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Sounds about right, although amazon fire and roku pretty much do the same thing. Only other thing you may want to check on is that new tivo, which would do those same things plus record over-the-air programming.

FWIW Fire TV is what I have. Amazon Prime is worth the cost for the free 2-day shipping if you order stuff that way, plus the movies and TV shows.

Is the TIVO available on its own and not as a package thru Dish? Is it a box or a stick like Amazon or Roku ? I don't have a smart TV so I think I need the box from Amazon.

When you say you have Fire TV with Amazon, did you mean you bought a TV with this installed or that you turned your existing TV in to a Fire by adding either the box or the stick?
 
Yeah, it is itemized on my bill for $59.99 and the lease for the modem is $10.00, so $69.95. I do not have phone thru TW, just TV and internet.
You are leasing your modem?

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The product I'm talking about is Tivo Bolt. I don't have any firsthand experience other than reading about it. It basically works like a DVR cable box, except you can use an antenna instead of cable if you choose, and it also lets you access services like Netflix, Hulu, etc. Supposedly it lets you search for shows and content across all those platforms from one place, rather than having to know which app has which content.

What I have is the Fire TV box, with a regular (non-smart) flat screen TV. As long as your TV has an HDMI input, Amazon Fire (box or stick) and Roku do basically the same thing - they play streaming apps through your TV.

Another way to save a little money, long-term, would be to buy your own modem. They're ~$60 so $10/month is a ripoff.
 
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You are leasing your modem?

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Yeah, I guess, they are charging me $10 for leasing the modem, can I buy one and not have to lease theirs? May sound like a dumb question but I am not up on this stuff, that is why I am asking you guys to help me!
 
Yeah, I guess, they are charging me $10 for leasing the modem, can I buy one and not have to lease theirs? May sound like a dumb question but I am not up on this stuff, that is why I am asking you guys to help me!
If you don't need telephony through your modem then the Arris Surfboard 6141 is pretty good. Most providers will need you to call them once you have it plugged in so they can send their config to the modem. You can get one at Walmart probably. Or Amazon.

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If you don't need telephony through your modem then the Arris Surfboard 6141 is pretty good. Most providers will need you to call them once you have it plugged in so they can send their config to the modem. You can get one at Walmart probably. Or Amazon.

TWC actually has a list of "approved" modems on their site. As you said, once you purchase one they ask that you let them know so they can configure the settings.

The leased modem is a pretty standard deal since most customers don't want to have to deal with shopping for equipment. But yeah, cable companies' margin on that has to be enormous.
 
The product I'm talking about is Tivo Bolt. I don't have any firsthand experience other than reading about it. It basically works like a DVR cable box, except you can use an antenna instead of cable if you choose, and it also lets you access services like Netflix, Hulu, etc. Supposedly it lets you search for shows and content across all those platforms from one place, rather than having to know which app has which content.

What I have is the Fire TV box, with a regular (non-smart) flat screen TV. As long as your TV has an HDMI input, Amazon Fire (box or stick) and Roku do basically the same thing - they play streaming apps through your TV.

Another way to save a little money, long-term, would be to buy your own modem. They're ~$60 so $10/month is a ripoff.

Dang Jules, that TIVO bolt is the STUFF ! Those folks that hesitate to cut the cord because they either love the one remote search feature with cable or a dish or that can not be without DVR, this is the absolute deal for them. The box for $299 lets you DVR 150hrs ($199 you can record 75hrs) and have seamless searching thru all the app based programming as well. I don't have 20hrs of DVR with my Time Warner box. The monthly service is $14.99 a month or $149 a years and for a lil over $500 it looks like you can never have a monthly fee again. When you look at it and realize the ability to DVR so much more is just the beginning of the features you get it is amazing what I have been paying to Time Warner for so much less features...

