Flipcowski Stuck his leg out...
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Flipo might get a lawyer and sue Wake for damages. Sounds like a whinner.
At least we got to see the OG scheyer face once again.
Honestly, regardless of what flip did or didn't do, they should have moved those players off the court before 0.0 just for this reason
Honestly, regardless of what flip did or didn't do, they should have moved those players off the court before 0.0 just for this reason
I thought his attempt at a shove left him off balance resulting in his ladylike pirouettes
In any event the ACC needs to get with the times and have hefty fines for schools who refuse to keep the fans off the court until the opponents have time to clear the court.
I NEVER root for or cheer injuries and one caused by fans charging a court is RIDICULOUS. I hope it is not a lingering issue for him. If that was RJ, I would be livid.
I NEVER root for or cheer injuries and one caused by fans charging a court is RIDICULOUS. I hope it is not a lingering issue for him. If that was RJ, I would be livid.
Wake Forest screwed up big time. Flip didn't do himself any favors in the way he tried to navigate the crowd, but the crowd should never have been out there while he and the dookies were still on the court.
Roy caught heat one time at fsu for removing the starters with a court storming getting ready to happen.. maybe dooks coach should have done same wth 1.8 to go
I'm of the thinking, maybe Wake should of done their job.
At any rate, l just purchased a:
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l’ll cover the postage stamp.
🌈 HOPE YOU GET WELL IN TWO MONTHS 🎊
Hallmark Greeting Card for Kyle at CVS. Anyone want to send me their e-signature for attachment?
l’ll cover the postage stamp.
Send his "partner" dook media boy Fran one as well😏
I personally like court storming. It makes college basketball unique. But the risk of injury is too much for it to continue in its current form.
Maybe there’s a middle ground. Maybe give the losing team 30 seconds to clear the court. But that would be really hard to regulate. Hard to control emotions if a home underdog makes a crazy buzzer beater to win a game.
I know everyone is making fun of Duke right now but this stuff puts UNC at risk too. There’s a chance of dealing with a court storm each time UNC loses a road game.
Safe way is to make it illegal or fine the host institution $1M every time it happens.
Maybe there’s a middle ground. Maybe give the losing team 30 seconds to clear the court. But that would be really hard to regulate. Hard to control emotions if a home underdog makes a crazy buzzer beater to win a game.
I know everyone is making fun of Duke right now but this stuff puts UNC at risk too. There’s a chance of dealing with a court storm each time UNC loses a road game.
Safe way is to make it illegal or fine the host institution $1M every time it happens.
Some schools do this already, due to the hefty fines their conference imposes. It is not that difficult to be positioned with security to hold the crowd back a minute for the opponent to clear the court. They are then allowed to celebrate on the floor.
Gerald Henderson is the real victim here
Right off the top, the ACC needs to and should have by now put in place a no storm the court rule like the SEC has. But really, bad on BOTH Wake AND duke! First Wake did nothing to have security keep the on rushing fans away from the duke players. But watching Schyer post game grated on me as well, YOU John Schyer, you plastic face one, DID NOTHING AT ALL TO PROTECT Y0UR OWN PLAYERS but you were not shy at dumping on Wake's not protecting them! The final seconds ticking off he did nothing to protect his own players KNOWING the Wake fans were primed to storm the court, Schyer stood there and watched, he didn't call all his players to come to their bench area, he left them stranded out there, you don't do that to your own players.
IN addition, it looked to me like Floppakowlski was a bit combative toward the on rushing fans almost as if he wanted to bully his way off the court and instead got trampled on, sorry but I can not find the tears for him. I don't like to see kid's get hurt and especially after the game has ended but I as well don't place all the blame on those Wake fans either, Schyer took zero responsibility and he had responsibility more than he acted on.
I as well feel the refs should have called an official TO to move the duke players close to the duke bench area and have security around them for their protection but I guess the refs were more concerned with protecting themselves.
IN addition, it looked to me like Floppakowlski was a bit combative toward the on rushing fans almost as if he wanted to bully his way off the court and instead got trampled on, sorry but I can not find the tears for him. I don't like to see kid's get hurt and especially after the game has ended but I as well don't place all the blame on those Wake fans either, Schyer took zero responsibility and he had responsibility more than he acted on.
I as well feel the refs should have called an official TO to move the duke players close to the duke bench area and have security around them for their protection but I guess the refs were more concerned with protecting themselves.
No question Flipowski was just much to blame as the happy fans wanting to celebrate the upset victory on their home court. No matter how many times you look at the film no one wanted Flipowski to pick up a injury but a 7 foot 240 pounds he should not act like gladiator in the Roman Coliseum fighting off the crowd like they were a bunch of hungry Lions because they are just Demon Deacons…
Court storming is idiotic and I would’ve probably been way more aggressive than Filipowski if I had hundreds of opposing fans sprinting right at me.
This is a spectacularly awful take. He could be 8 foot and 500 pounds and it wouldn’t eliminate the risk of him being trampled or assaulted from behind. If you expect someone to keep a level head as they get swarmed by a crowd of opposing fans then you are completely delusional.
1,000 % on Wake. Sheesh, the excuse making. That is on Wake 100% !!!!
I wouldn’t say 100 but at least mostly. As a coach I would have my players close or aware to be coming off the court quicker. But I agree it’s on wake. I’ve also seen a couple schools with several guards with pull ropes before. Anything would help.
I'm glad Flip didn't suffer a career ending injury. If he would have, things would get interesting on the legal front.
