Coach Williams has a message for those who question his time out strategy
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Ya reckin' he's been asked about it once or twice?
"Time-a quit askin me at got-dern question!"
I imagine his response would be similar if asked about his lineup decisions.
Complete the statement: to keep doing the same thing over and over, getting the same result, but expecting a different result is the definition of: ????
"We practice every day to be able to play without me calling 'em over to say I love you and sing kumbaya ..."
Love me some Roy.
Love me some Roy.
that's hilarious - but doesn't ease my frustration with that part of his coaching style. I accept it but don't like it
He can be as crotchety as they come when someone questions his decisions. I don't understand that defensive attitude. I work in public service and get questioned regularly by colleagues and customers. Wonder how long I'd keep my job if I told them I'd do my job whenever the hell I feel like it?
He's an arrogant pain the ass sometimes ...and a FANTASTIC, winning Coach all the time. Wouldn't trade him for anyone!
Neither would I. He is the right coach for UNC and I want him to stay several more years but my gosh he can be arrogant and thin skinned.
Did you watch the interview (as opposed to reading excerpts)? He didn't come off as crotchety to me at all. He made his point and explained why he does what he does. I mean he rambled on about it a bit but he wasn't being confrontational, and he told the reporter up front that it's not an unfair question.
with all due respect, if you tell me that you're gonna "do whatever the hell i want" that can definitely be defined as crotchety or whatever you wanna call it.
not humble, not passive, not with delight. and yes, i listened to the entire interview.
Because most of the time those who ask the question have no clue.and as long as Roy keeps winning,he can coach as he pleases.Big difference between your situation and Roys.
That's fine. I can understand where Coach is coming from. Like I said, he wasn't being confrontational despite being asked the same nitpicking questions for 29 years. He said he's been doing it that way forever, gave some reasons and examples why, and basically said that's his philosophy and he ain't changing it now. And a media conference like that is quite a bit different than you or me backtalking a boss or a customer in a one-on-one situation.
I don't have any problem with Roy's response there. I'd feel the same way if I were in his shoes and I probably wouldn't have nearly as much grace or diplomacy about it.
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I love it. Roy and I seem to have a few things in common. The biggest thing is that neither he nor I like being questioned.
Like Bleed said, it might not be the way I'd do it. But I love the fact that Roy is a man of conviction and I love that he doesn't give a f*** what anyone else thinks.
Like Bleed said, it might not be the way I'd do it. But I love the fact that Roy is a man of conviction and I love that he doesn't give a f*** what anyone else thinks.
Hey, Roy, a timeout or two might have helped us avoid that epic collapse against dook, just sayin...
I question the late season substitution patterns a lot more than banking time outs.
At least he is aware of it, I thought for awhile he just had no clue.. Now I feel much better about it
4 out of 5 times what Roy does as a coach results in a win. This is over a 1000 + game sample size too. I would stop beating the dead horse and asking him. Media , fans , or otherwise.
Agreed. I could live with the timeouts. Maybe even the lineups. The part about this that drives me most crazy, is the stuff you and Jung said earlier today....that's hilarious - but doesn't ease my frustration with that part of his coaching style. I accept it but don't like it
how Roy refuses to change regarding getting killed from the (short) 3-point line, and refusal to change how he defends it, especially against Dook. If everyone else can see it, why can't he? (That - and the fact that it's not a level playing field between Rat and Roy in getting in official's ears / heads)
BH I'm not stalking ya I promise, but do you remember a Jerry Robinson or a Wanda Harvey from Owen? My mom and dad.
There were two time outs during Dooks "run" that didnt help sh**. I guess if Roy called those two, we would have won? Delusional.
And what do you suppose he would've told them,foul the dook shooters before they shot the 3's? When Berry went out with 4 fouls the whole complexion of the game changed....Nothing Roy would've told them that they didn't already know.
I wonder how the players feel when Roy doesn't call a time-out when the other team is on a run? My guess is that they feel they should be able to get out of the hole they're in by themselves as well, and probably don't want the coach to have to come to their rescue.
Well, based on how *those* type of games turn out, the players must think "crap, here we go again" because we generally lose....
My worst timeout memory is and will forever will be the KU debacle in the 2008 FF ... sorry, just threw up in my mouth a bit.
I was at the beach for that game. Don't even remember what beach because I've nearly repressed it from my memory.
I just remember I was in a rental house, so I couldn't throw or punch anything like I would've in my own house. Thus, I had no outlet for my building rage in that first half. By the halftime whistle, the red mist had come down over my eyes so bad that I was near delirious. At halftime, I walked down to the beach and stood there for what I hoped was a long time. I came back in the house (because I'm a glutton for punishment) and the second half hadn't even started yet!!
So I was forced to watch the inevitable comeback-that-will-ultimately-fall-short comeback attempt
It was unfortunate the way Berry picked up those fouls. But I definitely would have called few timeouts and made some adjustments.
This isn't Roy's style, but one of the reasons we lose to dook when we shouldn't is that Roy doesn't guard the goddamn three. We collapse, they kick out, Allen, Kennard, or Tatum scores. And still Roy won't do anything about it.
I know I come off as sounding like I know better than a hall of fame coach, but I am f**king sick and tired of losing to them a majority of the time on a yearly basis, and most of the time it's on Roy. How many times have we had a second half lead over them, even in years where they were more talented, and then we blow it? I can think of 5-6 instances off the top of my head.
It is completely and utterly unacceptable.
I'm glad Roy is our coach.
