Coby White to the Draft
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I have nothing but the best of wishes for Coby, he gave us a truly amazing freshman year while continuing to impress me more and more as the year went on. I really do believe that his play this year and how Roy gave him the keys to the ship will have an impact on the young guns in the recruiting world and benefit us in many of the next classes.
In addition to his great performances, I will always think about how great of a teammate he was and how much joy he had in seeing his teammates succeed. It is sad to know that he we won’t get to see him suit up for us anymore, but you know what I wouldn’t trade being able to watch him this year for anything as he will be someone us Heels fans will be talking about for a long time. Keep making us proud Coby!
In addition to his great performances, I will always think about how great of a teammate he was and how much joy he had in seeing his teammates succeed. It is sad to know that he we won’t get to see him suit up for us anymore, but you know what I wouldn’t trade being able to watch him this year for anything as he will be someone us Heels fans will be talking about for a long time. Keep making us proud Coby!
His measurements will be big. He doesn't look to have great length despite being 6'5". If he measures say 6'5" with a 6'7" wingspan he should stay top 10. But if his wingspan is 6'4" or 6'5" like some have said , it could hurt him some.
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His length has always been a knock on him, but that is more of him as a 2 guard. His ability to shoot at distance with a quick release this year coupled with running the point mitigates that if a team believes he can be a point in the league. As a point guard his wingspan is fine, as a two guard he is a undersized.
His workouts will be key, if they feel he can dee longer 2 guards a bit and run the point a bit as a combo guy he has a good chance of going somewhere around the top 10.
In any event he is solidly a mid first round guy at the worst. Great job Coby !!!!!!!!
I think Coby will go top 10. He's right up there with Garland as the best lead ball initiator after Morant, and a lot of the highly regarded wings didn't live up to their billing fully.
I think the knock on him at the next level is defense. He will almost surely never be a plus NBA defender (not super long or strong and didn't seem to have great defensive lateral agility), maybe not even an average one. I guess a big question is can he become a great shooter? We know he's pretty athletic and can get to the rim, but how well he can master the pull-up game will determine if he's just a decent starter or an All-star type.
I think the knock on him at the next level is defense. He will almost surely never be a plus NBA defender (not super long or strong and didn't seem to have great defensive lateral agility), maybe not even an average one. I guess a big question is can he become a great shooter? We know he's pretty athletic and can get to the rim, but how well he can master the pull-up game will determine if he's just a decent starter or an All-star type.
And being able to finishing at the rim is a whole different level in the league. I know it's not the layman's take, but defense is so much tougher in the league then in college. EVERYBODY ( even the "scrubs") can knock down open college 3's. In college they give half the guys open looks if they want it .You will have long athletic defenders contesting 25 foot jump shots, not 20 foot top of the key looks, and 7 foot fully developed physically athletic bigs waiting at the rim. That is why NBA people put so much importance on wingspan and measurable. Over a 82 game season, plus 2 month playoffs if you are a contender, measurables matter. Grown man bodies, and professional skill levels night in and night out to defend you, and for you to defend.
Agreed. And I don’t think he will be a great finisher at the rim, to be clear. He wasn’t this year, and most NBA point guards except the absolute freak athletes don’t make their living at the rim. He will have to really lean on his outside shot. One big advantage he already has is all the step backs and other moves to create space for himself. He seemingly won’t be dependent on kickouts like most shooters, and this will really help him over players like Tre Jones (I didn’t see him create for himself at all the few times I watched Dook). Let’s see how he shoots on NBA defenders now.
Gary started it ofc.
That said, I don't see how Trae young is anymore a point guard than Coby White is. Trae Young is a chucker score first PG also.
Yeah that’s kinda my point.
I’m obviously trolling by overly stating that Coby is a PG because it’s ridiculous how some people on this board slighted him all season.
That said, Trae and Coby in the same backcourt could work but doesn’t make sense. I liken it to McCollum and Lillard. It works, but they’ll never win anything major cuz they are too similar.
I mean, I can see it working . I just don't see how in one hand Gary is calling Trae Young a PG and in the other saying Coby isn't.
Coby can easily play the 1 or the 2 in the NBA depending on team needs.
I think he uses the phrase PG2 to describe White. Just a different type of PG. Either way, the thread is about Coby leaving, not Gary. Coby deserves better than letting his thread devolve into thread trolling a UNC fan by another UNC fan. Back to Coby now!!??
If Coby can develop his shot, he can be a lead initiator in the NBA. He wouldn’t guard 1s on the ball most likely, he’d be a stash defender. I think he’d be a bad fit with Trae Young; that’d be a horrible defensive backcourt. He needs to play with a 2 that can defend the top initiators at the point of attack IMO.
What? Coby has been great at finishing this year. What have you been watching?
I think Coby will flourish the most as more of a 6th man Jason Terry , Jamal Crawford type guy. Playing both guard spots.
For real. I guess simply relaying exactly what is coming out of the Hawks' camp down here and being talked about on ATL sports radio this past week apparently was somehow controversial...
. Whatever. Sounds like a potentially good situation for him to me.Gary didn't start anything, you just hear what you want to hear. He simply stated what he heard coming out of the Hawks camp down there.
