Cam Whitmore OV Set For August 22

[Steat]

I followed up with the guy here in the DMV that is close to the school last night. This is the same guy that told me a few weeks ago that if Whitmore takes an OV he would commit. He also said that he doubts Whitmore would make any more OV's after the UNC OV. He said the NIL possibilities for Cam are endless and the kid could make 1M next year with UNC.

I live 10 miles from his high school Archbishop Spalding here in Maryland.

Lets see if he is correct

This.......

 

[Tom79]

Cam has some serious hops.
Also, it seems he would accept and commit on or very soon after the visit.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Join the Family, Mr. Whitmore!

We'll make you rich and famous!

#Hubsiskillingit!

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

He said the NIL possibilities for Cam are endless and the kid could make 1M next year with UNC.

I really like Whitmore and hope we get him.

The NIL comment makes me sad. Not sad for Whitmore, obviously, but sad for the sport.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

I really like Whitmore and hope we get him.

The NIL comment makes me sad. Not sad for Whitmore, obviously, but sad for the sport.

Cam will be great ...

 

[Steat]

I really like Whitmore and hope we get him.

The NIL comment makes me sad. Not sad for Whitmore, obviously, but sad for the sport.

It's okay for head coaches to make millions with star athletes winning them championships, but it's not okay for a kid to make millions legally while leading while playing for these coaches? You can apply this concept to any profession. It's all about supply and demand. Really don't understand your comments.

 

[Tom79]

Beats the heck out of lack of control where in the past all Tar Heels had their likeness everywhere, now they can get paid for it.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

It's okay for head coaches to make millions with star athletes winning them championships, but it's not okay for a kid to make millions legally while leading while playing for these coaches? You can apply this concept to any profession. It's all about supply and demand. Really don't understand your comments.

I think coaches are overpaid, too.

There's a difference between understanding how the market works and liking how it works.

 

[Heels5150]

I really think this young man is going to be special. It does sound like he is ours to lose. I like his aggression and tenacity. He reminds me a little of McCants.

 

[Steat]

I think coaches are overpaid, too.

There's a difference between understanding how the market works and liking how it works.

You are exactly correct.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Beats the heck out of lack of control where in the past all Tar Heels had their likeness everywhere, now they can get paid for it.

I'm pleased that players are getting to share some of the money that used to just go to schools, coaches, handlers, and so on. I just don't like the Wild West approach and the fact (I think it's a fact) that little if any of the money is going to less flashy players in big sports or players in lesser sports.

I was hoping for some resolution that was more equitable.

I'd like some percentage of the "tips" be shared among all the waiters and waitresses and even the kitchen staff and janitors. Maybe not a big percentage, but some.

 

[dtodd4475]

I'm pleased that players are getting to share some of the money that used to just go to schools, coaches, handlers, and so on. I just don't like the Wild West approach and the fact (I think it's a fact) that little if any of the money is going to less flashy players in big sports or players in lesser sports.

I was hoping for some resolution that was more equitable.

I'd like some percentage of the "tips" be shared among all the waiters and waitresses and even the kitchen staff and janitors. Maybe not a big percentage, but some.

The NIL money is given to the people who will garner the most eyes. If people tune in or follow they are in demand.

The highest paid athlete is widely thought to be a gymnast, 2 decent female Fresno State basketball players, etc. From social media followings.

Follow the sport ( tons of high school basketball and football sites) or the athlete and their marketing value goes up. Just like any other form of entertainment. Not many eyes on top wrestlers or volleyball players before or after they go D1.

Look at all the eyes on these football & basketball recruitments, they have built in value and recognition as high schoolers, people (us) tune in to what they are doing.

The NFL, NBA, MLB get more eyes then the WNBA, professional LaCrosse leagues, NHL, etc. So, they have more marketing opportunities.

 

[TheGLOV]

I think coaches are overpaid, too.

There's a difference between understanding how the market works and liking how it works.

Poster's like me & you are underpaid!

Actually, we don't get the GREEN at all for posting here!

 

[UNC-75]

That gives me a great idea. I'm going after NIL money since I post on college boards occasionally. I think my likeness for being a member here and posting should bring in as much as 1/2 million if all you posters do your job and contribute to my Go Fund Me NIL UNC-75 site. Remember, you can give repeatedly and often. In fact it is encouraged. Make me famous. (My avatar is likely going to bring in a couple of hundred thousands alone!)

 

[DSouthr]

I really like Whitmore and hope we get him.

