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I'm not sure if Seth will make it thru the season if this continues. Offense has too many weapons to perform in this manner. Fed is openly covering for him.
#34 getting the ball at least 20 times has to be priority #1 for the offense every week.
Thank God Chizik is here and in place. Either Fedora will figure it out or not, but at least we know that it will be one or the other next year.
Kinda the story of UNC football isn't it? Always just one year away.
Kinda the story of UNC football isn't it? Always just one year away.
He ran 13 times, and 2 more might have gotten us over the hump. I would also like to see Logan with another couple of carries. Ger Ds focused on stopping Hood, and they will tend to relax when he is out, And then Logan can break one for a TD.
Of course, the more we run Hood, the less value there is in MW as a runner, and that is far and away the main reason to play him.
if fedora fires littrell it makes a mockery of what/who is running the show...littrell should've never been back considering this was a year fedora has to make strides...this garbage went on last year and nothing was done, it seems.
if i'm fedora, i take over play calling, see how seth takes it, and go from there...spurrier did it three years ago, just call plays and go by feel...if seth get butthurt, he can take a walk...at the very least, we'll know who is responsible for what after the year.
maybe that larry's plan...place blame, keep cashing checks.
if i'm fedora, i take over play calling, see how seth takes it, and go from there...spurrier did it three years ago, just call plays and go by feel...if seth get butthurt, he can take a walk...at the very least, we'll know who is responsible for what after the year.
maybe that larry's plan...place blame, keep cashing checks.
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Have to agree with g. If Littrell is calling the plays, that needs to change immediately.
But you should have heard what seem to have been jokes, or attempts to lighten the air with humor. And many people do that when they know they screwed up and have little or no intention of making the changes that the wolves at the door demand.
People also do that when they know they screwed up but don't know how or why.
I have no idea what Fedora realizes or plans to change. But he better figure it out quickly- I can't imagine he survives to next season if the defense improves to middle of the road and he still only wins 7 games.
Ah okay, I read one write up that said he had 14 carries. Another said 12 carries. Too few, regardless
what makes me so disgusted is that fedora said repeatedly in preseason interviews that unc's offense this year will emphasize our multi-talented running backs. then the season starts and he goes right back to the krap that cost us games last season -- the marquis williams show.
They even talked about two back sets being the norm and not stacked power I formations where one is utilized as a fullback. We have two bruisers who could be paired with a speedster. Can you imagine having the luxury of Hood and Logan in the backfield at the same time? Or Tyson and Morris/ Francis?
Red zone offence will not get better until one of the two dip shits understands 1 St and goal we don't have to pass every play.
Team needs a heavy package hood should of been in the game. You could see him on the sidelines wanting in the game he was the reason they were down there.
Good way to lose a players desire.
Also what is fedora talking about when asked why hood was not in game and trying to run the ball. He says because we were behind the chains. Not until the sack and 4 down. Everyone knows we are going to spread and throw down close because that is all we do.
He had 12 carries officially. ESPN has him down for 13 but ESPN's box scores are hot trash. There is no argument it was too few, however.
First of all, did you just reply to yourself? Pretty sure you did.
Secondly, your last statement is demonstrably false. The last-second game-winning touchdown runs against Georgia Tech and Pitt last season both came on handoffs to TJ Logan. I could dig up other examples but I'm really not in the mood.
So you thank we should have spread the field had one qb sneak and three pass plays. On a first and goal at the 9.
That's not what I said at all. What I said is that your assertion we only pass the ball in goal-to-go situations is flat out incorrect.
ETA: And for the record, I personally would have preferred we fed Hood down there, but that doesn't mean passing was a bad decision. It was the execution that was bad.
I disagree. Whenever you are running the ball effectively, you stick with the run. And whenever your QB is having an off night (that's me being generous) and you are killing the other team on the ground, you don't pass under any but the most dire circumstance.
Fedora is full of shit. He says a bunch of bullshit and blows hot air. Same result over and over and over. All sizzle and no steak.
Don't hold back, GoN! Say what you really mean!
I don't wanna bash Marquise too much. He did have a stellar season last year and pulled our butts out of the fire a few times and really shined bright. And, I'm hopeful he will get his mojo back. But, he was having a very bad night. I was in amazed when the defense managed to stop USC and then the offense managed to flip the field. Then, after incredible running got them down to 1st and goal, you see them switch to 3 pass attempts (or was it 2 passes and a QB draw/sneak?) and then a third INT... you just wanna cry! I mean, even if, let's say Hood fumbled and turns it over on a rush attempt to the end zone... I can live with that much better than a THIRD interception and the SECOND IN THE END ZONE! And, then lose by 4 points? The defense, except for that long TD run, almost won the game for us in spite of the bone-headed play-calling where it counted.
he was good up until the last two games when he played very poorly. a "stellar" season for a quarterback means finishing the season strong.Don't hold back, GoN! Say what you really mean!
I don't wanna bash Marquise too much. He did have a stellar season last year and pulled our butts out of the fire a few times and really shined bright....
