Extremely quick stuff (Wake game)...

[gary-7]

...and this is one I can't blame the coaching staff for.

This really is gonna be extremely quick:

- You want a game summary? Ok: We defended them into shitty looks all night, but they hit just enough of them.

- Meanwhile, we got consistently great looks all night, but DIDN'T hit enough.

- All of the above enabled a predictably horrible officiating job to let them win it from the line.

So... there ya go. Eliot tried his best with 14/13/7, but that second number could've easily been 20 by our guys converting just a decent pct of the other good ops he created. We always struggle in Winston, but this year it unfortunately means so much more, so coming close is no consolation... and that f^^^ing sucks. Sorry --- dunno what else to say. Good night all...

 

[Sk1310]

It baffles me how bad we are at shooting. This team couldn't afford a down year from RJ behind the arc but here we are

 

[gkss]

...and this is one I can't blame the coaching staff for.

This really is gonna be extremely quick:

- You want a game summary? Ok: We defended them into shitty looks all night, but they hit just enough of them.

- Meanwhile, we got consistently great looks all night, but DIDN'T hit enough.

- All of the above enabled a predictably horrible officiating job to let them win it from the line.

So... there ya go. Eliot tried his best with 14/13/7, but that second number could've easily been 20 by our guys converting just a decent pct of the other good ops he created. We always struggle in Winston, but this year it unfortunately means so much more, so coming close is no consolation... and that f^^^ing sucks. Sorry --- dunno what else to say. Good night all...

That about sums it up- not a lot needs to be said. I will add that we need Ian and Drake hitting shots and attacking, get enough production from the front court, get more offensive rebounds, and be decent beyond the arc. We came back late with pressure defensively and pushing tempo. Hell even Jalen loosened up and hit a three! Bad body language was noticed by @sctarheel30 during the game, and I would agree. I hope we keep fighting and competing- I feel like we will. As always, Go Heels!!

 

[Oak ridger]

Great game in WS, atmosphere was entertaining and Deacons fans were giving me crap the whole game. The year of " just can't make a shot". I still stick with this team finishing with a 500 record this seaon.

 

[JovialMuse]

Agree that the coaching staff can't really be blamed for this one. Although I guess it can be argued that not utilizing the talent that definitely exists on this team to their full potential up to this point in the season has put UNC in a position where there's almost no room for error or bad shooting nights. So tired of these seasons that can best be described as parades of mediocrity. Even Roy was not immune to this his last two seasons, but one really good season last year just isn't enough when you're Carolina. I think it hurts more b/c duke hasn't seemed to miss a beat during their coaching transition. Although anyone could probably coach that team to success but even their "down" years are 4-seed NCAAT teams. In my line of work there's a saying: fail quick. This allows you to identify issues and move on/forward and not drag out problems. Hard for me not to want that here even though it goes against everything in my sense of fanhood.

 

[Kool1234567]

Shot 0 Free Throws 2nd half but did manage to jack up 18 3s…Basically playing like they are a AAU team….No coaching just roll the ball out and old Hubert says okay go win…


It’s NIL though….Sad when Stanford and Wake are out spending UNC….

 

[Goheels83]

EC was breaking them down all night!
Have no idea why we didn’t press more?
When Rj didn’t give it up to Jackson on that 2 on 1 fast break he should’ve went straight to the bench.

 

[Bubspub88]

This team has as little margin for error as any UNC team I can recall. They simply cannot afford an off night shooting from any level, numbers need to be around 50%, 40% and 80% to beat comparable talent. Missed a ton of open looks but also forced too many. I was excited about Tyson when he signed but now do not want to see him on the floor. Same with Withers.

Dook's frontcourt will eat Carolina alive. Can't blame coaches for missed shots but I think they have lost this team. Up something like 13-7 at a tv break and instead of going for the jugular they looked to just be going through the motions. Corey Alexander was talking about Hubert saying this team doesn't have that team leader to yell at them and pull them together. That is very telling.

The Heels have a game with BC then a brutal 4-game stretch followed by road game at Cuse. A mid-February record right around .500 is likely. Wonder if they will play the NIT game in Carmichael?

 

[39 Feet Above Sea Level]

Put yourself in RJ or Elliot’s shoes. They break down a defender, draw contact in the lane (several times on
shot attempts) and GO TO THE LINE FOR NO FREE THROW ATTEMPTS IN HALF TWO. 🤭🤨🤔

That’s how you lose a one point game, again.

