Duke/UVA

[Super6Fan]

I know our game is still very much going on and we gotta take care of business but this game is also a perplexing one.

Always want Duke to lose, but, for wins/losses purposes, what result would actually be better for us? A UVA loss or a Duke loss?

 

[RP12]

Screw dook

 

[RP12]

If we drop two to UVa we deserve to finish behind them

 

[UNC Blue Hup]

I think we'll beat Duke at home..probably split with UVA..although I think if we play well we can beat them there..Go Heels!

 

[BillyL]

Coach K with some halftime parting words for a ref . . . LMFAO. Just shut the fvck up Ratface, 'cause ain't nobody wanna hear your KryBaby bull$hit.

 

[Heelicious]

Dook got up 21 shots in 20 minutes in the first half. I know they had 8 TO's too, but with the 30 second shot clock, that low shot count should almost not be possible.

Safe bet that this game tape won't be sent straight to Naismith Hall of Fame. 21-25 at half, good guys. But that's a score and pace that even the Big 10 would call ugly.

And li'l Miss Anger Issues is 1-7; 1-4 from 3. Still burns me that he played so well against us.

 

[RP12]

I guess "crossover" is catchier than "dook homer crew".

 

[2DDIMOND]

I think that if dook wins this game they are going to win the ACC regular season. Wake could've stepped on their throat but now they're back I'm afraid.

 

[tarheel0910]

I know our game is still very much going on and we gotta take care of business but this game is also a perplexing one.

Always want Duke to lose, but, for wins/losses purposes, what result would actually be better for us? A UVA loss or a Duke loss?

A duke loss is always better. When duke loses America wins.

 

[2DDIMOND]

A. Never pull for dook

B. We don't want UVA coming in off a loss

C. Never pull for dook.

 

[keysersosay#1]

Well UK east won it thanks to some three point bombs by Tatum. Honestly if the 3 point shot was never invented, Vader would have won about 50 games That team ALWAYS relies on someone hot from there.

 

[strummingram]

dookie is hitting their stride at exactly the right time. Tatum is becoming a force. They already have the other components except for a big, low-post guy. But, they will be very hard to beat from here on out.

 

[Archer2]

dook possesses more talent than any team not named UK. So of course they will be a tough out. There's a reason they were the unanimous pick for preseason number one. TBS, they still live and die by the three, despite having a ton of talented big men. And they play mediocre defense. I don't think they'll make the Final Four.

 

[trimbornunc86]

If anyone has been watching the last 4-5 Duke games, its hard not to see that Tatum is really starting to come into his own right now, he won them that game late with a number of 3's. Have to be fair, a Tatum, Allen, Kennard team is something that many teams dont want to see in the tournament

 

[Archer2]

If anyone has been watching the last 4-5 Duke games, its hard not to see that Tatum is really starting to come into his own right now, he won them that game late with a number of 3's. Have to be fair, a Tatum, Allen , Kennard team is something that many teams dont want to see in the tournament

They shoot the three well, but it's hard to go all the way living by the three. Especially when you don't rebound or defend particularly well. Guard the three and make them beat you in the paint, it isn't rocket science.

 

[DSouthr]

They shoot the three well, but it's hard to go all the way living by the three. Especially when you don't rebound or defend particularly well. Guard the three and make them beat you in the paint, it isn't rocket science.

Yeah, duke is in that mode I feared we were slipping in to in that they rely way to much on getting great outside shooting. They are hard to take when those long jumpers are falling because they have 4 guys that can step out and nail them but at least 2 of those guys have to get red hot for most of their games or they get in to trouble. if they do not get the red hot outside shooting their only real plan B is for one of their guards to drive and either get the bail out or finish. They are not a great passing team, not a great ball handing team and they just do not do a great job of working the ball inside to their bigs even thou pre-season it was supposed to be their big men that they would feature. Now it is Tatum outside and either pulling up for the jumper or trying to drive and Kennard & tripper looking for spot up ops.

Problem with those long jumpers is some games they fall and some they don't, you a hard out when they fall but not so much when they don't without a solid front court game. beating duke to me the key is contain Kennard and Tripper, if Tatum wants to take jumper take them, he is not going to beat you by himself but you have to go get the long rebounds.

 

[GoDukeDevils]

Duke has scored 31% of the teams points from 3pt range. The national average is 30%.

Duke hasnt been relying on the 3 this year. Over the past few games, the team has been fairly hot and its been a very effective shot.

 

[nctransplant]

Duke has scored 31% of the teams points from 3pt range. The national average is 30%.

