. But upon further review, I see that there are some other ones that have him in the #20's.
While I do love to bet/gamble - I don't think I'd ever bet on NBA GM's to make a correct evaluation of talent. Half of them are morons, and the other half need to save their jobs so they take "safe picks" which are ironically the farthest thing from safe picks. You would think a safe pick would be a senior 1st team All-AA, but in actuality a safe pick for a GM is a raw talent with a sky-high ceiling - much easier to justify a pick that way.
As opposed to speculating where Brice will be drafted, I should say that looking back at this draft 10 years from now, I'd imagine that Brice will be a consensus top 20 player in it.
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