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FBI Raided Manafort Over Records of Trump Tower Meeting w/ Russians, Mueller Confirms

If the Democratic candidate refuses to take PAC/super PAC money and supports legalization of marijuana then they'll win by 10 points.
See? You're young and idealistic! Get out there and get the wheel spinning!

That's using the ol' noggin! Legalize weed!

Use your efforts to get SC a decent governor! Or, at the very least, keep this Rapture-in-waiting jingoist out of the governor's mansion:


 
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There ya go!

Bring back the Royal Family!

Chivas and clam chowduh!
 
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The president's lawyer being raided, and Manafort being charged with conspiracy against the US are hardly equivalent to "speeding tickets."

Ok, so maybe you can elaborate on how this spells the downfall for Trump or affects any of our lives whatsoever? Please don't include an "if", I've been waiting on pins and needles and don't need another cliff hanger.


Jeez, why the need to throw around such harsh age discriminatory epithets? Thought you'd be more open/accepting than that.
 
See? You're young and idealistic! Get out there and get the wheel spinning!

That's using the ol' noggin! Legalize weed!

Use your efforts to get SC a decent governor! Or, at the very least, keep this Rapture-in-waiting jingoist out of the governor's mansion:



I don’t see how supporting two specific platform ideas makes me idealistic but legalizing marijuana and getting money out of politics are issues that resonate with most of the country.
 
Would be interesting to see who poast's more threads about the other side, Billy or Nuke. Yeah Nuke needs to return.

Yeah . . . the board has been flooded with Trump political threads that I have started hasn't it . . ? GTFOH w/ that BS, and go count them.

Is it that difficult to skip over those threads that you H8 so much . . or do you happen to feel it's required reading here on OOTB . . ?

Hit the 'ignore' button and you won't even have to read the thread title . . . . please do so or just STFU, you complain just like a woman. Whine and moan, cry and sob . . . whimper on some more, all the while you are responding to them.

Puss.
 
Ok, so maybe you can elaborate on how this spells the downfall for Trump or affects any of our lives whatsoever? Please don't include an "if", I've been waiting on pins and needles and don't need another cliff hanger.



Jeez, why the need to throw around such harsh age discriminatory epithets? Thought you'd be more open/accepting than that.

When a suspect’s lawyer gets raided by the feds that’s usually not a good sign for the suspect. We know who setup the backchannel. Mueller probably now has evidence of what was said during the meetings/negotiations. That’s why he raided Cohen. Manafort will flip and this case is going to be a slam dunk at that point.
 
I don’t see how supporting two specific platform ideas makes me idealistic but legalizing marijuana and getting money out of politics are issues that resonate with most of the country.
I would hope so. Unfortunately, getting money out of politics doesn't resonate with politicians or the corporations that own them. That wealthy and powerful thing shows-up again.
 
I would hope so. Unfortunately, getting money out of politics doesn't resonate with politicians or the corporations that own them. That wealthy and powerful thing shows-up again.

That’s why we start with refusing to vote for any candidate that takes the money. I refused to vote for Hillary for that exact reason.
 
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Is it that difficult to skip over those threads that you H8 so much . . or do you happen to feel it's required reading here on OOTB . . ?
Every thread here is required reading because the thread title usually doesn't indicate what the actual thread is about.
 
When a suspect’s lawyer gets raided by the feds that’s usually not a good sign for the suspect. We know who setup the backchannel. Mueller probably now has evidence of what was said during the meetings/negotiations. That’s why he raided Cohen. Manafort will flip and this case is going to be a slam dunk at that point.

Well done circumventing the "if" rule with a "probably". Assuming Mueller has all the evidence you mention, and Manafort does flip (neither of which is guaranteed, which is precisely why I try to avoid diving down these rabbit holes with the rest of you until something definitive happens), then what happens? Trump gets impeached and arrested? Executed by firing squad? Gets a slap on the wrist?
 
Every thread here is required reading because the thread title usually doesn't indicate what the actual thread is about.

Reading it doesn't mean you are required to respond to it . . . or does it. If, you're a responder, then stop whining like a little girl . .

I know you don't care for them . . but, please do keep responding and sobbing about them.
 
. I'm fully aware of the things Trump has done to reverse his predecessor's contributions. But, they just get switched-back when the song ends and a new one begins.