The NIL comment makes me sad. Not sad for Whitmore, obviously, but sad for the sport.

I mentioned in a post couple days ago that I saw Nichel cutting his list (with us in his final 5 and a strange looking final 5 at that) Nichel was sending out that in a manner that could be to see what Whitmore would do, that I suspected we see a move from Whitmore in the following few days. Well, I see today that Whitmore has now set his official visit to us in 2-3 weeks from now and Nichel now talking a commit date in early sept or oct, anyway, clarity on his time line.

That said, the quick reaction from Whitmore seems to tell me to expect that if we are going to get him that he announces with in 2 weeks of his official for us and will not be even mildly surprised if he does it on his visit or within 2-3 days following it. I think it will be quick after the visit because Nichel could see that visit happen and realize, if you want UNC you better take the gig now or Whitmore will and Whitmore will be thinking in those terms if UNC is really where he wants to be.

Domino's are falling...

 

[DSouthr]

That gives me a great idea. I'm going after NIL money since I post on college boards occasionally. I think my likeness for being a member here and posting should bring in as much as 1/2 million if all you posters do your job and contribute to my Go Fund Me NIL UNC-75 site. Remember, you can give repeatedly and often. In fact it is encouraged. Make me famous. (My avatar is likely going to bring in a couple of hundred thousands alone!)

My friend, cause I appreciate you so much, tell you what I will do for you! I will reduce my standard agent fee from 15% all the way down to 10%. Now (and this is the best part) I will ONLY require $25,000 up front to start working for YOU! Yeah, I know, you ask why give me such an amazing deal, can I help it if I have such a giving heart that I am willing to go to work EXCLUSIVELY for such a tiny drop in the bucket initial fee, especially for those folk I like as much No, I am just cursed like that.

So let me know when you want to settle that tiny start up fee, I only ask not to be paid in rolls of coins, so certified check will be fine. Lets get your money machine cranked up and see if we can blow past that half million you were thinking!

 

[dtodd4475]

From what I've been reading it looks like we are in great position with Whitmore. He seems to be our priority as well. Would love to see him commit on his OV.

Nichel's recent comments were heavy on being the "feature" guy as a scoring wing, as he ran down his final 5 choices. I don't see him being a featured guy at UNC. Especially if Cam comes, he would be 2nd fiddle in his own class at wing. Cam seems to be the priority, and UNC seems to be his as well. Nichels seems destined for Iowa or VA. Tech.

 

[UNC-75]

My friend, cause I appreciate you so much, tell you what I will do for you! I will reduce my standard agent fee from 15% all the way down to 10%. Now (and this is the best part) I will ONLY require $25,000 up front to start working for YOU! Yeah, I know, you ask why give me such an amazing deal, can I help it if I have such a giving heart that I am willing to go to work EXCLUSIVELY for such a tiny drop in the bucket initial fee, especially for those folk I like as much No, I am just cursed like that.

So let me know when you want to settle that tiny start up fee, I only ask not to be paid in rolls of coins, so certified check will be fine. Lets get your money machine cranked up and see if we can blow past that half million you were thinking!

I’ll have my peeps speak to your peeps and let’s get it done. You’ll have to accept Bitcoin I’m afraid, no certified checks. I don’t want a paper trail in case I overstep the bounds. Which reminds me to mention I’m accepting cabins, villas, luxury homes, or exotic automobiles as well as money. Asking nothing more than what Zion got before the rules opened up.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

My Uncle is Nigerian Prince. He needs to move 20 million dollars out of the country. Send me your bank account numbers and I will deposit it in your account. I will move all of it out except the 1 million dollar holding fee!

Whitmore is a game changing recruit and I am very impressed by his combination of alpha dogness; advanced skill; extreme athleticism; high motor and work ethic; and coachability! Boy would I love to see him in Tar Heel Blue!

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

My friend, cause I appreciate you so much, tell you what I will do for you! I will reduce my standard agent fee from 15% all the way down to 10%. Now (and this is the best part) I will ONLY require $25,000 up front to start working for YOU! Yeah, I know, you ask why give me such an amazing deal, can I help it if I have such a giving heart that I am willing to go to work EXCLUSIVELY for such a tiny drop in the bucket initial fee, especially for those folk I like as much No, I am just cursed like that.

So let me know when you want to settle that tiny start up fee, I only ask not to be paid in rolls of coins, so certified check will be fine. Lets get your money machine cranked up and see if we can blow past that half million you were thinking!