AI gave me this:
"In the context of NCAA basketball, if a visiting player gets injured by fans storming the court after a game, the liability for the player's injury would typically not fall on the NCAA school. Participation in sports is voluntary, and coaches or institutions are generally not held liable for player injuries unless they acted inappropriately or used unauthorized coaching techniques that directly led to the injury
https://www.pwdlawfirm.com/an-athletic-coachs-liability-for-player-injuries/
The NCAA and colleges limit their liability for player injuries through methods such as requiring health insurance for athletes and using waivers to limit their own risk
https://www.steinberglawfirm.com/blog/college-athlete-sport-injuries-can-you-sue/
While there are insurance programs like the Catastrophic Injury Insurance Program provided by the NCAA, these programs have specific coverage limits and eligibility criteria"
https://lawreview.unl.edu/college-s...rance-policies-available-its-student-athletes
AI gave me this:
"In the context of NCAA basketball, if a visiting player gets injured by fans storming the court after a game, the liability for the player's injury would typically not fall on the NCAA school. Participation in sports is voluntary, and coaches or institutions are generally not held liable for player injuries unless they acted inappropriately or used unauthorized coaching techniques that directly led to the injury
https://www.pwdlawfirm.com/an-athletic-coachs-liability-for-player-injuries/
The NCAA and colleges limit their liability for player injuries through methods such as requiring health insurance for athletes and using waivers to limit their own risk
https://www.steinberglawfirm.com/blog/college-athlete-sport-injuries-can-you-sue/
While there are insurance programs like the Catastrophic Injury Insurance Program provided by the NCAA, these programs have specific coverage limits and eligibility criteria"
https://lawreview.unl.edu/college-s...rance-policies-available-its-student-athletes
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Look close a those photos dude.
Not securing the court is 1000% on the home team. But.....
That first kid was running "past" not "at" until Flop stuck his hands/arms out.
That dude is a 7'0 pu$$y pissed again at another dook loss.
He made contact when he didn't have to.
Filipowski's head was level enough to try to trip a fan who was running PAST him. He wasn't intimidated by the rush, he was pissed off about it. He reacted and it backfired on him. Then the lying whiner had the balls to say that his injury was caused intentionally.
It's funny how so many get on their high-horse soapboxes only when an incident occurs. If Filipowski hadn't stuck his foot in it (pun intended), we would be saying 'boy that was some court storming. Wake fans sure were happy' and that would have been all that was said.
But no, something offered itself as provocation for the blamers of the world to come out of the woodwork and blame away, and they are taking full advantage of the opportunity. F them.
It ALWAYS takes an overblown incident like this for unwanted behavior to be taken seriously enough to do something substantial about it. And when I say substantial, I mean something beyond a rule that says 'you shouldn't do that'.
It's a shame; like someone else said, it's part of basketball. And like someone else said, the dook bench should have been more proactive in keeping their players safe. That being said, the court rush was not fully responsible for this. Filipowski becoming aggressive with a WF fan is as much to blame for his injury as the court rush was.
There are hundreds of spectators charging the court they are lucky they didn't catch haymakers charging at the players.
The players should not go into the stands and charge at spectators and the fans should not charge the players on the court. Why should he avoid the people breaking the common rules. The contact was made by the people charging the court, he was not in the stands theybare 1,000% in the wrong for ANY contact.
the contact with Filipowski was initiated by Filipowski, not by 'the people charging the court'. The people should not have been charging the court. Filipowski should not have been initiating contact with them. Both are to blame, Filipowski as much as the fans.
like ratface told Roy that time, maybe Hansbrough shouldn't have still been out there.
The contact was initiated by the fans rushing onto the court. They rushed into his space, where they are not allowed while the players are there.
Zero blame for Filopowski. Rush into my house and say I'm to blame for the contact. It doesn't make sense. Players stay out of the stands, fans stay off the court. Filipowski is ok to blast his way out of the crowd who are the ones saying the rules don't apply to them.
how is fans jamming Franklin St. after beating dook or winning the national championship part of basketball? Fans get happy after a big victory and want to celebrate en masse. Storming the court after big victories has happened many times before.. It's practically a tradition. You don't like it? Fine. But the joy and celebration of victory is why we even pay attention to begin with.
What? They are not on the court rushing the opponent on Franklin Street. Hell, they can Rush the court after the opponent is off, as schools do. Celebrate, just do not think you are above basic rules.
LMAO. It wasn't Filipowski's house, just for starters. And they didn't initiate contact with him, it was the other way around. But suppose it was, and the fans didn't storm the court. Does he get to push anybody and everybody out of the way in what he thinks is his space? He's running for the tunnel and somebody crosses in front of him, can he just run him over? Maybe he should be able to punch out WF players in the handshake line if he thinks they are not staying on their side. LOL.
you asked how is it part of basketball. You didn't specify anything about the timing. I explained that celebration is part of basketball (and all sport), and that storming the court is almost a tradition. Try to keep up with your own questions.
ETA.. lookie here...
There were many fans on the court before the game clock hit 0.0. One part of a fix would be to call a technical foul on the home team in a situation like above. Dook would've got 2 FT's and the ball back with about 0.5s left, potentially only down by 2 then. Maybe even give authority for the referees to put a full 1s back on the clock if the infraction occurs under 1s. I would hope that this potential would give pause to fans and give extra incentive to security to halt this behavior... Maybe even issue a threat of charge of trespassing.
All players, referees, team staffs, and media personnel must have ample opportunity to exit the court safely with no obstruction or interference.
All players, referees, team staffs, and media personnel must have ample opportunity to exit the court safely with no obstruction or interference.
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