new sheriff in town, things are already going much differently than the last 8 years...
DOJ/FBI (Re-)Opening Clinton Uranium One, Email Server and Pay-To-Play Scheme Investigations
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Oh yeah, shits just dandy up in Washington.
The blind devotion to Trump from his supporters never ceases to amaze me.
I'll wager $100 that absolutely nothing becomes of this new inquiry on Clinton . . . and I'll give it 18 months to be proven that she is guilty.
This is only another Trump Distraction, to avoid the conspiracy and collusion investigation between Russia and himself. It's Trump's MO plain and simple, it's his only go to option . . and he pulls it every time. The man thinks the DOJ and the FBI are there to serve and protect him and him only . . LMFAO at this dimwitted assclown.
Do you wanna make that bet with me . . ?
This is only another Trump Distraction, to avoid the conspiracy and collusion investigation between Russia and himself. It's Trump's MO plain and simple, it's his only go to option . . and he pulls it every time. The man thinks the DOJ and the FBI are there to serve and protect him and him only . . LMFAO at this dimwitted assclown.
Do you wanna make that bet with me . . ?
I'm not a blind supporter. I think he's done plenty of stupid things. He should have fired Comey on DAY ONE! Both sides wanted Comey's head and it would not have been a problem. He should have insisted on a Special Counsel to look into Clit-on DAY ONE, including the obvious domestic spying on his campaign! He should have done tax cuts first, then the use of NSA and CIA to conduct domestic spying, then illegal immigration, or maybe maobama care third or fourth. I don't have a problem with his tweets since that must be considered in the context of the 90-95% negative coverage he's received over the last 18 months...
I’m sure you don’t mind the nuclear button dick measuring contest he just engaged in with North Korea. At this rate, your handle name could be a self fulfilling prophecy.
This post also proves you know very little about politics in general.
Firing Comey was the stupidest thing that POUTUS could possibly do . . asking for Comey's loyalty was the 2nd biggest.
Those were 2 Fredo moves . .
#ownworstenemy
Are you old enough to remember during Reagan's first term when the left accused Reagan of being unfit for the office, intellectually incapable of understanding foreign and defense policy, a deranged cowboy bent on getting into a nuclear war with the USSR? Just before his weekly Saturday radio address he was caught on a hot mic saying that the bombs would fall in three minutes? It was half a joke, half psychological warfare against the USSR. Look it up. Ultimately, Reagan's defense and foreign policies brought the Kremlin down. I view the "button" comment along the same lines aimed at both North Korea and China. Notice that after those comments, North Korea contacted South Korean to reopen the dormant hot line and to talk about the Olympics?
It works like this . . if, she goes to jail I pay. If not, then you owe me.
Nothing proves it to you.
You're not objective. You don't know how to be objective. And, I don't mean occasionally, like most people. I mean... ever.
Do not compare Reagan to Trump. The two are night and day.
Really? Why not? In what ways do you see them differently?
I just wanted to know how you're going to get my $100 bucks to me when you lose.
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Why not?!?!?!
Few people thought former Hollywood star Ronald Reagan could ever become president — until he was elected twice.
Few people thought business mogul Donald Trump could be a serious presidential candidate — until he shot to the top of most polls amid a crowded GOP field.
Here are 15 things The Donald has in common with The Gipper.
1. Like Reagan, Trump is a Washington outsider. Reagan was twice elected governor of California but never served in Congress. Trump has never held political office. And then as now, being an outsider is a virtue to voters who desperately want change.
2. Reagan was dismissed as a serious candidate, and so was Trump. "The establishment critics said the exact same things about Reagan," Jeffrey Lord, a former Reagan aide who is close to the Trump campaign, told The Telegraph. "Reagan was ridiculed as 'not serious' and a B-movie actor, and they said over and over he could never win — until he did. It's happening again. I really feel it." The media questioned Reagan's competency to be POTUS just as they are questioning Trump's competency now.