Kidding aside, you raise several questions.

Do these kids have agents to get them NIL money?

If you really were a NIL agent, how would you approach your job? How would you get the money for your client?

 

[dtodd4475]

Kidding aside, you raise several questions.

Do these kids have agents to get them NIL money?

If you really were a NIL agent, how would you approach your job? How would you get the money for your client?

The athletes have to follow each states NIL laws. The athletes register. If they choose a professional firm to coordinate the opportunities, travel, marketing, etc.

They sign with a firm and do business, much like everyone else.

 

[TheGLOV]

I’ll have my peeps speak to your peeps and let’s get it done. You’ll have to accept Bitcoin I’m afraid, no certified checks. I don’t want a paper trail in case I overstep the bounds. Which reminds me to mention I’m accepting cabins, villas, luxury homes, or exotic automobiles as well as money. Asking nothing more than what Zion got before the rules opened up.

Hey now! Just wait a cotton-pickin' minute here!!

It was my idea so you just wait your turn.

"D" let's talk sir.

 

[Steat]

I'm pleased that players are getting to share some of the money that used to just go to schools, coaches, handlers, and so on. I just don't like the Wild West approach and the fact (I think it's a fact) that little if any of the money is going to less flashy players in big sports or players in lesser sports.

I was hoping for some resolution that was more equitable.

I'd like some percentage of the "tips" be shared among all the waiters and waitresses and even the kitchen staff and janitors. Maybe not a big percentage, but some.

That's happening. You just have do some research. UNC just inked a deal where all their student-athletes get a piece of the pie. There are may more out there. My financial advisory firm has developed a list of 77 deals out there and we are adding 5-10 each day.

UNC Becomes The First School To Organize Group Endorsement Deals For Its Players​

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/21/1018887697/unc-group-licensing-college-sports-players


There are approximately 540,000 student-athletes currently in US colleges and universities, that's approximately 135,000 turnover every year. Less than 1% of these student-athletes turn professional for various reasons.

I'm a financial advisor in my day job and many advisors right now are licking their chops at the opportunity to represent some of these athletes. Most that I know, including me are not wasting time trying to ink the players with the big NIL deals. There are just too many people you have to get through to get access to these student-athletes, including big time sports agents.

Bottom line, that leaves the 99% of the student-athletes that have an opportunity to make NIL money in their college years that will never turn professional. Our initial research estimate that the vast majority of these student-athletes will make less than 10K in NIL a year. On the other hand, many will be looking for financial advisors to help them manage their money.

The objective of many advisors is to get these young student-athletes as clients when they are young and it will pay off in the future when these kids graduate and make more money down the road. So, you sign them up with annual financial plan and start out with a ROTH IRA and go from there. That's a simple strategy for many student-athletes. I'm working with several colleges in the DMV.

There are several organizations out there that cater to student-athletes for NIL deals. Here is one that is representing 40K student-athletes.

The NIL Deals Platform for Athletes, Fans, & Brands - Opendorse

The best NIL deal marketplace for athletes to build and monetize their name, image, and likeness value. Support your favorite collegiate athlete.

opendorse.com

 

[gunslingerdick]

Money changes people, more often than not, for the worse. Especially people that have never had any. The NIL is the right move legally but will have a negative overall impact on society in general.

 

[UNC-75]

TPFKAPFS:​

Your uncle has written to me a number of times. Give him a shout out for me.​

 

[DSouthr]

I’ll have my peeps speak to your peeps and let’s get it done. You’ll have to accept Bitcoin I’m afraid, no certified checks. I don’t want a paper trail in case I overstep the bounds. Which reminds me to mention I’m accepting cabins, villas, luxury homes, or exotic automobiles as well as money. Asking nothing more than what Zion got before the rules opened up.

Hey, no need for my peeps to talk to your peeps, all they do is drain off our profits, we talk, YOU ME, we handle this that way we do not profit those that do what they do out of shear greed. For example, Bit coin, OK, I can work with you on that, you make that deposit on bit coin and I get you Zion like love!

Geez, considering this is 75 I am dealing with, OK, you got me, I will accept your $25K bit coin offer, I assume you are then open to bit coin compensation which is GREAT because I am actually likely to be able to get you much more if you are actually open to bit coin transactions. Lets get this all on GO, ready to be a RICH man, you drop that tiny, tiny bit near insulting amount of $25K in Bit coin and you are on the way to being a WEALTHY man!