FYI, I am paying $8.50 a month for the box and $12.99 a month for DVR to Time Warner right now. If I got the 75hr box for $199 and bought the life time service deal for $550 as comparred to TW now at $21.49/mo in 34.8mo I would be at cost break even and from that point on be saving $21.49 a month for ever? Now I would pay the annual at $149 a year, $10 bucks a month is half what I am paying now for a ton more features than I get right now.

Yeah, I am sold on this TiVo deal!
 
Now what if I were to get Direct TV just the basic service and add the TiVo bolt along with the app based programming via Hulu ect? Maybe add sling for the ESPN stuff I could not get on the most basic Direct TV package? I would prefer not to lose my cable modem thru Time Warner because of the speed but could consider DSL if I could keep my Roadrunner email address and the contents I have in it. Roadrunner is web based, I access it from work all the time so I actually do not need their modem if I were to go to DSL thru a dish? True?
 
If you try it you'll have to come back and give us a review. If it does all it claims, and integrates everything smoothly, it could be a game changer.

Oh, trust me I will, I take my time doing things like this (the ole measure 10 times and cut once :) but when I get it done I want it just like I want it and will be more than glad to let you know how it works! WE got to help each other, those cable companies profit by the complexity and if we can simplify this and save folks a few bucks then I am more than willing to do so!
 
Now what if I were to get Direct TV just the basic service and add the TiVo bolt along with the app based programming via Hulu ect? Maybe add sling for the ESPN stuff I could not get on the most basic Direct TV package? I would prefer not to lose my cable modem thru Time Warner because of the speed but could consider DSL if I could keep my Roadrunner email address and the contents I have in it. Roadrunner is web based, I access it from work all the time so I actually do not need their modem if I were to go to DSL thru a dish? True?
That sounds like you'd be spending more money, not less, but you'd have to assess that I guess. Plus it sounds like the Tivo Bolt doesn't play nice with DirecTV. I wouldn't go DSL, the speed is inferior and you can get the weather interference issues.

What I would try, if I were starting fresh, would be:

Cable Internet using my own modem and wifi router
Tivo BOLT attached to antenna for network programming
Whatever streaming services (Sling/ESPN, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, etc.)

I don't see why you couldn't keep your TWC internet/email and have everything you need for a grand total of about $100/month or less, excluding the one-time cost of the Tivo Bolt.
 
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Update on Sling TV. I initially had four potential complaints with their service:

1) One channel in particular (Comedy Central) not available at all
2) Neither package they offered contained all the channels I wanted
3) Basic package only allows streaming on one device at a time
4) No pause/rewind/recording of live TV available

#1 has been resolved since they added Comedy Central this week.

The biggest problem with #2 is that ESPN/ESPN2 are only listed in the basic package, not the Beta package that I would've otherwise chosen. Well today I switched to the Beta package and guess what? It might actually include both ESPN and ESPN2, meaning Sling TV's comparison chart might be inaccurate (currently working to clarify this information). My plan was is to watch ESPN and ESPN2 via the Watch ESPN app on my Roku. And, by switching to the Beta package I've now added Fox Sports 1 and 2, Fox Regional Sports, FX, Nat Geo, my local Fox station, etc. plus a few on-demand channels. For CBS for college football in the fall, there's a Roku app if I choose to go that route.

[Edit:] Looks like I'm only getting ESPN and ESPN until the end of the current billing cycle. Basically, it has been grandfathered in for some reason even though they credited the charge on my bill.

Switching to the Beta package today solved for #3 as well since it allows simultaneous steaming on multiple devices. And by the way, I once again confirmed that switching between the two packages is a non-issue. It happens instantly and they simply pro-rate your bill, the effect of which is $0 since both packages are priced the same.

Still no solution to #4. I miss the convenience but not paying 3-4 times as much for cable just to have it.

It's taking some getting used to but overall I'm really, really happy with this service and glad I gave it a shot.
 
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Update on Sling TV. I initially had four potential complaints with their service:

1) One channel in particular (Comedy Central) not available at all
2) Neither package they offered contained all the channels I wanted
3) Basic package only allows streaming on one device at a time
4) No pause/rewind/recording of live TV available

#1 has been resolved since they added Comedy Central this week.

