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CONFIRMED: Cormac Ryan Transferring To North Carolina

A very veteran addition. I think I heard he is 25 years old, I did not know that. He is physical and can shoot it with tons of experience.

Wojcik seems more and more like a "dream school" addition so he can say he played at UNC. Good practice player type role?I don't think he will see the court very much.
 
Adding experienced, tough, talented shooters who are leaders can only be a good thing! He is a player who I hated to play against so I expect to love him in Tar Heel blue!

Well done Hubs! Get the talent and then figure out how to use them!
Despite the naysayers, I know we will put them in the best place to succeed!
 
I'm not even sure how to react to this.
I am conflicted on this one, on the one hand never a bad thing to bring in a proven solid jump shooter, hits a strong lacking we had last season. On the other hand we now have Wojik and unless we are just going to settle in as a small ball team I don't get the need here? I would think both guys will come in looking for solid PT, right now it looks as if they could be our rotation at the 3 and yes we need solid shooting from the 3 but I would sure love to have some length at the 3 so our wing is able to shoot over defenders. Ryan had some really good production games but he as well had some low production games last season, isn't that as well a definition of Caleb Love last season returns?

Ryan is not likely to be the focus of to many defenses we go against so maybe his shots can be cleaner looks than he was able to get at ND being more of a focus for defenses. He is not a guy you are going to want to leave to double another guy and was the problem with Leaky at the 3 and that was a major problem on the offensive end. He is a kid that you are not likely going to question his effort, he is going to put in work on both ends, kid will move without the ball, he can pump fake and drive on pressure, while not Leaky as a defender by any means he does work hard on that end.

As for the kid himself, very clearly he wanted very badly to be at UNC, he realized that other wings were also being looked at and if one of those other guys took the offer he may not have his offer any further so he struck when the iron was hottest, while on his visit. Ingram was on campus as well and I wonder if that forced Ryan's hand? For me, he wants to be at UNC is extra credit but Mckoy wanted to be at UNC as well and still that didn't work out. If our wing (3) rotation next year is Ryan and Wojik I really hope they really tune in their jump shooting because we are going to need them to be deadly snipers, unless we can get yet another wing that can bring more physicality to the position. I think we are looking at only 1 more guy from the portal and we are still not sure how we will cover Bacot's back up and I feel like we need a longer wing that can still shoot, aka Cam or Justin like.
 
Almost all Tar Heel fans these past few seasons have expressed non-stop concern over consistent outside shooting. Just can't imagine having "too much" of it.....
 
A couple of things I like about his game:
- Really good footwork off pin downs and staggers. Seems to understand how to use screens and sets his feet quickly and is ready to shoot it on the catch.
- Seems to know how to play without the ball in his hands. Which is something this team desperately needed.
- Looks like he has some length.

So what we know about next year's team. We have 3 potentially good high-volume 3-point shooters. RJ, Ryan, and Wojcik. Hopefully, they shoot it well. Hopefully, they all shoot it above 35% next year. That will naturally make us more efficient offensively. I don't think any of them are "knock down" 3-point shooters. But I do think they're good shooters so hopefully they'll be good shooters next year.

We have Bacot and I would imagine the offense can flow more easily through him because we'll have some more spacing.

I think we lack some playmaking ability. Maybe RJ will be a better playmaker with shooting around him. Right now, I sneaky think that Cormac Ryan might be our most gifted playmaker. Maybe another addition will help that, but right now, it's lacking pretty badly. Also, we lack some bouncy dudes. We have a bunch of 6'5"-6'9" dudes so maybe that will make up for it.
 
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A couple of things I like about his game:
- Really good footwork off pin downs and staggers. Seems to understand how to use screens and sets his feet quickly and is ready to shoot it on the catch.
- Seems to know how to play without the ball in his hands. Which is something this team desperately needed.
- Looks like he has some length.

So what we know about next year's team. We have 3 potentially good high-volume 3-point shooters. RJ, Ryan, and Wojcik. Hopefully, they shoot it well. Hopefully, they all shoot it above 35% next year. That will naturally make us more efficient offensively. I don't think any of them are "knock down" 3-point shooters. But I do think they're good shooters so hopefully they'll be good shooters next year.

We have Bacot and I would imagine the offense can flow more easily through him because we'll have some more spacing.

I think we lack some playmaking ability. Maybe RJ will be a better playmaker with shooting around him. Right now, I sneaky think that Cormac Ryan might be our most gifted playmaker. Maybe another addition will help that, but right now, it's lacking pretty badly. Also, we lack some bouncy dudes. We have a bunch of 6'5"-6'9" dudes so maybe that will make up for it.
I think the plan is we add one/both of Ingram and Cadeau. Both are playmakers, meaning Davis can play more of a secondary role there and Ryan/Wojcik/Withers can focus on off the ball spacing and connecting.
 