Say it with me, RICH, Filthy stinkin, RICH! Go ahead, price that airplane, you got baby mommas and need them handled, I got you. You just show me you serious with that $25k in bit coin and all you need do is go and shop for everything you dreamed of and I will show you how to make that YOUR reality. How much can you make from this deal, How Big are your DREAMS?

You want it all now, no problem, do you believe in your self $25K bit coin worth< i believe in you so much more that I am willing to take such a tiny and risky sum to get started as $25k in bit coin. That is how much I BELIEVE IN YOU that I am willing to take such an amount that others may consider insulting and dedicate myself to making YOU a wealthy man! WE have a deal, RIGHT, I mean, we can use Bob da glov as our virtual witness, he will do that for me for FREE (or somewhere close to free ;-)!

 

[UNC-75]

Money changes people, more often than not, for the worse. Especially people that have never had any. The NIL is the right move legally but will have a negative overall impact on society in general.

Hey, no need for my peeps to talk to your peeps, all they do is drain off our profits, we talk, YOU ME, we handle this that way we do not profit those that do what they do out of shear greed. For example, Bit coin, OK, I can work with you on that, you make that deposit on bit coin and I get you Zion like love!

Geez, considering this is 75 I am dealing with, OK, you got me, I will accept your $25K bit coin offer, I assume you are then open to bit coin compensation which is GREAT because I am actually likely to be able to get you much more if you are actually open to bit coin transactions. Lets get this all on GO, ready to be a RICH man, you drop that tiny, tiny bit near insulting amount of $25K in Bit coin and you are on the way to being a WEALTHY man!

Say it with me, RICH, Filthy stinkin, RICH! Go ahead, price that airplane, you got baby mommas and need them handled, I got you. You just show me you serious with that $25k in bit coin and all you need do is go and shop for everything you dreamed of and I will show you how to make that YOUR reality. How much can you make from this deal, How Big are your DREAMS?

You want it all now, no problem, do you believe in your self $25K bit coin worth< i believe in you so much more that I am willing to take such a tiny and risky sum to get started as $25k in bit coin. That is how much I BELIEVE IN YOU that I am willing to take such an amount that others may consider insulting and dedicate myself to making YOU a wealthy man! WE have a deal, RIGHT, I mean, we can use Bob da glov as our virtual witness, he will do that for me for FREE (or somewhere close to free ;-)!

Before I agree to your terms, Mark Cuban and Mr. Wonderful are on the line with another offer. I’ll have to hear them out.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

That's happening. You just have do some research. UNC just inked a deal where all their student-athletes get a piece of the pie. There are may more out there. My financial advisory firm has developed a list of 77 deals out there and we are adding 5-10 each day.

UNC Becomes The First School To Organize Group Endorsement Deals For Its Players​

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/21/1018887697/unc-group-licensing-college-sports-players


There are approximately 540,000 student-athletes currently in US colleges and universities, that's approximately 135,000 turnover every year. Less than 1% of these student-athletes turn professional for various reasons.

I'm a financial advisor in my day job and many advisors right now are licking their chops at the opportunity to represent some of these athletes. Most that I know, including me are not wasting time trying to ink the players with the big NIL deals. There are just too many people you have to get through to get access to these student-athletes, including big time sports agents.

Bottom line, that leaves the 99% of the student-athletes that have an opportunity to make NIL money in their college years that will never turn professional. Our initial research estimate that the vast majority of these student-athletes will make less than 10K in NIL a year. On the other hand, many will be looking for financial advisors to help them manage their money.

The objective of many advisors is to get these young student-athletes as clients when they are young and it will pay off in the future when these kids graduate and make more money down the road. So, you sign them up with annual financial plan and start out with a ROTH IRA and go from there. That's a simple strategy for many student-athletes. I'm working with several colleges in the DMV.

There are several organizations out there that cater to student-athletes for NIL deals. Here is one that is representing 40K student-athletes.

The NIL Deals Platform for Athletes, Fans, & Brands - Opendorse

The best NIL deal marketplace for athletes to build and monetize their name, image, and likeness value. Support your favorite collegiate athlete.

opendorse.com

Very interesting. Thanks.

 

[UNC-75]

Great insight above. Thanks for sharing from an investment group point of view. Seems like Pandora’s box opening up many potential loopholes and opportunities. Just like everything in life as opportunities open for the students opportunities for fraudsters to jump in will abound. This will be very difficult to police as there will be plenty of deals I presume that will be in grey areas. This world changed quickly.