 

[NathanFielder]

I thought UNC missed a lot of really makable shots throughout the night. Kind of been that story all season.

The margin for error is razor thin. If they don’t get to the FT line, they struggle to win games. Credit to Cadeau. He balled out. But top to bottom this team is just so inconsistent.

Pretty disastrous game from Powell and Jackson. Those 2 obviously need to turn things around quickly.

There’s a lacking of winning DNA on this team.

I did think there were a couple of positives:
- Cadeau didn’t pick up moronic fouls and Hubert basically played him wire to wire
- Hubert called some money set plays
- Hubert rode Cadeau, RJ, Jackson. Like it or not, this team isn’t deep and their ability to win games lies in those 3 every game. Ride them.

 

[alabamaheel]

The two freshmen were non existent. We finally get a first half lead and for some reason Tyson and Claude are on the floor at the same dang time and there goes all our momentum and lead. Seth with a weird game in my opinion. Had several defensive brain farts and couldn’t finish. Hd gave him the worst look I’ve ever seen him give someone.

EC and RJ got it done for the most part. EC with an awesome game for sure. He was all over this game in every facet. RJ with better shot selection and passing, although like Gary said, others didn’t finish the play with makes. They both still drive too deep into the middle and lose the ball at times but at least it’s to create when things get stagnant. All around it’s tough to watch and enjoy at this point. Heck when you lose this much arguing isn’t even any fun lol @gary-7

 

[JovialMuse]

Shot 0 Free Throws 2nd half but did manage to jack up 18 3s…Basically playing like they are a AAU team….No coaching just roll the ball out and old Hubert says okay go win…


It’s NIL though….Sad when Stanford and Wake are out spending UNC….

Is this really true? I recall the excitement around snatching the NIL guy from Kentucky and how many thought this was a difference maker for UNC athletics, but I haven't seen any evidence that he's helped at all. I guess coaching staffs have the final say on where NIL money goes but still seems odd that a school like Wake has more NIL to be out spending UNC. Unless you're saying UNC isn't using the NIL money?

 

[sctarheel30]

That about sums it up- not a lot needs to be said. I will add that we need Ian and Drake hitting shots and attacking, get enough production from the front court, get more offensive rebounds, and be decent beyond the arc. We came back late with pressure defensively and pushing tempo. Hell even Jalen loosened up and hit a three! Bad body language was noticed by @sctarheel30 during the game, and I would agree. I hope we keep fighting and competing- I feel like we will. As always, Go Heels!!

Can’t help but notice their body language and will to fight just seems to quickly go away too easily the minute things head south. A lot like past teams that have been here but hopefully it doesn’t get as bad as when MD was here. Would be nice to find something positive and begin our run now kinda like moo last year but sooner.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I miss the days when my DVR had slow motion. I have to think some of the times EC went sprawling on the floor were "assisted" but I couldn't really tell.

In any case, a terrific game by EC. I'm hard on him sometimes, because this is more what I expect. He probably should have been MVP even though on the losing side.

There are always "ifs" in games like these. It seemed like Hildreth got close to the basket a whole lot, only to miss those close shots. To be fair, he had to really work to get that close. But if I'm a Wake fan, I'm thinking this game shouldn't have been close. If Wake had lost, I'm sure Wake fans would be screaming about the times he was fouled without calls.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Can’t help but notice their body language and will to fight just seems to quickly go away too easily the minute things head south. A lot like past teams that have been here but hopefully it doesn’t get as bad as when MD was here. Would be nice to find something positive and begin our run now kinda like moo last year but sooner.

Just think where this team would be if Ingram had come back for another season. Not only would he fill a big hole, but he was a cheer leader on the floor.

Can't blame him for leaving, but still....

 

[sctarheel30]

This team has as little margin for error as any UNC team I can recall. They simply cannot afford an off night shooting from any level, numbers need to be around 50%, 40% and 80% to beat comparable talent. Missed a ton of open looks but also forced too many. I was excited about Tyson when he signed but now do not want to see him on the floor. Same with Withers.