3. Trump and Reagan were both attacked by the establishment as being extreme and simplistic. Yet people were so fed up with the state of the country under Jimmy Carter that Reagan beat him in a landslide. As Trump's showing in the polls demonstrates, people are once again fed up with establishment politics.
4. Trump shares Reagan's "passion" for what he believes in. Reagan son's Michael Reagan recently told Newsmax that Trump speaks with the kind of passion his father so brilliantly conveyed. "That's why America right now has surrounded Trump, in this case, because he's off the cuff and he speaks from his own passion."
5. Trump espouses similar views as Reagan on illegal immigration. Trump created controversy — and won support from many — for his outspoken comments about illegal immigration and the lack of border security. Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986, making it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit illegal immigrants and requiring employers to attest to their employees' immigration status.
6. Trump is a straight-talker, like Reagan. He doesn't hide behind political correctness, as his comments about illegal immigration demonstrate. Reagan talked to people from the heart and was dubbed The Great Communicator.
7. Trump began as a Democrat before becoming a Republican. Reagan, too, was initially a liberal Democrat, but he backed Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon and went on to register as a Republican in 1964.
8. Trump, like Reagan, has been a TV star. Reagan hosted "General Electric Theater" in the 1950s and "Death Valley Days" in the 1960s. Trump found TV stardom with "The Apprentice" and "Celebrity Apprentice."
9. Trump seeks to follow in Reagan's footsteps and succeed a liberal, big-government Democratic president. And Barack Obama is even further to the left than Jimmy Carter was.
10. Trump and Reagan both opposed runaway public employees' unions. Trump told Bill O'Reilly that he thought Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is "doing what's right for his state" by reining in public workers' unions. Reagan in August 1981 fired more than 11,000 air traffic controllers after they went on strike in violation of a federal law barring government unions from striking.
11. Trump shares Reagan's overall aim as president: to make America great again. Trump said he began the process of trademarking the slogan "Make America Great Again" and criticized some of his GOP opponents for using it. Reagan prominently featured the slogan on his campaign materials.
12. Trump favors tax reduction, as did Reagan. The reduction in tax rates championed by "Reaganomics" sought to spur economic growth. Trump has called for a repeal of the estate tax, the lowering of taxes on capital gains and dividends, and reducing the corporate tax rate to zero to spur job growth.
13. Trump, like Reagan, is pro-life. In 1982, Reagan stated: "Simple morality dictates that unless and until someone can prove the unborn human is not alive, we must give it the benefit of the doubt and assume it is (alive). And, thus, it should be entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Trump said in April 2011 that he was pro-life after years of being pro-choice.
14. Trump and Reagan both have defended gun rights and the Second Amendment. Reagan in 1986 signed the Firearm Owners Protection Act, which among other things ended federal records-keeping on ammunition sales. He said if we give up "that part of the Constitution" that is the Second Amendment, "we give up part of our freedom and increase the chances that we will lose it all." Trump told Breitbart News in April: "It is so important that we maintain the Second Amendment and that we maintain it strongly. And one of the main reasons is because the good people, the upstanding people, follow laws and norms, but the bad ones don't."
15. Reagan was the first president who had been divorced. President Trump would be the second. Reagan divorced Jane Wyman before marrying Nancy Davis in 1952. Donald and Ivana Trump divorced and he went on to wed Marla Maples in 1993 and Melania Knauss in 2004.
@Nuk'EM Heels
Their attitudes and styles are completely different. Reagan had at least been the governor of the largest state in the union. Trump had no experience. Reagan appealed to people using hope and positivity as part of his message, not anger and blame. And Reagan was not a thin skinned ego maniac who would engage in pissing matches with anyone who insulted or disagreed with him.
Reagan had the competency of a statesman. He was not short of temper and could communicate with his opponents effectively with a well timed sense of humor.
Ideological similarities does not make the two men similar in conduct and character.