The biggest problem with #2 is that ESPN/ESPN2 are only listed in the basic package, not the Beta package that I would've otherwise chosen. Well today I switched to the Beta package and guess what? It actually includes both ESPN and ESPN2, meaning Sling TV's comparison chart is inaccurate. My plan was just to watch ESPN and ESPN2 via the Watch ESPN app on my Roku but now that's a non-issue. And, by switching to the Beta package I've now added Fox Sports 1 and 2, Fox Regional Sports, FX, Nat Geo, my local Fox station, etc. plus a few on-demand channels. Awesome. I'm getting every channel I could want with the possible exception of CBS for college football in the fall, but there's a Roku app if I choose to go that route.

Switching to the Beta package today solved for #3 as well since it allows simultaneous steaming on multiple devices. And by the way, I once again confirmed that switching between the two packages is a non-issue. It happens instantly and they simply pro-rate your bill, the effect of which is $0 since both packages are priced the same.

Still no solution to #4. I miss the convenience but not paying 3-4 times as much for cable just to have it.

It's taking some getting used to but overall I'm really, really happy with this service and glad I gave it a shot.
Can you PM me a basic recap of what you're running? I'm moving next month and I'm strongly considering cutting the cord. I pay $140 currently for cable (2 TVs) and internet. I think I'll be able to get down to $130 once I move down to one TV. Are you running cheaper than that with Sling TV and TWC internet?
 
Can you PM me a basic recap of what you're running? I'm moving next month and I'm strongly considering cutting the cord. I pay $140 currently for cable (2 TVs) and internet. I think I'll be able to get down to $130 once I move down to one TV. Are you running cheaper than that with Sling TV and TWC internet?
I'll poast it here if that's okay. Might be useful for others to get the summary.

Roku Streaming Stick:
  • One-time $50 expense
  • Includes apps for Sling TV, Watch ESPN, Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, Google Play, and dozens of others
  • Watch ESPN access requires a subscription to a participating provider of your choice (I use Sling TV)

Time Warner Internet Service:
  • $60 per month before sales taxes and various regulatory fees
  • "Extreme Internet" service with up to 30 Mpbs download speeds (they have other packages available with various speeds/costs, but this one is recommended for 4-5 devices and I like playing it safe here)
  • Unlimited usage, no data caps
  • Additional $10 per month for internet modem lease (you can provide your own modem for a one-time expense of about $80; buy one with wireless built in if you don't already have a wireless router)

Sling TV:
  • $20 per month before sales taxes (but no regulatory fees)
  • Subscription to their Beta package with over 30 channels
  • Options to add HBO, sports package, kids package, news package, etc.
  • Cancel online any time, change packages online any time
  • Watch any channel, on any device, anywhere with wireless using the Sling TV app

The most cost effective option is to buy the Roku Streaming Stick and your own internet modem/wireless router. That'll be a one-time expense of about $130. Then monthly you'll pay $60 for internet service plus $20 for Sling TV, $80 total per month.

My TWC bill used to be $190 per month but about $30 of that was phone service. So my cable + internet bill has gone from about $160 per month to $80 per month. Boom.

If you go the Sling route, make absolutely certain there are no data caps on your internet service. You'll be streaming all your television content via the internet. My internet usage went from roughly 50 GB per month to over 300 GB per month after the switch.
 
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I'll poast it here if that's okay. Might be useful for others to get the summary.