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It's obviously concerning that we are adding non-star pieces from relatively bad ACC teams (UL, ND) and hoping they can turn our team around, but we aren't sure exactly what the gameplan is yet.

I'd say there is an argument that we are reaching out to a lot of smaller players because Cadeau is not coming this year and RJ will indeed be the point again. We just started reaching out to CJ Frederick as well. We can only wait and see though.
 
It's obviously concerning that we are adding non-star pieces from relatively bad ACC teams (UL, ND) and hoping they can turn our team around, but we aren't sure exactly what the gameplan is yet.

I'd say there is an argument that we are reaching out to a lot of smaller players because Cadeau is not coming this year and RJ will indeed be the point again. We just started reaching out to CJ Frederick as well. We can only wait and see though.
I’m trying to find all these smaller players we have reached out to. Church looks to be 6’ 3” and the smallest player to be brought up. Who are the others?
 
Andrew touched on this during his recent podcast and it’s an interesting and unusual stat. Cormac Ryan could be the first player to have worn 3 different uniforms when he steps on the Dean Dome floor in the Tar Heels first game against Radford on November 6th. Cormac has played here when he was with Stanford, Notre Dame and now as a Tar Heel.
 
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I do like that it appears we have dudes who can play without the ball. I don't think any of the new guys are guys that need to dribble it 20 times to put up a low-percentage, contested shot. I do think that's really important. You can win some games with those kinds of players when you have consistent production with RJ and Bacot.

But this team doesn't appear like it's going to be all that dynamic. But in fairness, we haven't really had dynamic and gifted team since the Justin Jackson sophomore/junior teams. We had bits and pieces of each team that had some gifted players, but it's been a while since we've had loaded teams.

Would be nice to add any 6'8/9" dude with some bounce who has some skill.
 
I’m trying to find all these smaller players we have reached out to. Church looks to be 6’ 3” and the smallest player to be brought up. Who are the others?
I think the reference was to the glut of Guard-types we have now --- and that not a damned one of them is a Point.
Not seeing the valiue of reaching out to any others who aren't, TBH.
 
I think the reference was to the glut of Guard-types we have now --- and that not a damned one of them is a Point.
Not seeing the valiue of reaching out to any others who aren't, TBH.
No it wasn’t. Read the post. I do however understand what you are saying. But I wonder who we’ve reached out to that seems like a 1 or 2.
 
I think the reference was to the glut of Guard-types we have now --- and that not a damned one of them is a Point.
Not seeing the valiue of reaching out to any others who aren't, TBH.
Do you not think Cadeau is coming in next year? Everyone else seems to, including yours truly.
 
Exactly. I think they aren’t reaching out to pgs because they know or at least think someone’s got it tied down already. 🤞
That decision has not beem made on EC's end, although there is indeed optimism.

And although we have actually spoken to at least one transfer PG, I am not a fan of how that has been approached fron our end... for reasons I'm not at liberty to discuss right now... (will explain if/when the time is right)
 
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Hubert’s offense is much more efficient when there are 4 3 point shooters on the floor. Spread the floor and once Bacot is doubled, pass until we get a wide open 3.

Good addition. He fits that role just fine
 
Looks like Hubert is copying Krazywhiskey’s latter years‘ style more than Dean or Roy’s, with a live or die by the three approach. ...We criticized K for not playing his bench and an over-reliance on the three, yet here we are playing like that.
k-rat didn't substitute or make in-game adjustments because he was too busy working the refs. hubert doesn't do it because.... well, i haven't figured that out, maybe lack of experience as head coach?
 
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Looks like Hubert is copying Krazywhiskey’s latter years‘ style more than Dean or Roy’s, with a live or die by the three approach. Meanwhile, Scheyer’s approach appears more like Carolina’s has traditionally been. We criticized K for not playing his bench and an over-reliance on the three, yet here we are playing like that.
Agree with your statement above to a degree. Davis has abandon the styles of Dean and Roy and to me it appears he's using more of the style that he played with in the pro's. Granted he has some things which we hope will be changing this upcoming season which you mentioned. If not, there could be some reason for concern going forward.
 
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Just hope this yr is a scoring party rather than laying bricks party
He's a streaky shooter. But one thing I think has hurt him is that ND has not had a major presence in the lane, which means defenses have much easier time being tight on a perimeter shooter, including being physical with them. Bacon provides the presence.
 
Looks like Hubert is copying Krazywhiskey’s latter years‘ style more than Dean or Roy’s, with a live or die by the three approach. Meanwhile, Scheyer’s approach appears more like Carolina’s has traditionally been. We criticized K for not playing his bench and an over-reliance on the three, yet here we are playing like that.
When you aren't good, you need to shoot a lot of 3's. You can only run Roy's style with effectiveness if you have really good players. Roy tried to run his style for the first half of that McAdoo/Hubert/Joel James front court and it was a disaster. Then that team became one that was much more reliant on the 3 ball.

