Coaching

[What Would Jesus Do?]

NO, NO, NO. Roy would have a fit, and where would your out-of-conference games come from? It would turn college basketball into a regional sport.

In theory I agree with your sentiment. It was better and more intense in the good ol' days when conferences were compact (and actually made sense) and you could play everyone twice. Unfortunately that is no longer the case, thanks to football (and pure greed) dominating conference expansion .

Let teams play more games in the year.

At the very least, play the teams in your own "division" twice each year.

We play 14 teams. 18 games. So that's 4 teams we play twice. Two the same, 2 that rotate.

But if we had divisions, we could play the other 6 teams in our division twice. Total of 20 games.

That's not as good as playing everybody twice, but it would be better. And only adds 2 games.

Aren't we going to more games in-conference in a couple of years? I'm vague on that. Something to do with the ACC Network?

 

[gauchoheel]

What do people think about adding 4 minutes to each half? I doubt it'd ever happen, but I'd be interested in seeing it. No, it's not because it makes the game more like the NBA. I just love watching basketball, so more is better in my opinion. It also makes your bench more important, because at 48 minutes you probably can't play your starters 90+% of the minutes. I don't really see much downside, other than old records would be easier to break.

 

[gauchoheel]

Let teams play more games in the year.

At the very least, play the teams in your own "division" twice each year.

We play 14 teams. 18 games. So that's 4 teams we play twice. Two the same, 2 that rotate.

But if we had divisions, we could play the other 6 teams in our division twice. Total of 20 games.

That's not as good as playing everybody twice, but it would be better. And only adds 2 games.

Aren't we going to more games in-conference in a couple of years? I'm vague on that. Something to do with the ACC Network?

We're playing 20 conference games starting in 2019-2020. I haven't heard any details about protected games, so I'm assuming it's just two added home-and-homes with rotating ACC teams each year.

I'd also be down for a 35 game regular season.

 

[gary-7]

Let teams play more games in the year.

At the very least, play the teams in your own "division" twice each year.

We play 14 teams. 18 games. So that's 4 teams we play twice. Two the same, 2 that rotate.

But if we had divisions, we could play the other 6 teams in our division twice. Total of 20 games.

That's not as good as playing everybody twice, but it would be better. And only adds 2 games.

Aren't we going to more games in-conference in a couple of years? I'm vague on that. Something to do with the ACC Network?

Next year. And Roy hates it. Really makes scheduling tough. One of the cool things about college hoops is the great national match-ups in November and Deccember. Much of that will be more difficult now.

And yes. it's driven by the ACC Network and again, greed.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

What do people think about adding 4 minutes to each half? I doubt it'd ever happen, but I'd be interested in seeing it. No, it's not because it makes the game more like the NBA. I just love watching basketball, so more is better in my opinion. It also makes your bench more important, because at 48 minutes you probably can't play your starters 90+% of the minutes. I don't really see much downside, other than old records would be easier to break.

I particularly like the idea of more bench play. But I'd worry that some coaches would just abuse their top guys by playing them all of the extra minutes.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Next year. And Roy hates it. Really makes scheduling tough. One of the cool things about college hoops is the great national match-ups in November and Deccember. Much of that will be more difficult now.

And yes. it's driven by the ACC Network and again, greed.

If we add a couple of games to the overall season, then it would work out. Who would make that decision? The NCAA? Conferences?

 

[gary-7]

If we add a couple of games to the overall season, then it would work out. Who would make that decision? The NCAA? Conferences?

total games is an NCAA rule

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I'd like to see the foul limit eliminated. Or at least increased.

Instead of fouling out after 5, I'd rather see the fouling player have to go to the bench for a period of time. Say a minute or 2.

You could still have the bonus tallies. Maybe when a team accumulates 7 fouls, in addition to being in the bonus, all subsequent fouls require the player to sit for double minutes.

I bet that would cut down on rough play. But it would also mean that a player who would otherwise have fouled out, could still be available in crunch time.

Getting players in foul trouble would still be a smart strategy - since it would get them off the floor. Not permanently, but right away for a short interval.

Think of a guy like Isaiah who would sometimes pick up 2 quick fouls and then be lost for the rest of the half. Instead, he have to sit for a minute or 2 each time, but could then come back in.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

total games is an NCAA rule

That's what I figured.