Dook's frontcourt will eat Carolina alive. Can't blame coaches for missed shots but I think they have lost this team. Up something like 13-7 at a tv break and instead of going for the jugular they looked to just be going through the motions. Corey Alexander was talking about Hubert saying this team doesn't have that team leader to yell at them and pull them together. That is very telling.

The Heels have a game with BC then a brutal 4-game stretch followed by road game at Cuse. A mid-February record right around .500 is likely. Wonder if they will play the NIT game in Carmichael?

And RJ saying he doesn’t want/know how to lead for the fear of hurting feelings (seems corey said something along those lines as well) piss on that hurt their feelings I don’t care.

 

[sctarheel30]

Just think where this team would be if Ingram had come back for another season. Not only would he fill a big hole, but he was a cheer leader on the floor.

Can't blame him for leaving, but still....

Somebody has to take the leadership role and do it quickly

 

[notashelbyfan]

...and this is one I can't blame the coaching staff for.

This really is gonna be extremely quick:

- You want a game summary? Ok: We defended them into shitty looks all night, but they hit just enough of them.

- Meanwhile, we got consistently great looks all night, but DIDN'T hit enough.

- All of the above enabled a predictably horrible officiating job to let them win it from the line.

So... there ya go. Eliot tried his best with 14/13/7, but that second number could've easily been 20 by our guys converting just a decent pct of the other good ops he created. We always struggle in Winston, but this year it unfortunately means so much more, so coming close is no consolation... and that f^^^ing sucks. Sorry --- dunno what else to say. Good night all...

EC was great last night, the game was a shitshow.

Couldn't throw one in the ocean.

When you jack up 32 threes you are not going to get to the freethrow line.

Everyone can see that he needs to keep his emotions in check better, but let's get back in the real world, shall we?
He is never "really bad" --- and AYFKM?... "they helped him out by scoring'???
LMAO. Just stop.

Stop. Please. You're making my side hurt laughing at you. Apparently you don't seem to understand that it's the assistER that helps out the assistEE. 😂

I guess I shouldn't be surprised though. If you knew what the heck you were looking at, or could see past your silly false narrative, you'd also know Eliot doesn't need to anyone to "make him look better". Moreover, that's not how the game works, bubba. Do yourself and everyone here a favor and just sit these basketball threads out.

Funny how you chastised and made fun of me when I said his teammates help him out by scoring, and now you're are referring to his numbers could've have been better if they would have scored from his passes.

 

[RP12]

Agree that the coaching staff can't really be blamed for this one. Although I guess it can be argued that not utilizing the talent that definitely exists on this team to their full potential up to this point in the season has put UNC in a position where there's almost no room for error or bad shooting nights. So tired of these seasons that can best be described as parades of mediocrity. Even Roy was not immune to this his last two seasons, but one really good season last year just isn't enough when you're Carolina. I think it hurts more b/c duke hasn't seemed to miss a beat during their coaching transition. Although anyone could probably coach that team to success but even their "down" years are 4-seed NCAAT teams. In my line of work there's a saying: fail quick. This allows you to identify issues and move on/forward and not drag out problems. Hard for me not to want that here even though it goes against everything in my sense of fanhood.

This is my thinking as well...so coaching in a development sense rather than in game. I would argue that we've seen better 3pt shooting over the long term from Ian and Drake than projected before the season. For this team to have a meaningful ceiling JWash and Tyson had to be factors on offense at least some of the time. So you had to stick with them and if they didn't find a groove the ceiling would be first weekend outside of shooting luck. For all the talk of how nice Hubert is, if he's yelling the same tired clichés while he jumps around on the sidelines I could see that getting old. And his usage certainly has killed any chance for some players to turn the corner thusfar.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Funny how you chastised and made fun of me when I said his teammates help him out by scoring, and now you're are referring to his numbers could've have been better if they would have scored from his passes.

Touche.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I guess it can be argued that not utilizing the talent that definitely exists on this team to their full potential up to this point in the season has put UNC in a position where there's almost no room for error or bad shooting nights.

Recently I've been wondering whether Gut could have turned our cluster-F of bigs into a competitive unit.

I mean is the talent really that weak, or is it just poorly developed?

To my layman's eyes some (all?) of our bigs show the skills we want . . . on occasion. So why not all the time - or at least a lot more?

Any of our gurus willing to speculate on that?

 

[HoopsCoach42]

Give Brown some more run...at least he plays with a little passion and fire!