In saying that, Roy is going to do what Roy is going to do. The argument that he wins 80% of his games so leave him alone is a fair one but at a school like Carolina, I'd argue that on talent differential alone in most years we should win 70-75% of our games. Roy is a great motivator and leader, but game manager with using timeouts, sub patterns and making in game adjustments, not so much. It is what it is. I do think his ways have cost us more close/important games than he has won us in the last 10 years.
In saying that, Roy is going to do what Roy is going to do. The argument that he wins 80% of his games so leave him alone is a fair one but at a school like Carolina, I'd argue that on talent differential alone in most years we should win 70-75% of our games. Roy is a great motivator and leader, but game manager with using timeouts, sub patterns and making in game adjustments, not so much. It is what it is. I do think his ways have cost us more close/important games than he has won us in the last 10 years.
What does he mean by he's going to "call it when he wants to call it"? Half the time he acts like he doesn't know they exist.
again, empty...you disappoint me with every poast...literally, every single one...and you obviously didn't see his interview...educate yourself if you wanna contribute.
First off, I love Roy and will always appreciate what he's brought to UNC
That being said, he drives me nuts in his stubbornness to avoid calling TO's. his ridiculous defense that they should know what to do is bizarre. If that's the case why even sit on the sidelines? Also, next to Dean I've never been witness to a better coach devising plays out of the TO than Roy. Why he won't take advantage of that talent is beyond me
That being said, he drives me nuts in his stubbornness to avoid calling TO's. his ridiculous defense that they should know what to do is bizarre. If that's the case why even sit on the sidelines? Also, next to Dean I've never been witness to a better coach devising plays out of the TO than Roy. Why he won't take advantage of that talent is beyond me
I turned the TV off.I was at the beach for that game. Don't even remember what beach because I've nearly repressed it from my memory.
I just remember I was in a rental house, so I couldn't throw or punch anything like I would've in my own house. Thus, I had no outlet for my building rage in that first half. By the halftime whistle, the red mist had come down over my eyes so bad that I was near delirious. At halftime, I walked down to the beach and stood there for what I hoped was a long time. I came back in the house (because I'm a glutton for punishment) and the second half hadn't even started yet!!
So I was forced to watch the inevitable comeback-that-will-ultimately-fall-short comeback attempt
I would just hazard a guess that UNC is probably favored 80% of the time or more in all games. I would love to see what the win vs. favored breakdown is against dook since Roy has been the HC. I don't have the time to and I'm just a little too lazy to take that on.
You have zero knowledge of the game of basketball. None, zip, zilch. I obviously didnt see his interview, when the man himself stated IN the interview, that there were two timeouts during Dukes run, THAT DIDNT HELP. Wtf do you contribute? 1 line condescending posts, acting like you are better then everyone? When you are clearly an unkowlegable clown.
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Heelfan, you are probably right. I was typing 80% but then that matched up with his winning percentage as stated on here and thought it would look like I wasn't giving him any credit for our success.
Generally speaking, has anybody ever said or heard anybody say, we lost that game by calling a timeout? I don't think so. I think that's the point when you really break down the angst with Roy and his use of timeouts. I think we can all definitely say that we've let some games get away that a timeout may have helped at some point. I just don't seen an argument there.
Generally speaking, has anybody ever said or heard anybody say, we lost that game by calling a timeout? I don't think so. I think that's the point when you really break down the angst with Roy and his use of timeouts. I think we can all definitely say that we've let some games get away that a timeout may have helped at some point. I just don't seen an argument there.
It doesn't matter how long someone has done something.....if a pattern is there where something doesn't work....don't keep doing it. I love Roy as our coach, but he is hard headed in some areas. He wins a ton of games.....but doesn't win a lot of games when the opposing team goes on 20-4 runs. We aren't talking about everything he does being bad.....we are talking about something that leads to him probably winning 20% of the games he coaches in that the other team has those types of runs. He could be THAT much better if he adjusted his "game" like most people do in other aspects of life.
Colby White, PG or shooting guard, that is the question?
I would suggest both he and Jalek are more combo guards than true PGs, I felt the same about Marcus and in truth look at what Joel does, case can be made he to is more a shooter than distributor. Have we been able to win with Marcus at the point or Joel at the point, seems to me we have.
I would prefer we look at PGs from the 2019 class, take a top 3 PG if we can get one from 2018 but I don't see that in the cards. I do think that between Jalek (if he is still there as a soph and I do think he will be), Colby, 7th, and Platek we can cover the PG soph well so that even if we miss a 2019 PG to would not be time to panic, even if Jalek or Colby left early after the 2018 season. And that all assumes that leaky can not play the point at his attained height when he comes in. If he can then all doubt of the position is removed.
I want a wing and a big man from 2018 and a wing & a couple big men in 2019.
I would suggest both he and Jalek are more combo guards than true PGs, I felt the same about Marcus and in truth look at what Joel does, case can be made he to is more a shooter than distributor. Have we been able to win with Marcus at the point or Joel at the point, seems to me we have.
I would prefer we look at PGs from the 2019 class, take a top 3 PG if we can get one from 2018 but I don't see that in the cards. I do think that between Jalek (if he is still there as a soph and I do think he will be), Colby, 7th, and Platek we can cover the PG soph well so that even if we miss a 2019 PG to would not be time to panic, even if Jalek or Colby left early after the 2018 season. And that all assumes that leaky can not play the point at his attained height when he comes in. If he can then all doubt of the position is removed.
I want a wing and a big man from 2018 and a wing & a couple big men in 2019.
^^^ not bad...still too transparent though.
as far as condescending, you have me confused with others on this particular board...be careful what you accuse someone of, you could be outing yourself.
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