Roku Streaming Stick:
  • One-time $50 expense
  • Includes apps for Sling TV, Watch ESPN, Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, Google Play, and dozens of others
  • Watch ESPN access requires a subscription to a participating provider of your choice (I use Sling TV)

Time Warner Internet Service:
  • $60 per month before sales taxes and various regulatory fees
  • "Extreme Internet" service with up to 30 Mpbs download speeds (they have other packages available with various speeds/costs, but this one is recommended for 4-5 devices and I like playing it safe here)
  • Unlimited usage, no data caps
  • Additional $10 per month for internet modem lease (you can provide your own modem for a one-time expense of about $80; buy one with wireless built in if you don't already have a wireless router)

Sling TV:
  • $20 per month before sales taxes (but no regulatory fees)
  • Subscription to their Beta package with over 30 channels
  • Options to add HBO, sports package, kids package, news package, etc.
  • Cancel online any time, change packages online any time

The most cost effective option is to buy the Roku Streaming Stick and your own internet modem/wireless router. That'll be a one-time expense of about $130. Then monthly you'll pay $60 for internet service plus $20 for Sling TV, $80 total per month.

My TWC bill used to be $190 per month but about $30 of that was phone service. So my cable + internet bill has gone from about $160 per month to $80 per month. Boom.

If you go the Sling route, make absolutely certain there are no data caps on your internet service. You'll be streaming all your television content via the internet. My internet usage went from roughly 50 GB per month to over 300 GB per month after the switch.
Thanks bud, I'm about 90% convinced to cut the cord. The other 10% will hinge on this:

Streaming Live TV:
As you know, I only want cable for sports and a select few channels like History and A&E which are on Sling TV's beta package. Here's my concern:
- having the "streaming rights" to these channels. You say you get ESPN and ESPN2 now on the Beta package. 1), are you 100% sure I'd also get these channels if I got the Beta package and isn't some quirk that you're capitalizing due to your location or something like that? I guess even if not, I could switch back and forth between packages like you said.
- Expounding on the streaming rights thing, you said there's an app for CBS since you don't get that on Sling TV. But how would you have the subscription rights to that if you're no longer a cable customer? I'd definitely need CBS for college football. I mean I could always go to my parents' house but that's an inconvenience as they are across town.
- You do get Fox regional Sports? This would be a must for me so I could watch the Braves. I'm very hesitant about this, as I would NEED Fox Sports South. I don't know how they decide which regional one you get? I guess based off your location.

**The take-home here is I'm concerned that I'll get "access" to these streaming apps themselves but then not actually be able to do said streaming. For instance, it's a bit annoying that MLB restricts you from streaming the radio broadcast of baseball games unless you pay for it. You have to listen on a literal radio. To combat this, Fox Sports put out an app that let's you stream all of their Regional Sports Networks in addition to FS1. Well, I downloaded the app but can't fuggin stream Fox Sports South (but can stream other regionals outside my area like Fox Sports West and shit) because Comcast (my cable/internet provider) hasn't agreed a streaming deal with Fox for that app. THIS is the shit I'm leery of. I don't want to cut the cable thinking I'm gonna get certain things and then find out I can't stream the certain things, and then I'm stuck.
 
CBS is a broadcast station; all you need is an antenna.

I don't know about FSS. There's a Fox Sports app but I don't know if all their games are available on it.

But again, if you have cable internet, you still have a TV signal in your line, so you can keep the coax plugged into your TV and probably get it that way.
 
CBS is a broadcast station; all you need is an antenna.

But again, if you have cable internet, you still have a TV signal in your line, so you can keep the coax plugged into your TV and probably get it that way.
Here's the catch. Even if all those things work well, you're constantly switching between input devices: Roku --> antenna --> coaxial. That's a really pain when you just want to scan to see what's on. I'm still willing to pay a little bit for convenience (more on that in a minute).

I don't know yet whether I still have a strong enough TV signal in my line to use it for local channels. The inputs are all still run through cable boxes that I haven't disconnected yet. I'll try to get around to that soon and report back, but of course there are no guarantees it will work for everyone.

You say you get ESPN and ESPN2 now on the Beta package. 1), are you 100% sure I'd also get these channels if I got the Beta package and isn't some quirk that you're capitalizing due to your location or something like that? I guess even if not, I could switch back and forth between packages like you said.
I'm not 100% certain because I'm my own control group. :) If it doesn't work, you have two options. One, use the Watch ESPN app already available on your Roku. Or two, change packages temporarily. The last one would take maybe 30 seconds...log into the site, click off one package and on the other, then confirm.. A little annoying, but not a terrible option.