Is the total number of conference games a NCAA rule, too? I mean it seems like every conference I have checked plays 18 conference games.

If so, has the NCAA changed that?

 

[gary-7]

I'd like to see the foul limit eliminated. Or at least increased.

Instead of fouling out after 5, I'd rather see the fouling player have to go to the bench for a period of time. Say a minute or 2.

You could still have the bonus tallies. Maybe when a team accumulates 7 fouls, in addition to being in the bonus, all subsequent fouls require the player to sit for double minutes.

I bet that would cut down on rough play. But it would also mean that a player who would otherwise have fouled out, could still be available in crunch time.

Getting players in foul trouble would still be a smart strategy - since it would get them off the floor. Not permanently, but right away for a short interval.

Think of a guy like Isaiah who would sometimes pick up 2 quick fouls and then be lost for the rest of the half. Instead, he have to sit for a minute or 2 each time, but could then come back in.

100% disagree. There has to be consequences for fouling. There are too many teams already who try to get away with as much mayhem as they can. Last thing we need to do is give them impunity.

 

[gary-7]

That's what I figured.

Is the total number of conference games a NCAA rule, too? I mean it seems like every conference I have checked plays 18 conference games.

If so, has the NCAA changed that?

conference games are a conference thing

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

100% disagree. There has to be consequences for fouling. There are too many teams already who try to get away with as much mayhem as they can. Last thing we need to do is give them impunity.

I think it would have the opposite effect. Imagine late in the game. Even a player with only a foul or 2 will want to be careful if it means he might have to sit for a couple of minutes during a crucial stretch.

I think the immediate punishment would have a salutary impact.

 

[gauchoheel]

Next year. And Roy hates it. Really makes scheduling tough. One of the cool things about college hoops is the great national match-ups in November and Deccember. Much of that will be more difficult now.

And yes. it's driven by the ACC Network and again, greed.

No reason it should be more difficult. Scheduling is up to the coaches, so they can add whoever they want. It's not like the selection committee (and RPI, and all of the other metrics) doesn't account for strength of schedule, so there's no reason to eliminate tough non-conference games instead of cupcakes.

Anyway, many teams already schedule mostly cupcakes, and you know people will continue playing in the island tournaments, so I see going to 20 conference games as adding more important games on net. We just added a home-and-home with Gonzaga for the next two years, which I'm thrilled about. Combined with the early season tournaments, ACC/B1G challenge, CBS Sports Classic, and 2 extra ACC games I think we'll have an even better schedule moving forward.

I particularly like the idea of more bench play. But I'd worry that some coaches would just abuse their top guys by playing them all of the extra minutes.

It's possible, but I sorta doubt it. At some point fatigue effects your play enough that the coach is better off playing your backup. NBA players rarely sit less than 8-10 minutes per game, whereas its fairly easy to sit college starters only 3-4 minutes when you need to.

Think of it if we went the other way and imagine if we took 4 minutes off each half. You'd probably see many teams barely use their bench at all. At the margins having a few more minutes of game time really makes the bench more important, and I'd like to see it matter even more in college basketball.

 

[CrazyHeel]

Here's something I'd like to see. If a game goes to overtime, each coach can pick a player and take away a personal foul, but only as long as that player hasn't received a technical foul in that game.

 

[Heelswin]

IMO, the three biggest changes to college b'ball have been effected by:

1. Dean Smith
2. Michael Jordan
3. Three point shot

Who knows why for each one?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Here's something I'd like to see. If a game goes to overtime, each coach can pick a player and take away a personal foul, but only as long as that player hasn't received a technical foul in that game.

Or just raise the foul limit by 1 foul for each overtime period. So anyone who fouled out gets to play in OT, but only has 1 foul left. And guys who were playing timidly with 4 fouls can now play harder.

 

[johnhelvete]

Or just raise the foul limit by 1 foul for each overtime period. So anyone who fouled out gets to play in OT, but only has 1 foul left. And guys who were playing timidly with 4 fouls can now play harder.

The additional foul for overtime makes a lot of sense, but I would disagree about allowing players that have fouled out in regulation to play in overtime.