Raymond Felton and Theo Pinson point to PG...

[gary-7]

To Felton's point... EC has to know his personnel. He should know the strengths and weaknesses of his team on the court. As a PG that's part of his job.

Sorry, but I honestly can't believe we're even talking about hamstringing a passing savant.

For the record, Ray averaged 3.6 TOs for his career. and was over 3/game all three seasons he was here. Why?... Because he was aggressive as a play-maker and creator and that was part of his mojo --- as it is wth Eliot. But, let's also get real here --- the simple FACT is that Eliot has to work way harder and take more chances to create offense for this supporting cast than Ray ever had to with his.

Quite frankly, to Ray and Theo, lemme say this in no uncerain terms: As much as I love you guys, scapegoating Eliot is utter nonsense -- and even more frankly, the culprits you two alums need to be pointing at are your alum brethren on the damn bench.

Come on, guys. I mean, I'm pulling for this staff as hard as you are, but perhaps if you two and more alums would call out the staff's mistakes in straying from the Carolina system, they would listen (for their own good).

 

[ACokeForRoy]

Sorry, but I honestly can't believe we're even talking about hamstringing a passing savant.

For the record, Ray averaged 3.6 TOs for his career. and was over 3/game all three seasons he was here. Why?... Because he was aggressive as a play-maker and creator and that was part of his mojo --- as it is wth Eliot. But, let's also get real here --- the simple FACT is that Eliot has to work way harder and take more chances to create offense for this supporting cast than Ray ever had to with his.

Quite frankly, to Ray and Theo, lemme say this in no uncerain terms: As much as I love you guys, scapegoating Eliot is utter nonsense -- and even more frankly, the culprits you two alums need to be pointing at are your alum brethren on the damn bench.

Come on, guys. I mean, I'm pulling for this staff as hard as you are, but perhaps if you two and more alums would call out the staff's mistakes in straying from the Carolina system, they would listen (for their own good).

" Eliot has to work way harder and take more chances to create offense".... Its the taking chances that's the issue. It appears to be the same chances over and over and its failing. Trying to bully over much taller and stronger players time and time again is a recipe for failure. At what point do you realize, this doesn't work for me.. let me adjust.. how about a nice floater instead. Okay this pick and roll to player X doesn't yield much success and creates turnovers.... let me adjust where I go with the ball. I don't think they were scapegoating EC nor was I but those things stand out to me. I see EC make the same mistakes over and over. Its decision making.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Come on, guys. I mean, I'm pulling for this staff as hard as you are, but perhaps if you two and more alums would call out the staff's mistakes in straying from the Carolina system, they would listen (for their own good).

Or get us some primo players up front.

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

" Eliot has to work way harder and take more chances to create offense".... Its the taking chances that's the issue. It appears to be the same chances over and over and its failing. Trying to bully over much taller and stronger players time and time again is a recipe for failure. At what point do you realize, this doesn't work for me.. let me adjust.. how about a nice floater instead. Okay this pick and roll to player X doesn't yield much success and creates turnovers.... let me adjust where I go with the ball. I don't think they were scapegoating EC nor was I but those things stand out to me. I see EC make the same mistakes over and over. Its decision making.

Exactly none of what he posted has anything to do with making fundamental plays as a PG.

EC just plays has no concept of controlling the game.

 

[notashelbyfan]

Cadeau this year does not have a legit big man to feed the ball. He also does not have consistent 3pt shooting support to help his driving game.

This off season Davis or whoever is our coach will need 2 more big men outside Wilson coming in and 2 more 3pt shooters or else it could be a long season.

I seriously doubt anyone wants Cadeau to leave us and we rely on a green FR at PG.

I don't disagree but really do we know what Jwash could do if they would ever just throw him the ball on the block with his back to the basket and see what he might do?

Im not sure there have been more than 5 times this year that we have moved the ball around the key and threw an entry pass to someone posted up.

It may not work but what's the worse that could happen, him turning the it over we do that at a big enough clip so what's a couple more?

 

[rexerdog]

I don't disagree but really do we know what Jwash could do if they would ever just throw him the ball on the block with his back to the basket and see what he might do?

Im not sure there have been more than 5 times this year that we have moved the ball around the key and threw an entry pass to someone posted up.

It may not work but what's the worse that could happen, him turning the it over we do that at a big enough clip so what's a couple more?

he was pretty good from the post where he would face up, hit the pull up from 10-15 feet. Hadn’t seen that all year!

 

[NorCalTarheel]

Im not sure there have been more than 5 times this year that we have moved the ball around the key and threw an entry pass to someone posted up.

It may not work but what's the worse that could happen, him turning the it over we do that at a big enough clip so what's a couple more?

You may have missed the second Pitt game, but that is exactly how we started the game and how we built a lead. Post entry passes to Lubin over and over again. Why we abandoned that, other than because it worked, I have no idea. Lubin was not bigger nor better than any of the Pitt post players, yet it worked. Not sure I've seen a post entry pass before or since.

 

[notashelbyfan]

You may have missed the second Pitt game, but that is exactly how we started the game and how we built a lead. Post entry passes to Lubin over and over again. Why we abandoned that, other than because it worked, I have no idea. Lubin was not bigger nor better than any of the Pitt post players, yet it worked. Not sure I've seen a post entry pass before or since.

You are correct i didnt get to watch it.

 

[KeeLo]

I'd love to see more interior to exterior movement. Makes the defense have to account for their man in front and the ball behind.

At Wake (I commented on it here too) I saw 2 possessions where the Heels put the ball in the C/PF hands at the FT line while everyone else moved. It worked both times, yielding excellent in-flow plays and scores. I didn't see it anymore.

 

[dtodd4475]

You may have missed the second Pitt game, but that is exactly how we started the game and how we built a lead. Post entry passes to Lubin over and over again. Why we abandoned that, other than because it worked, I have no idea. Lubin was not bigger nor better than any of the Pitt post players, yet it worked. Not sure I've seen a post entry pass before or since.

To me that was a direct coaching adjustment on Pitt's switch on everything from the first matchup. When Lubin got the rock he had guards on him. Vast majority was on switches. Clemson was not doing, that at all, just show. No mismatch in the paint to dump into.

 

[notashelbyfan]

To me that was a direct coaching adjustment on Pitt's switch on everything from the first matchup. When Lubin got the rock he had guards on him. Vast majority was on switches. Clemson was not doing, that at all, just show. No mismatch in the paint to dump into.

I just want to see Jwash get the ball on the block with his back to the basket, and see what happens.