Expounding on the streaming rights thing, you said there's an app for CBS since you don't get that on Sling TV. But how would you have the subscription rights to that if you're no longer a cable customer?
It's a stand-alone subscription app and isn't linked to a participating provider like Watch ESPN. I believe it's $6 per month. I will gladly pay that for 3-4 months per year while college football is on. Here's where paying for convenience comes in. I want the convenience of accessing it via Roku instead of having to change input devices and having to manage extra equipment just to watch one channel.

You do get Fox regional Sports? This would be a must for me so I could watch the Braves. I'm very hesitant about this, as I would NEED Fox Sports South. I don't know how they decide which regional one you get? I guess based off your location.
Yes. I get Fox Sports South and Fox Sports Southeast. They definitely know your location because the new package also added my local Fox TV station [ETA: which means Panthers games, yes!], plus there was already a location-centric everything channel (news/weather/sports/etc.) specific to Charlotte. Also, get this. There are probably a half-dozen "place-holder" channels for the other Fox Sports regional networks. You can add those with the $5 per month sports package, but some of them are showing content even though I don't subscribe. I'd have to confirm but I want to say they were showing some post-game baseball interviews, game highlights, that kind of stuff.

Fox Sports put out an app that let's you stream all of their Regional Sports Networks in addition to FS1. Well, I downloaded the app but can't fuggin stream Fox Sports South (but can stream other regionals outside my area like Fox Sports West and shit) because Comcast (my cable/internet provider) hasn't agreed a streaming deal with Fox for that app. THIS is the shit I'm leery of. I don't want to cut the cable thinking I'm gonna get certain things and then find out I can't stream the certain things, and then I'm stuck.
You and JuleZ both hit on this. The Fox Sports app sucks (I have it on my phone) because of content restrictions. Remember that Sling TV is owned by Dish, so the access rights function more like traditional cable than online content. If you have a channel, you have a channel. And they definitely have all the Fox sports channels.

Does that help?
 
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Just went and added a bullet point above under Sling TV. You can watch all their content on any device anywhere you can get a strong enough wireless signal. TWC had some of that functionality but blocked a lot of channels, particularly live sporting events.
 
Yes. I get Fox Sports South and Fox Sports Southeast. They definitely know your location because the new package also added my local Fox TV station [ETA: which means Panthers games, yes!], plus there was already a location-centric everything channel (news/weather/sports/etc.) specific to Charlotte. Also, get this. There are probably a half-dozen "place-holder" channels for the other Fox Sports regional networks. You can add those with the $5 per month sports package, but some of them are showing content even though I don't subscribe. I'd have to confirm but I want to say they were showing some post-game baseball interviews, game highlights, that kind of stuff.
That was really the only concern I had left. I have no reason to keep cable TV anymore. I'll be making the switch in the near future. You are the man.
 
I wonder how far out we are from when we'll be able to have a true pay for what you want "a la carte" style programming. I saw that the internet providers just lost an appeal on a court case yesterday that affirmed that internet is a utility, not a luxury. I think maybe that might get the ball rolling on getting the cable/internet providers to stop reaming people in the ass on a monthly basis? Not sure.

I'd really like to cut the cord. I don't really watch that much TV, live sports is the majority, and then the occasional HBO or FX show. I hardly ever watch non-sports live, so would need to be able to stream them on demand. I'm a cheap bastard in general, but am willing to pay a slight premium for convenience. If it's only a few bucks more to keep me from having to fiddle with 3 different cords and a couple different devices and subscriptions and knowing which app for which I'm willing to do that. When it gets to be $20+ a month that I'm paying in premium, I'm willing to endure the clusterf*ck of various workarounds. I think I'm probably right on that $20 line as of now.

If internet (without a cable subscription) dropped to something more reasonable (like $20-30 per month instead of $50-60) I'd definitely unbundle it all.
 
