De-Fund the U.N. - NOW!
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Unlike you, I'm a leader in both my private and professional life. You know nothing about me, and clearly less about the world around you. I think for myself. Refute my assertions with facts, lose the insults, or stfu.
I know you from what you post here. You're about as indoctrinated and obedient as they come.
I don't want followers. I want people to lead themselves and follow no one. People who pride themselves as leaders, and call themselves leaders, aren't leaders at all.
Refute your OPINIONS? Refute your inability to see a behavior or practice that is immoral, or at the very least the antithesis of The Golden Rule, and not have the instnct to dissent against it? Instead, you OBEY it because someone else said it was "The Law." What a cop-out. You're someone who is immersed in jingoistic pride. Someone who believes that "their country" is superior to every other country? Someone who is threatened by every religion, government, culture and social action that is different from yours, and sees them as a threat to your very existence? You're swimming in fear. There's no way to refute that. And, no amount of personal compliments to yourself, or testimonials of who you "really are" will change that.
The UN is trash. Siphons money and gets absolutely nothing done. Their defense of Israeli policy is an effing joke. They couldn't care less about Americas power in the world.
Any American who likes the UN can roll out of the country when Obama hits the pavement
What do you think the role of the UN is? What does "Americas power in the world" have to do with anything as far as the UN is concerned? I'm afraid a lot of Trump supporters just have no idea what they are talking about.
He's saying that the UN is a lousy organization because it is inefficient and does not align with America's interests.
Why do you believe that the UN is a good thing for America and her citizens?
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I don't think it is a good thing in some ways but what you posted is not what he said. I'm beginning to see a trend where some Trump supporters are having to explain what he and others REALLY meant because what he said makes no sense at all.
No. You are wrong. That is exactly what he said. You just chose to make it something else so you can avoid having to defend your position and instead make character attacks.
You have a habit of thinking that people who disagree with you are not smart or otherwise enlightened.
That's just not true. I disagree with you on a lot of things but I don't think you're stupid. His remark about America's power in the world makes no sense at all. I asked him to explain and he never replied back.
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which means the UN doesn't care about American power. Another way of saying it is that the UN doesn't care if America is weak or strong.
How does this not make sense? Do you not think it is in America's best interests to be the most powerful country in the world in every possible way?
I have never thought about the role of the UN being to make any country the most powerful in the world
It's to give all an equal voice at the world's table. "Most powerful" is an ego-driven self interest concept. Dictators have a similar motivation... to be the most powerful.
We're all ONE TRIBE.
It's not. The role of the UN, at least since the Cold War ended, has been to attempt to equalize all powers.
Most powerful nation means benefits for the citizens of that nation. I would much rather be a citizen of the most powerful than least powerful country.
Sure, we are all one tribe. With many sub-tribes. And some of those sub-tribes work against the entire tribe's interests. When that happens, someone needs to knock them into line or minimize that sub-tribe's counter productive efforts.
So if you agree to a point, then you agree that at least on some levels, the UN is attempting to lessen the US's power while increasing the power other of other nations.
Which is pretty much what most Trump supporters think.
Glad to see I am finally making headway.
As long as people think in those terms, we guarantee the inevitable extinction of the species. Just a failed mutation.
People will always think in these terms. The only thing that would bring us to one tribe is an attack from aliens and even that wouldn't work, as you know that some sub-tribes would try to side with the aliens in exchange for future benefits.
Basically what you are saying that if anyone disagrees with your opinion, the whole civilization will collapse. So unless you (and people who agree with you) can assert your power and force everyone to subscribe to the "One Tribe Philosophy", the human race will cease to exist.
So we all need to bow down to your way of thinking or die, right?
Eventually, it will become extinct, and it will come by its own hand. It's not a threat, just a fact. I'm not saying it to gain power. I'm just saying it's an inevitability.
No, you made a threat- "follow my beliefs or go extinct".
However it is in no way, shape or form a fact. It is an opinionated prediction in every sense of the phrase.
And you are saying it to gain power- you are attempting to influence people to behave in a certain way so that the world will be a better place for you.
So if I tell you that if you smoke for 30 years it is going to hurt your health
I am threatening you?
And there is an abundance of research to prove this. Please provide research on the last time humans went extinct.
There is an abundance of research on global warming too........
Find one scientist who agrees that climate change models are accurate. I will wait for that link.
Man made climate change may or may not be real. I have no idea.
Just because you type this drivel does not make it true. You prove yourself more clueless with every weak, hackneyed psychoanalysis you attempt. Your stupidity is clearly unbounded, and you're poor attempts at virtue signaling fool no one. You are the one desperate for approval and desperate to show that you are one of the "good" people.
Enjoy reveling in your ignorance. I fear nothing except the possibility of people like you infecting others
Maybe you took it as a threat. I didn't intend for it to be. As was stated before, warning you that certain behaviors lead to certain outcomes isn't a show of force. You're free to ignore it.
Keep trying to remedy violence with more violence. It's working exactly the way it should.
I will concede to influence. Influence is not control. And, frankly, "power" is measured in peculiar ways, and identified in even stranger ways. It's a sometimes misleading concept.
I'm not sure you understand the definition of threat. You made a threat. You don't have to personally threaten someone in order to make a threat.
Sometimes short term corrections are necessary. If someone is acting violently and won't respond to any pleas, arguments, logic, etc, then the only recourse is to respond with violence in order to contain the initial aggressor and keep others from being hurt by his actions.
Successfully influencing another is an example of power.
Um... okay. Can someone feel threatened by something that's not a threat TO THEM? Sure.
And, it guarantees more violence. Crisis averted... not. Keep trying to cure violence with more violence.
71, that's the only reply I could think of that wouldn't be insulting. Let's drop it.
Why stop insulting now? You have been doing so for a while and especially since Trump won.
Responsive violence does not guarantee more violence. Your assertion to the contrary requires many bogus assumptions in order to be true.
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