Their attitudes and styles are completely different. Reagan had at least been the governor of the largest state in the union. Trump had no experience. Reagan appealed to people using hope and positivity as part of his message, not anger and blame. And Reagan was not a thin skinned ego maniac who would engage in pissing matches with anyone who insulted or disagreed with him.
Reagan had the competency of a statesman. He was not short of temper and could communicate with his opponents effectively with a well timed sense of humor.
Ideological similarities does not make the two men similar in conduct and character.
Dude, most of those can apply to any republican and some can apply to democrats. What's next? Are you going to tell us they are alike because both of them wear shoes?
I'd say that Reagan had a wee bit more verbal style, tact, and generally well-mannered. Reagan wasn't as much of a total needle-dick, machismo-driven, perpetual-adolescent that never got enough approbation as a child as Mr. Trump.
But, there are some striking similarities, too. Their celebrity backgrounds, their dementia as they aged, their not knowing shit from shinola when it comes to government.
But, there are some striking similarities, too. Their celebrity backgrounds, their dementia as they aged, their not knowing shit from shinola when it comes to government.
You have a very naive and shallow argument. You pick style over substance. And, you're factually wrong on a number of counts:
1) You're wrong about the anger part - Reagan tapped into anger over the state of the economy under Carter to win in 1980 just as Trump tapped into anger over the economy to win in 2016.
2) As far as pissing matches, well... 2016 was a much different time than 1980. First, the DEM party has become the DUM party, completely incapable of compromise and devoid of substantive policy ideas. The DUMs of today are all about "resistance", they aren't just insulting or disagreeable. In 1982 and 1986, many DEMs were able to bring themselves to voting for tax cuts. Today, NOT A SINGLE DUM VOTED FOR TAX CUTS!!! And, the DUMs and their MSM allies blatantly and flagrantly LIED about the benefits of the tax cuts to those angry, blue collar Trump voters as a way to justify their NO votes. No amount of humor, communication, or statesmanship would sway them from their intransigence. They will be held to account for those votes in 2018 and 2020.
3) Reagan wasn't considered a statesman by the MSM or DEMs when he was elected or at any time during his first term. In fact, DEMs said the exact same things about Reagan in his first term as the DEMs are saying now about Trump. Most DEMs opposed Reagan's defense spending increases and his foreign policy, alleging that Reagan was going to start a nuclear war with the USSR. His tough talk regarding the USSR scared the hell out of DEMs back then, just as Trump's tough talk on North Korea is scaring the hell out of DUMs now.
4)Teddy Kennedy tried to get the Soviets to help DEMs delegitimize Reagan in 1984 and pleaded with them not to work with Reagan on Strategic and IRBM reductions in order to harm him politically in the 1984 election. Likewise, the DUMs in 2016 conspired to influence the 2016 election by using Perkins Coie to hire Fusion GPS who hired Christopher Steele to obtain disinformation/misinformation from Russian intelligence to torpedo the Trump POTUS campaign and later to delegitimize Trump's presidency.
I wonder if "The Right" will glorify Trump like they've glorified Reagan. I still don't get the deifying of Ronald Reagan, but they act like the guy was Moses or some shit.
Huh? He wasn't that much of a political outsider. He did previously serve two terms as Governor of California, after all.
I can understand people not liking aspects of the Reagan presidency. But he was not an ego manical lunatic.
The left and their media allies laugh at any attempt to compare President Trump with former President Ronald Reagan, but there are many similarities, not the least of which are the withering attacks both men endured while running for and as president.
The extraordinary assaults by media, celebrities and jealous politicians against Mr. Trump have been unending. Their attacks include questioning his mental health, comparing him to Hitler (over and over and over again), declaring him a fascist, insisting he’s a modern-day Manchurian candidate, that he’s a traitor (because Russians!), and on and on.
The striking thing about the nature of the attacks is that they’re all personal. They are accusations meant to instill in the listener a sense of danger, provoking an existential fear of the president of the United States.
Now why would someone want to do that? And what could possibly be the result of creating that toxic environment?