 

[dtodd4475]

With the NBA at all time highs in popularity and profits ( even though if you just read this board you would think it is struggling), the monetary value of elite talent will continue to skyrocket as well.

The NBA salary cap skyrocketed once again from all the increased profits this year, it truly is a global game now. Steph Curry and his 4 year 215 million deal (54 million a year) is more per year then a entire teams salary cap was in 2009.

 

[jeans1515]

It's okay for head coaches to make millions with star athletes winning them championships, but it's not okay for a kid to make millions legally while leading while playing for these coaches? You can apply this concept to any profession. It's all about supply and demand. Really don't understand your comments.

So how many kids are managing 85 players, dozens of coaches and medical staffs, have media commitments spend their off season recruiting and only keep their job if they win games..unlike players who can free ride with no real impact..200k of uselessness. And when they do win produce millions of dollars for the program.


Roy was here for 17 years.

Should the guys in year 3 get credit for the championship in 2017. Since the players are equally important or was it Roy bringing value back to the program.

 

[tarheel0910]

So how many kids are managing 85 players, dozens of coaches and medical staffs, have media commitments spend their off season recruiting and only keep their job if they win games..unlike players who can free ride with no real impact..200k of uselessness. And when they do win produce millions of dollars for the program.


Roy was here for 17 years.

Should the guys in year 3 get credit for the championship in 2017. Since the players are equally important or was it Roy bringing value back to the program.

Does Roy win games without the players? Does UNC use his NIL without his permission? Does he get to promote himself and make money while doing it?

ETA: Players actually do have media commitments.

 

[Steat]

Does Roy win games without the players? Does UNC use his NIL without his permission? Does he get to promote himself and make money while doing it?

ETA: Players actually do have media commitments.

Good post. Bottom line, if legal no one should be restricted on the amount of money they can make. Many "good" college players that do not project as NBA top draft picks will stick around for 4 years. Everyone wins here.

 

[HeelFan58]

From what I've been reading it looks like we are in great position with Whitmore. He seems to be our priority as well. Would love to see him commit on his OV.

Nichel's recent comments were heavy on being the "feature" guy as a scoring wing, as he ran down his final 5 choices. I don't see him being a featured guy at UNC. Especially if Cam comes, he would be 2nd fiddle in his own class at wing. Cam seems to be the priority, and UNC seems to be his as well. Nichels seems destined for Iowa or VA. Tech.

Who the heck is Nichel?

 

[gunslingerdick]

Everyone wins here.

Except the fans who now watch an inferior product of hired mercenaries rather than kids that played for the unbridled joy of representing the school you love. I get it. That’s no reason to not allow them to make money. But I don’t have to like it.

 

[dtodd4475]

Who the heck is Nichel?

I see you are one of the few who cannot figure out a word that has a letter out of place. I know it could be tough for some, I apologize for causing you such frustration.

There is a UNC recruit whose name is very similar to the misspelled one that has confused you, look up a list, and try to figure out who he is, it seems like you can have hours of fun trying. Good luck 👍

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Boy if I had a Nichel for everytime a Tar Heel name got misspelled.....

 

[TheGLOV]

Boy if I had a Nichel for everytime a Tar Heel name got misspelled.....

I hear ya PTKFaFs

 

[Steat]

Except the fans who now watch an inferior product of hired mercenaries rather than kids that played for the unbridled joy of representing the school you love. I get it. That’s no reason to not allow them to make money. But I don’t have to like it.

What do you mean by "inferior product"?

Do you think coaches would put up with players that are not giving 100%? On paper, the Heels will have a pretty decent team this year. Dawson Garcia would have not signed with UNC if NIL was around. That's a pretty known fact around UNC.

NIL opportunities will keep borderline NBA prospects in college longer. Unless I'm missing something, NIL opportunities will improve the play in college because the better the player performs the more money he makes.

Incentives improve performance.

 

[tarheel0910]

Good post. Bottom line, if legal no one should be restricted on the amount of money they can make. Many "good" college players that do not project as NBA top draft picks will stick around for 4 years. Everyone wins here.

Yeah, people are focusing on the few players that are bringing in all this money. That's not really who this helps out. This helps out Joel Berry, Luke Maye, etc. Players who will never make millions of dollars playing basketball, but could make plenty of money while they are here. Even players like Platek and Leaky (*dunks under table*) can make some pocket money so they can eat.