Duke hasnt been relying on the 3 this year. Over the past few games, the team has been fairly hot and its been a very effective shot.

They rely a lot on the WWE technique.

 

[tarheel0910]

Duke has scored 31% of the teams points from 3pt range. The national average is 30%.

Duke hasnt been relying on the 3 this year. Over the past few games, the team has been fairly hot and its been a very effective shot.

Interesting stat. What's the percentage of their shot attempts that have been threes? That would probably be a little more accurate as to how much they rely on the three. I'm not trying to say there is going to be a huge difference, but I wonder if their average and the national average would be about the same.

 

[Archer2]

dook will go as far as their 3-pt shooting takes them. Mark my words.

 

[bleeduncblue]

But, they will be very hard to beat from here on out.

I agree, in the Regular Season. Still dont think they're a FF team due to a gaping hole in the post both offensively and rebounding. They'll go as far as the 3 pointers take them.

 

[DSouthr]

Duke has scored 31% of the teams points from 3pt range. The national average is 30%.

Duke hasnt been relying on the 3 this year. Over the past few games, the team has been fairly hot and its been a very effective shot.

Well thank you for that stat but here is where that stat falls apart...

1) So I suppose duke is pounding it inside to their big men, I guess that is why jefferson/Giles/Botden scoring numbers have been so impressive?

2) I guess that is why the treys from your dukies were such a small factor in you win against us, did ya see that game? Sure looked like they relied on the trey to beat us to my eyes...

3) It isn't just taking and making treys, it is just as much the threat of making treys from guys that make them consistently. Duke wants to spread you out and drive, NC State wants to do the same thing. Difference is you have to respect the duke kick back to spot up shooters and with the wuffs you don't. You can collapse more on the wuff wuff drivers but do that to a dukie driver and he hits Kennard or Tripster or even Tatum.

Couple weeks ago you dukies were fussing about Tatum driving the ball and never looking to kick it back outside, your fans were calling him a black hole and your team was what 1 out of 4 then?

Excuse me but yes, your team does rely on the treys as much now as they always do because it is your best attack and it sets up your ability to drive a spread out defense. Duke is very beatable when they do not take and make treys, they are hard to take out when they nail them because it sets everything else up.

 

[bleeduncblue]

I dont care what their 3 point shooting stats are, you can watch 5 minutes of any game and recognize that they have no inside game at all. They depend on the drive-and-kick, resulting in 3 point shots and long rebounds OR the many fouls called on the opponents. They are talented and well coached, but very one dimensional.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I dont care what their 3 point shooting stats are, you can watch 5 minutes of any game and recognize that they have no inside game at all. They depend on the drive-and-kick, resulting in 3 point shots and long rebounds OR the many fouls called on the opponents. They are talented and well coached, but very one dimensional.

I agree. But I knew duke righting the ship was inevitable and I held firm on my prediction that they would finish top 3 in the ACC. Don't look now, but if we slip up, they could win it.

With that said, you have to have quality PG play and quality rebounding to win in the tournament. They don't have that. They have an abundance of wing scorers and that can mask problems for a while. But they're not a complete team...at all. If they stay super hot shooting the ball, it may not matter but ultimately, I too think a cold shooting game will be their undoing.

 

[bleeduncblue]

I agree. But I knew duke righting the ship was inevitable and I held firm on my prediction that they would finish top 3 in the ACC. Don't look now, but if we slip up, they could win it.

Yep, during their losing stretch I told a couple dook buddies "UNC fans are enjoying this, as we should, but in the end, dook will fix this stuff and be the top 5 team they were predicted to be."

 

[DSouthr]

I agree. But I knew duke righting the ship was inevitable and I held firm on my prediction that they would finish top 3 in the ACC. Don't look now, but if we slip up, they could win it.

With that said, you have to have quality PG play and quality rebounding to win in the tournament. They don't have that. They have an abundance of wing scorers and that can mask problems for a while. But they're not a complete team...at all. If they stay super hot shooting the ball, it may not matter but ultimately, I too think a cold shooting game will be their undoing.

Yeah, the real problem duke has is that they just do not have that big time inside presence, they rely on jump shooting and get by with a committee inside. That jump shooting can be there one game and disappear the next but when Kennard & Tripper are not hitting them they become really average.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

They also live at the line. An Allen is a real trip.

 

[Archer2]

Yep, during their losing stretch I told a couple dook buddies "UNC fans are enjoying this, as we should, but in the end, dook will fix this stuff and be the top 5 team they were predicted to be."

They simply have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much talent not to. It was inevitable they would bounce back.