I wonder how far out we are from when we'll be able to have a true pay for what you want "a la carte" style programming. I saw that the internet providers just lost an appeal on a court case yesterday that affirmed that internet is a utility, not a luxury. I think maybe that might get the ball rolling on getting the cable/internet providers to stop reaming people in the ass on a monthly basis? Not sure.

I'd really like to cut the cord. I don't really watch that much TV, live sports is the majority, and then the occasional HBO or FX show. I hardly ever watch non-sports live, so would need to be able to stream them on demand. I'm a cheap bastard in general, but am willing to pay a slight premium for convenience. If it's only a few bucks more to keep me from having to fiddle with 3 different cords and a couple different devices and subscriptions and knowing which app for which I'm willing to do that. When it gets to be $20+ a month that I'm paying in premium, I'm willing to endure the clusterf*ck of various workarounds. I think I'm probably right on that $20 line as of now.

If internet (without a cable subscription) dropped to something more reasonable (like $20-30 per month instead of $50-60) I'd definitely unbundle it all.
There's a lot to touch on in your post but let me address the "a la carte" thing. People keep saying this is coming, but I'm honestly not so sure. Let me first say that I am in no means an expert on this stuff, but the way I understand it is TV networks negotiate with cable companies on deals that mean the cable company ultimately makes that network a "staple" on certain or all of its offered tiers. I.E. The cable provider pays the network for the rights, knowing it can turn around and pass the buck to the consumer. I don't know how all these deals would shake out if the a la carte version became available. I get the sense that networks themselves would push back against it in addition to the cable providers because currently every cable customer pays for ESPN, but ESPN knows not everyone would pay for ESPN on an a la carte setup (especially because ESPN channels are like $5 per month vs. other networks that are less than $1 per month)
 
Final question, did I understand correctly that Sling TV is a provider for Watch ESPN? I.E. even if I don't have cable, and regardless of internet provider, Sling TV in itself will grant me access to Watch ESPN? Thanks.
Correct. They're on the list of participating providers I linked above.

If you're already logged in to Watch ESPN via your existing cable provider on your laptop or phone, you'll have to update your login credentials after you make the switch. That means finding the fine print at the bottom of the page or menu that says log out. Then, the next time you open the website or app, just input your new credentials with Sling TV (which will be your Sling TV user name and password).
 
Need to reiterate this point loud and clear:

There is no recording, no rewinding, and no pausing of live TV available on Sling TV.


If you miss something, you miss something. That is far and away the biggest downside of the service. This is probably a deal-breaker for families or even couples who watch a lot of TV, because it means that everybody in your household is probably going to miss watching something they want, when they want, on the TV they want at some point. But for those of us who live alone it's less of an issue.

I hardly ever watch non-sports live, so would need to be able to stream them on demand.
The apps on Roku do offer on-demand content. You'll have to do your own research to see what's available because it may not be the type of stuff you're looking for. Worth mentioning that Sling TV offers some on-demand content as well (FXX, Nat Geo Wild, etc.) but it's nowhere as robust as what traditional cable providers offer.
 
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Alright sports fans, here is a rundown of all the sports channels available via Sling TV based on what I can actually watch right now:

  • Local Fox station (NFL, MLB playoffs)
  • Fox Sports 1 (currently airing UFC Tonight)
  • Fox Sports 2 (currently airing Monster Energy Supercross)
  • Fox Sports South (currently airing NHRA Drag Racing)
  • Fox Sports Southeast (currently airing ... wait for it ... Reds at Braves woot woot)
  • TBS (has aired NCAA Tourney games last few years; MLB playoffs)
  • TNT (has aired NCAA Tourney games last few years)
  • truTV (has aired NCAA Tourney games last few years)
  • Fox Sports South Alternate 1 (currently airing Astros at Cardinals; blacked out in my area)
  • Fox Sports South Alternate 2 (off air)
  • Fox Sports South Alternate 3 (off air)
  • Fox Sports South Alternate 4 (off air)
  • Fox Sports Southeast Alternate 1 (off air)
  • Fox Sports Southeast Alternate 2 (off air)
  • Fox Sports Southeast Alternate 3 (off air)
  • Fox Sports Southeast Alternate 4 (off air)
  • ESPN (currently airing O.J.: Made in America)
  • ESPN 2 (currently airing Orioles at Red Sox; blacked out in my area and not available via Watch ESPN either)
The last one on that list worries me a little bit for the baseball fans out there. If you have cable, I assume you can tune into ESPN 2 and see the game, right?