Mr. Reagan withstood similar vitriol by the same and usual suspects. The Sun newspaper quoted author Steven Hayward’s recollection of the rhetoric against Mr. Reagan: “Democratic Rep. William Clay of Missouri charged that Reagan was “trying to replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.”
The Los Angeles Times cartoonist Paul Conrad drew a panel depicting Reagan plotting a fascist putsch in a darkened Munich beer hall. Harry Stein (later a conservative convert) wrote in Esquire that the voters who supported Reagan were like the “good Germans” in “Hitler’s Germany,” The Sun reported.
After being attacked relentlessly by fellow Republicans during the campaign, Hollywood making their condemnation known, and the media working overtime to demonize Mr. Reagan, it shouldn’t be surprising within 90 days of taking the oath of office, a lunatic shot the president.
The now-freed John Hinckley believed murdering Reagan would impress actress Jodie Foster. “I will admit to you that the reason I’m going ahead with this attempt now is because I just cannot wait any longer to impress you,” the attempted assassin wrote to Ms. Foster.
“I’ve got to do something now to make you understand in no uncertain terms that I am doing all of this for your sake …. Jodie, I’m asking you to please look into your heart and at least give me the chance with this historical deed to gain your respect and love,” concluded the letter, written just hours before he went to the Washington Hilton, shooting the president and several others.
At the time of the shooting, she was a 19-year-old student at Yale. But it’s arguable that the overall media environment had become so toxic, a man with an already tenuous relationship with reality thought shooting the president would be a good idea and appreciated. After all, Mr. Reagan was a doltish, unhinged fascist who would start World War III simply because he was dumb. And evil, of course.
Sound familiar?
The extraordinary assaults by media, celebrities and jealous politicians against Mr. Trump have been unending. Their attacks include questioning his mental health, comparing him to Hitler (over and over and over again), declaring him a fascist, insisting he’s a modern-day Manchurian candidate, that he’s a traitor (because Russians!), and on and on.
The striking thing about the nature of the attacks is that they’re all personal. They are accusations meant to instill in the listener a sense of danger, provoking an existential fear of the president of the United States.
Now why would someone want to do that? And what could possibly be the result of creating that toxic environment?
Mr. Reagan withstood similar vitriol by the same and usual suspects. The Sun newspaper quoted author Steven Hayward’s recollection of the rhetoric against Mr. Reagan: “Democratic Rep. William Clay of Missouri charged that Reagan was “trying to replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.”
The Los Angeles Times cartoonist Paul Conrad drew a panel depicting Reagan plotting a fascist putsch in a darkened Munich beer hall. Harry Stein (later a conservative convert) wrote in Esquire that the voters who supported Reagan were like the “good Germans” in “Hitler’s Germany,” The Sun reported.
After being attacked relentlessly by fellow Republicans during the campaign, Hollywood making their condemnation known, and the media working overtime to demonize Mr. Reagan, it shouldn’t be surprising within 90 days of taking the oath of office, a lunatic shot the president.
The now-freed John Hinckley believed murdering Reagan would impress actress Jodie Foster. “I will admit to you that the reason I’m going ahead with this attempt now is because I just cannot wait any longer to impress you,” the attempted assassin wrote to Ms. Foster.
“I’ve got to do something now to make you understand in no uncertain terms that I am doing all of this for your sake …. Jodie, I’m asking you to please look into your heart and at least give me the chance with this historical deed to gain your respect and love,” concluded the letter, written just hours before he went to the Washington Hilton, shooting the president and several others.
At the time of the shooting, she was a 19-year-old student at Yale. But it’s arguable that the overall media environment had become so toxic, a man with an already tenuous relationship with reality thought shooting the president would be a good idea and appreciated. After all, Mr. Reagan was a doltish, unhinged fascist who would start World War III simply because he was dumb. And evil, of course.
Sound familiar?
Is any attack on Trump just a left wing news conspiracy? Or can you actually think for yourself?