No problem with the first two calls. But Hood should have been in on third down from the 3 and given a chance. The fourth down int is all on MW he had two guys open. So the at call was fine
strum, there were only 2 rushing plays in that drive. One was a Logan carry that went for no gain. The other was the Hood carry for 29 that was highlight-reel material. The rest of the plays that flipped the field were pass completions from MW. He was 4 of 6 on that drive (with 1 of the incompletions being a Bug Howard drop) for 49 yards with 3 first down conversions. Up until the pick, anyway. Point being it was largely MW who put us in a position to win in the first place. People are going on like Hood had toted the rock all the way down the field and then we suddenly decided to pass. That's not what happened at all.
RH, I really respect your opinion because you possess a lot of football knowledge. Like you, I would have preferred to see Hood get the ball inside the ten. I think the vast majority of us would have. However, once the OC has made the play call, it is incumbent upon our fifth year senior to not force a bad pass. In a very close game where every point counts, it is especially important for the QB to remember that the worst thing we can do is turn the ball over and basically rob us of a chip shot for three. When you consider Quise had already done it twice, it is mind boggling that a) our OC would make the same call, and b) that our fifth year senior would not have learned from his two previous mistakes.
I understand that Quise may have been a little nervous playing in front of his hometown fans. I also understand that he has pro aspirations and wants to demonstrate the ability to pass effectively. Regardless, as a fifth year senior, he really should have shown better poise and command of the situation. I couldn't be more disappointed with Quise's performance.
And while he may very well give us our best chance at winning immediately, I think we should be building toward next year and the future. We have as good a group of RB's and WR's as I can recall and we are under-utilizing them. And I believe it is in part because Quise's strength is running the ball. I believe a grave injustice was done to Elijah by not allowing him a chance to get the ball in the end zone. His performance merited the opportunity. It broke my heart to see him standing right next to the coach, just practically begging to go in. Once again, our staff out-thought themselves. That's becoming all too common.
I understand that Quise may have been a little nervous playing in front of his hometown fans. I also understand that he has pro aspirations and wants to demonstrate the ability to pass effectively. Regardless, as a fifth year senior, he really should have shown better poise and command of the situation. I couldn't be more disappointed with Quise's performance.
And while he may very well give us our best chance at winning immediately, I think we should be building toward next year and the future. We have as good a group of RB's and WR's as I can recall and we are under-utilizing them. And I believe it is in part because Quise's strength is running the ball. I believe a grave injustice was done to Elijah by not allowing him a chance to get the ball in the end zone. His performance merited the opportunity. It broke my heart to see him standing right next to the coach, just practically begging to go in. Once again, our staff out-thought themselves. That's becoming all too common.
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Archer, great post. Of course I'm playing devil's advocate to some degree. I don't think there was a single person watching that game who thought a 5th year senior who had never thrown a red zone INT would do it two, basically three times. There's plenty of blame to go around.
I'm sure there has been a lot of reflection and discussion among the coaches since Thursday. We all have opinions about the best course of action, but naturally it's unknowable what the right decision is. As fans, all we can do is hope for the best.
I'm sure there has been a lot of reflection and discussion among the coaches since Thursday. We all have opinions about the best course of action, but naturally it's unknowable what the right decision is. As fans, all we can do is hope for the best.
Indeed. As someone who has been rooting for the Heels for over a half century, whether they're playing tiddlywinks or football, I'm just wondering if I'll ever see the Heels play football at a high level again. I keep having my hopes dashed. I guess I'm either too ignorant or too loyal to change. Yet hope springs eternal and I'm still optimistic that it will one day occur.
Well, there's optimism and there's homerism. I have to admit I've been guilty of both before. We have three games to get the ship righted before we play Tech. I eagerly await our next game, as always.
The third INT was thrown on 4th down. I don't fault MW for that one, but I do for the other 2.
Plain and simple, we need Paul Johnsons philosophy this season- heavy run (and screens) and a few downfield passes to keep the defense honest. That would be playing to our strengths.
Hadn't really thought about it, but I like this approach. Balance for the sake of balance is kinda stupid if the running game is able to carry the load. Plus it would also get our receivers into single coverage that could allow them to bust some big gainers.
Agreed. That would give us our best chance to win. Then next year, we alter it to fit the personnel we have next year. That adjustment should be something that occurs every year anyway, something I think Roy should remember. You can't just force personnel into a cookie cutter scheme.
Most likely, you are correct which is why most likely, next year's HC is calling the defense this season.
oh the role reversal scenario if that happened...a national titling winning coach as the hc at carolina, not the hc that leaves carolina that goes on to a win a national title...raleigh would explode.
They didn't run the ball because of the clock situation. With 1 TO they made the right calls. It was a "what if we run and don't get it in, how much time do we lose". Incomplete passes don't cost you time. They felt if they didn't make it and had to kick a FG they would have enough time for a stop and a chance at a final FG to win. Who knew their DA QB would throw another pick?
They put it on their 5th year senior who folded like a cheap suit. That is not a coaching problem, that is a player execution problem from one position. MT, may or may not be better, but please let's find out because MW doesn't have "it".
They put it on their 5th year senior who folded like a cheap suit. That is not a coaching problem, that is a player execution problem from one position. MT, may or may not be better, but please let's find out because MW doesn't have "it".
I distinctly remember plenty of time. I remember seeing the clock a "4:43" and thinking "don't score too quick, because they'll have time to score again!" I was slipping back to last year's defense.
I do agree that Williams pooped the bed, however. I'm not sure the other QB's have "it" anymore than Marquise. I don't look for the coaching staff to find out this season.
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