I agree tick, and what I truly loved when he drove the ball was the fact that he finished through contact and stayed on his feet A LOT. He got knocked down several times but there were a ton of plays where if he would have fallen, he would have gotten more calls. Don't want him to flop, but other guys, even some of our past players, drew many a calls that way.
Did you watch him play this year? They could make a 5 minute long highlight reel just of his finishes at the rim, where the crowd and announcers would ooh and aah and wonder how did he just do that?
Maybe only Ja Morant was a better rim finisher at guard this year, and you'd have to go back to possibly Lawson for the Heels, though I think they were about even regarding ability to drive and finish at the rim.
Even in the Auburn game, Coby's ability to finish was a key reason we didn't lose by 30+.
Seriously.
And it's not like Steph Curry and CJ McCollum are freak athletes and they are great finishers.
You’re an idiot if you don’t think Gary was stirring the shit with his comment.
He's stirred it all season. A guy who should have damn near universal praise for what he did for UNC basketball this season got less love than Andrew Platek this season from Gary.
I've said in the past - a former UNC player who has season tickets does a similar post game wrap up after every game on TOS. It's amazing how different and universally praised his are than Gary's. Gary has some odd vendetta because Roy didn't choose his beloved to start at PG this season and has stubbornly kept it up all season.
Whatever, season is over and Coby is gone so I'm done with it. However, it's going to get super annoying if Gary starts dropping "it's so great to have a PG with natural PG instincts finally" next year when talking about Cole in an effort to dig at Coby more.
What is more sad is Gary refuses to own it. He thinks he’s sly but dude is so transparent.
As a guard? Honestly, I know they make a big deal about that for the Bigs, just didn't realize it is that important for a guard.
Wings and bigs. PGs (or whatever the hell other people want to call him) you're right, not as big of a factor at all.
PGs in 2019, to me, are about...can you push the tempo? can you shoot? can you get to the FT line consistently? can you manage a game?
I repeat, you guys hear what you want to hear. I read it at face value.
Back to Coby white. Congrats to the young man on moving one step closer
To fulfilling his dreams and those of his family. I’m certain that his father in heaven is beyond proud of his son.
And guys, I was as vocal all year about Gary and anybody else that wanted to negate Coby as a “true” point guard. A true point guard is one that does what it Takes to put his team in position to win games and Coby did that A LOT. And certainly more than the other 2 on our roster (Platek and Seventh). Platek’s greatest contribution during games were the cute sideline celebrations (usually when Coby did something good) and Seventh’s greatest contribution was making sure the other team got ample practice in stealing the ball and going on a run. Roy saw it, and most everybody else in America saw it minus s few on this board which is why minutes were dispersed the way they were. Those 2 are certainly good guys, but showed some weird bias or selective stupidity for whatever reason. They showed themselves specific to Coby all season. They’ve been roasted all year on here. Not much more roasting we can do at this point. Move on.
To fulfilling his dreams and those of his family. I’m certain that his father in heaven is beyond proud of his son.
And guys, I was as vocal all year about Gary and anybody else that wanted to negate Coby as a “true” point guard. A true point guard is one that does what it Takes to put his team in position to win games and Coby did that A LOT. And certainly more than the other 2 on our roster (Platek and Seventh). Platek’s greatest contribution during games were the cute sideline celebrations (usually when Coby did something good) and Seventh’s greatest contribution was making sure the other team got ample practice in stealing the ball and going on a run. Roy saw it, and most everybody else in America saw it minus s few on this board which is why minutes were dispersed the way they were. Those 2 are certainly good guys, but showed some weird bias or selective stupidity for whatever reason. They showed themselves specific to Coby all season. They’ve been roasted all year on here. Not much more roasting we can do at this point. Move on.
It matters at all positions. THink about a guy like Rondo that was only 6'1 180. Guy was a strong defender largely because he has a 6'9" wingspan. Now if you can score and fill it up they will find a place for you. But from a 2 way player standpoint and the defensive end it matters. You also have guys with great length that don't defend either , ie. James Harden. But you have had PG's with solid stature height wise make it in the league at a high level with short arms. Guys like Steve Nash or Steph Curry , but both are/were isolated defensively because of their lack of length.
Y'know, I was done even messing with this nonsense, but that is the most assinine, insulting and just purely juvenile thing I've read on here in a while, and THAT is saying something. Truth be known I've treated his PG play quite fairly all season, and in some cases with kidd gloves just to not upset some people's delicate sensibilities. And now here is yet another case in point --- I simply relay something almost verbatum about the topic at hand from Atlanta sports radio (something positive, no less) and the wailing starts again, just because it doesn't fit someone's precious narrative? Seriously, grow up.
Oh, and I can assure you anything I say about Cole Anthony --- just as it has been with Coby White --- will be true, whether you or anyone else likes it or not.
Gee, you're being stubborn and think everything you say is right. I'm truly shocked.
Cole Anthony is a scoring point like Berry and Coby...just like the NBA like....Berry was just too short...too slow....not a good enough shooter to get drafted. Now Gary if you continue with this behavior, I will ban you from this board.