This left-wing news thing has been going for a very long time, at least back to the election of Richard Nixon. Would you like the entire history or do you want just recent history?
I assume you are referring to Reagan. Yes, of course. My point is that Reagan and Trump have many similarities. They are not EXACTLY the same. I assume you can understand that...
Yes, I DO know that. California governor from 67-75, I think.
I love it when people preface their statement with "you do realize..." or "you do know that..."
Don't condescend me, man... I'll fvckin' kill ya, man...
So Nixon was wrongly thrown out of office then?
Look I’m not saying I’m a huge fan of far left establishments, I’m not. But you can’t just blow off any criticism of Trump as left wing propaganda. Maybe he could be accountable for his own behavior instead of blaming everyone else. That’s what a good leader does.
If you continue to defend him using that same line of shit, you are intellectually lazy and proves you’re just as extreme as those you claim are the extremists.
That should be the least of your worries . . . LOL
My credit is excellent on this board. You win, you'll get your $ . .
SInce the subject of Regan came up, I knew his administration had been the most corrupt since Nixon. I did a little research, but only going back to LBJ:
When comparing criminal indictments of those serving in the executive branch of presidential administrations, it’s so lopsided as to be ridiculous. Yet all I ever hear about is how supposedly “corrupt” the Democrats are. So why don’t we break it down by president and the numbers?
Obama (D) – 8 yrs in office. Zero criminal indictments, zero convictions and zero prison sentences. So the next time somebody describes the Obama administration as “scandal free” they aren’t speaking wishfully, they’re simply telling the truth.
Bush, George W. (R) – 8 yrs in office. 16 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 9 prison sentences.
Clinton (D) – 8 yrs in office. 2 criminal indictments. One conviction. One prison sentence. That’s right nearly 8 yrs of investigations. Tens of millions spent and 30 yrs of claiming them the most corrupt ever and there was exactly one person convicted of a crime.
Bush, George H. W. (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. One conviction. One prison sentence.
Reagan (R) – 8 yrs in office. 26 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 8 prison sentences.
Carter (D) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. Zero convictions and zero prison sentences.
Ford (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment and one conviction. One prison sentence.
Nixon (R) – 6 yrs in office. 76 criminal indictments. 55 convictions. 15 prison sentences.
Johnson (D) – 5 yrs in office. Zero indictments. Zero convictions. Zero prison sentences.
When comparing criminal indictments of those serving in the executive branch of presidential administrations, it’s so lopsided as to be ridiculous. Yet all I ever hear about is how supposedly “corrupt” the Democrats are. So why don’t we break it down by president and the numbers?
Obama (D) – 8 yrs in office. Zero criminal indictments, zero convictions and zero prison sentences. So the next time somebody describes the Obama administration as “scandal free” they aren’t speaking wishfully, they’re simply telling the truth.
Bush, George W. (R) – 8 yrs in office. 16 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 9 prison sentences.
Clinton (D) – 8 yrs in office. 2 criminal indictments. One conviction. One prison sentence. That’s right nearly 8 yrs of investigations. Tens of millions spent and 30 yrs of claiming them the most corrupt ever and there was exactly one person convicted of a crime.
Bush, George H. W. (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. One conviction. One prison sentence.
Reagan (R) – 8 yrs in office. 26 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 8 prison sentences.
Carter (D) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment. Zero convictions and zero prison sentences.
Ford (R) – 4 yrs in office. One indictment and one conviction. One prison sentence.
Nixon (R) – 6 yrs in office. 76 criminal indictments. 55 convictions. 15 prison sentences.
Johnson (D) – 5 yrs in office. Zero indictments. Zero convictions. Zero prison sentences.
I didn't say Nixon shouldn't have resigned due to Watergate. I said the negative press started from the very beginning of his presidency in 1969. And, every GOP POTUS since then has faced the same on-slaught from liberal MSM - Nixon, Reagan, GHW Bush, GW Bush, and now Trump.
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