Emory students need counseling because of Trump

[Raising Heel]

Its a damn shame that the person who has finally had the nuts to bring these issues to the forefront happens to be a bozo that half the country doesn't take seriously, so they therefore don't take the issues seriously. Maybe someone who is a little less "off the cuff" or insulting than Trump will run in the future and give these issues the proper light without all the extra garbage that comes along with Trump.

We definitely agree here. I happen to be someone who wants illegal immigration dealt with. Just wish it could be done without all the inflammatory rhetoric, which actually might push us farther away from a solution.

 

[Raising Heel]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/1...htening-toll-illegal-immigrant-criminals.html

Appreciate the link, but I don't consider Fox News a reliable source of data analytics. Relying on a "patchwork of local, state and federal statistics" immediately raises a red flag about data quality and data integrity. Also, saying that "experts agree those figures have almost certainly risen" is anecdotal at best.

The article does do a good job pointing out the massive failure of government to properly track crime statistics, specifically those involving illegals. The same issue comes up every time there's a police shooting since apparently that data isn't closely tracked either. The disparate information systems across local, county, state, and federal law enforcement surely make it a difficult task but I'd love to see Congress pass a law that forces some sort of standardization on data collection methodology and reporting.

 

[UNC71-00]

Again, it's not about being offensive. It's about being full of shit.

Is there one single politician at the federal level that isn't full of shit? Just one?

Nope. So I don't care about Trump being so too. And I absolutely love that he makes the entire establishment go bat shit crazy. Unfortunately, he will tone it down when he is president. Still a million times better than Hilldawg though.

 

[tarheel0910]

Appreciate the link, but I don't consider Fox News a reliable source of data analytics. Relying on a "patchwork of local, state and federal statistics" immediately raises a red flag about data quality and data integrity. Also, saying that "experts agree those figures have almost certainly risen" is anecdotal at best.

The article does do a good job pointing out the massive failure of government to properly track crime statistics, specifically those involving illegals. The same issue comes up every time there's a police shooting since apparently that data isn't closely tracked either. The disparate information systems across local, county, state, and federal law enforcement surely make it a difficult task but I'd love to see Congress pass a law that forces some sort of standardization on data collection methodology and reporting.

I don't trust any news outlet, but I distrust them the least. I understand your point though. It's hard to find good data on this stuff for the reasons you mentioned. I don't think the people who can track this information (the government) wants to track it. No matter what the number is they will come out looking bad.

 

[TarHeelNation11]

I think it's delusional to think that people who aren't doing so hot in Mexico that they need to illegally cross into the USA are all of a sudden becoming model citizens (haha... get it, cuz they're not citizens). Are they all drug traffickers, rapists, and things of that nature? No. But absolutely every single one of them are criminals by definition - they are illegally in the country (with the point to the passer, @gunslingerdick )

Some, maybe even most of them, may be decent upstanding people that are just looking to better their situation in the USA. There's so much inherently wrong with being illegal that makes it necessary to prevent them from being in the country. They don't pay taxes but they still use services paid for by taxes. They can't get driver's licenses - how do we know they are properly trained on how to operate a car? Along that same vein they can't get vehicle insurance, so if they t-bone you - you're paying for that. They can't get Health Insurance. They can't get proper jobs because you're not allowed to hire illegal immigrants. Therefore, the two options are that they're partaking in crime/drug related stuff that can get them money, or they're taking very low paying under the table jobs. Either way - they can't set up bank accounts or ever be linked to any money whatsoever. They can break/steal all your stuff and you have no recourse to get anything back.

Listen, I'm not worshiping at the feet of The Donald, and I readily admit that he's a blowhard that makes stuff up all the time, and frequently goes way over the top for effect and is a walking punchline. However a lot of the underlying problems that he addresses are HUGE problems that have been compounding for years/decades now - that this country as gotten to the point of being too afraid or naive to mention (let alone combat). Its a damn shame that the person who has finally had the nuts to bring these issues to the forefront happens to be a bozo that half the country doesn't take seriously, so they therefore don't take the issues seriously. Maybe someone who is a little less "off the cuff" or insulting than Trump will run in the future and give these issues the proper light without all the extra garbage that comes along with Trump.

We can agree on that - but I think it's at least a start that he's mentioning the problems. As opposed to the rest of the Republican party who are too afraid to mention those problems, or the Democratic party, who refuse to acknowledge that those problems even exist.

Just call @Hark_The_Sound_2010 UPS because he's delivering on this thread.