Also, I may owe everyone a huge apology. I just double checked and it looks like I was subscribed to both Sling TV packages at the same time, which may be the reason I'm still getting ESPN and ESPN 2. I have changed and confirmed that my subscription is now just the Beta package -- which supposedly excludes ESPN and ESPN 2 -- but I'm still getting both so the change might not go into effect until tomorrow. I'll change my original poast above to note we're pending clarification on that. Very, very sorry if that turns out to be bad information. But as previously noted, you are still able to switch to the Watch ESPN app in just a few clicks, or you can take 30 seconds to change your Sling TV package online as needed.

[Edit:] I went in this weekend to confirm my subscriptions again. It looks like they have grandfathered my subscription to ESPN / ESPN 2 (and the other channels exclusive to the basic package) but that will end when the next billing cycle begins. That's why my account looked like I was subscribed to both packages when I checked the other day. They credited my account for the canceled basic package, though.

I'm unclear why this is happening. I changed packages on 6/12/16 so I have all available channels through 7/12/16. This might be a loophole in their subscription/billing that can be exploited by simply changing packages every month. More testing is probably in order, so I might try switching from Beta to basic and back to Beta next month to see what happens. Sorry for the runaround, guys, but I don't want to give you bad information.
 
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Keep us posted. I would definitely get the $5 extra sports package to get ESPNU and SECN. I'm wondering how that would fit in with the switching back and forth aspect?
 
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Has anyone used their own DVR or TiVo with either direct tv or cable yet? I called the cable company and they tell it won't work and that I have to lease theirs. I cancelled my direct tv a few months ago but they said the same thing.
 
[Edit:] I went in this weekend to confirm my subscriptions again. It looks like they have grandfathered my subscription to ESPN / ESPN 2 (and the other channels exclusive to the basic package) but that will end when the next billing cycle begins. That's why my account looked like I was subscribed to both packages when I checked the other day. They credited my account for the canceled basic package, though.

I'm unclear why this is happening. I changed packages on 6/12/16 so I have all available channels through 7/12/16. This might be a loophole in their subscription/billing that can be exploited by simply changing packages every month. More testing is probably in order, so I might try switching from Beta to basic and back to Beta next month to see what happens. Sorry for the runaround, guys, but I don't want to give you bad information.
Hmm, this may change things for me (another factor is I have to get a quote from Comcast on how much no-cap, fast-speed internet will be if I removed the cable bundle), but at the worst, if I can no longer get ESPN / ESPN2 on the beta package, I can still always keep a fluid situation where I switch back and forth and it switches more or less instantaneously, right? If so, and if it's instantaneous (or takes a couple minutes or something easy), then there's no problem. But I have to think Sling TV would get very annoyed with that and would put some sort of cap on it how many times you can switch back and forth.

Luckily, I don't move until the end of July, so I can wait until 7/12 when you find out more information when your bill resets.
 
...if I can no longer get ESPN / ESPN2 on the beta package, I can still always keep a fluid situation where I switch back and forth and it switches more or less instantaneously, right?
Yes, it's instantaneous. But my recommendation is to use the Watch ESPN app. I watched the entire NBA Finals (which were on ABC) using the app, which includes everything broadcast across the ESPN family of networks.
This just got confusing to the point where I'll probably just say F it and keep my crap.
Please see above. Basically, do this:

- subscribe to Sling TV's Beta package
- watch ESPN broadcasts using the app

That's it.
 
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