True. But I see that as a positive. Colin Cowherd said years ago that he always votes with gridlock in mind. His argument is that the best government is one that can't do much. I completely agree.
 
If you refuse to vote for a candidate like that, then you'll have no one to vote for.

Bernie begs to differ. Gavin Newsome and many other potential candidates for 2020 and congressional candidates have indicated they will follow his lead. The citizens get what we demand. But it starts with us getting on the same page.
 
... but Bernie revolutionized campaign financing, and was packing arenas around the country. He's the most favorable, and trusted politician in all of Washington according to public polling data. Calling him a "laughable" candidate is just petty and ignorant.

Precisely why he can't win.

Gavin Newsome should be on any and all Democratic short lists for 2020

I like that Gavin McInnes a lot better as far as Gavins go.
 
Well done circumventing the "if" rule with a "probably". Assuming Mueller has all the evidence you mention, and Manafort does flip (neither of which is guaranteed, which is precisely why I try to avoid diving down these rabbit holes with the rest of you until something definitive happens), then what happens? Trump gets impeached and arrested? Executed by firing squad? Gets a slap on the wrist?

This is a stupid tautology. Everything in reality happens or doesn’t happen with some probability. Of course I have to speak in those terms because I cannot see the future. If you think that is a logical refutation of the current facts of this case then I can’t help you. If I started talking about what will definitely happen then you’d come back with the “arrogant strident liberuhl” crap.

There were quite a lot of fully redacted pages in the documents filed by Andrew Weismann. They obviously got something out of that raid.

I don’t know what happens if this case comes to the conclusion that it seems to be currently pointing at. Impeachment is a political process and that comes first. I have no doubt there are scumbags in the GOP that would put party before country. It’s sad that the outcome of this investigation is in any way dependent on the midterm elections. This shouldn’t be a partisan issue.
 
Precisely why he can't win.



I like that Gavin McInnes a lot better as far as Gavins go.

McInnes is good for a laugh when I’m in the mood for sandbox humor but he’s no serious intellectual. Also kinda funny that you claim to hate hipsters so much when he is the self proclaimed godfather of hipsterdom.
 
Yeah . . . the board has been flooded with Trump political threads that I have started hasn't it . . ? GTFOH w/ that BS, and go count them.

Is it that difficult to skip over those threads that you H8 so much . . or do you happen to feel it's required reading here on OOTB . . ?

Hit the 'ignore' button and you won't even have to read the thread title . . . . please do so or just STFU, you complain just like a woman. Whine and moan, cry and sob . . . whimper on some more, all the while you are responding to them.

Puss.


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This is a stupid tautology. Everything in reality happens or doesn’t happen with some probability. Of course I have to speak in those terms because I cannot see the future. If you think that is a logical refutation of the current facts of this case then I can’t help you. If I started talking about what will definitely happen then you’d come back with the “arrogant strident liberuhl” crap.

There were quite a lot of fully redacted pages in the documents filed by Andrew Weismann. They obviously got something out of that raid.

I don’t know what happens if this case comes to the conclusion that it seems to be currently pointing at. Impeachment is a political process and that comes first. I have no doubt there are scumbags in the GOP that would put party before country. It’s sad that the outcome of this investigation is in any way dependent on the midterm elections. This shouldn’t be a partisan issue.


Are you going to keep talking or are you going to lay down some money on a bet? You've already had one offer and I'm willing to jump in also.
 
McInnes is good for a laugh when I’m in the mood for sandbox humor but he’s no serious intellectual. Also kinda funny that you claim to hate hipsters so much when he is the self proclaimed godfather of hipsterdom.

Sure. His name is Gavin for cryin' out loud. Hipsters aren't my favorite but they're good for a laugh every now and then. I'm usually laughing at them but sometimes it's with them.
 
1. How do y'all have the energy to follow all these 'investigations' that are A) wasting your and my money, B) not going to lead to anything?

2. @BillyL why do you get so wound up in every single political thread? You kinda definitely come across as a jackass.
 
LOL . . the angry old white guys are who voted 45 into office.

If you're not "angry", what word would you use to characterize your feelings? Because from where all of us sit, you definitely seem angry. And then you said you could be President of the large group of angry people. So I took that to mean that you were indeed angry and you were aware that everyone here recognizes that as well.
 
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