It's really hard to play 2 traditional big guys like Roy's system when your 3 and 2 are horrendous shooters. The 3 is the ultimate equalizer if you're not as good. If you're really good, you can be more dependent on getting the ball inside, getting the opposition into foul trouble and winning that way. If you're bad, you better chuck up a ton of 3's and hope variance falls in your favor.

I'm part of the camp where your style is dictated around your personnel. If you recruit the same type of personnel over and over again, sure it's easy to have that defined system. But I'd rather have a coach that's flexible in their system and gear it more towards their players, as opposed to forcing their players into the system. There's more than 1 way to win a lot of games.

Agree with your statement above to a degree. Davis has abandon the styles of Dean and Roy and to me it appears he's using more of the style that he played with in the pro's. Granted he has some things which we hope will be changing this upcoming season which you mentioned. If not, there could be some reason for concern going forward.
When Hubert played in the pros, NBA teams didn't shoot 3's. They threw the ball down in the paint and shot mid-range jumpers because dudes weren't as skilled shooters back then. Hubert's style is NOTHING like when he played in the NBA. And it shouldn't be. I agree there are reasons for concern. But one of them isn't that his system is like when he played in the pros.
 
When you aren't good, you need to shoot a lot of 3's. You can only run Roy's style with effectiveness if you have really good players. Roy tried to run his style for the first half of that McAdoo/Hubert/Joel James front court and it was a disaster. Then that team became one that was much more reliant on the 3 ball.

It's really hard to play 2 traditional big guys like Roy's system when your 3 and 2 are horrendous shooters. The 3 is the ultimate equalizer if you're not as good. If you're really good, you can be more dependent on getting the ball inside, getting the opposition into foul trouble and winning that way. If you're bad, you better chuck up a ton of 3's and hope variance falls in your favor.

I'm part of the camp where your style is dictated around your personnel. If you recruit the same type of personnel over and over again, sure it's easy to have that defined system. But I'd rather have a coach that's flexible in their system and gear it more towards their players, as opposed to forcing their players into the system. There's more than 1 way to win a lot of games.


When Hubert played in the pros, NBA teams didn't shoot 3's. They threw the ball down in the paint and shot mid-range jumpers because dudes weren't as skilled shooters back then. Hubert's style is NOTHING like when he played in the NBA. And it shouldn't be. I agree there are reasons for concern. But one of them isn't that his system is like when he played in the pros.
Beg the differ, the NBA adopted the 3 point shot in 1979-1980 season.
 
Looks like Hubert is copying Krazywhiskey’s latter years‘ style more than Dean or Roy’s, with a live or die by the three approach. Meanwhile, Scheyer’s approach appears more like Carolina’s has traditionally been. We criticized K for not playing his bench and an over-reliance on the three, yet here we are playing like that.
It sure looks like it right now.
Who do we blame next season if Armando is still not getting enough touches and/or the 3-point percentage is only 32% as a team?
Groover is gone can't blame him anymore.
 
Hubert’s offense is much more efficient when there are 4 3 point shooters on the floor. Spread the floor and once Bacot is doubled, pass until we get a wide open 3.

Good addition. He fits that role just fine
Beg the differ, the NBA adopted the 3 point shot in 1979-1980 season.
So you’re saying that the style of play is the same because the nba had implemented a 3 point shot? No
 
So you’re saying that the style of play is the same because the nba had implemented a 3 point shot? No
My point is this past year, we had Leaky in one corner, Nance in the other, very little motion from either player. Guards at the top of the key dribbling the air of the basketball, with Bacot setting high screens and rolling to the basket. Question, do you or have you watched much of the NBA over the years? Realize that some people are not fans of the NBA, and the lack of effort until the playoffs. Not saying all teams play with players standing around without any motion, just in a set spot waiting for a pass so they can shoot.
 
My point is this past year, we had Leaky in one corner, Nance in the other, very little motion from either player. Guards at the top of the key dribbling the air of the basketball, with Bacot setting high screens and rolling to the basket. Question, do you or have you watched much of the NBA over the years? Realize that some people are not fans of the NBA, and the lack of effort until the playoffs. Not saying all teams play with players standing around without any motion, just in a set spot waiting for a pass so they can shoot.
But you said the offense resembled an NBA offense when Hubert played in the NBA. Hubert played in the 90’s when pace was slower, and traditional big guys were dominant.

Hubert ran a lot of college sets last year. But like an NBA coach, he called a lot of sets. But the style itself wasn’t anything like it was when Hubert was in the NBA.
 
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