How do we beat Kentucky
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Well, all we have to do is beat Kentucky, then Kansas, then Gonzaga. That's it.
This is not the same UK team you saw in the reg season..They are clicking..should be a great game..How stupid is it that UK,UCLA or UNC would have to beat 3 top 10 teams to get to the final..the other side is crap
Agree with the first part of the above sentence, disagree with the second. Roy can be a crafty so-and-so and he's been known to move the chess pieces when he needs to. I wouldn't be surprised to see some different looks, even from one play to the next.
To me the big question is how do we stop Justin Jackson. I think he is the x factor. When he gets rolling he`s tough as nails.
[QUOTE="SpicelandRic, post: 834168, member: 44057How stupid is it that UK,UCLA or UNC would have to beat 3 top 10 teams to get to the final..the other side is crap[/QUOTE]
That's what happens when one side of bracket goes the way it is supposed too and the other side gets busted with upsets...... Considering the other side had Nova, Zona, Duke and Gonzaga they would be saying the same thing if upsets didn't occur
That's what happens when one side of bracket goes the way it is supposed too and the other side gets busted with upsets...... Considering the other side had Nova, Zona, Duke and Gonzaga they would be saying the same thing if upsets didn't occur
Same thing happened in 2015 when one side was loaded & dook had their road paved. Same plan this year but it didn't work out
If I were UNC, I would pack it in and make UK beat you from 3 land. UCLA tried it and it didnt work, but with this UK team you don't really know game to game. Maybe make an adjustment in the second half if it doesn't work.
Having said that, I hope you don't, and I hope it's a track meet. I like UK if it goes to high percentage possessions.
Having said that, I hope you don't, and I hope it's a track meet. I like UK if it goes to high percentage possessions.
We won't do that because Roy doesn't believe in doing that. But you'll get some open looks from beyond the arc because he believes in helping down on defense, which unfortunately plays into the hands of good 3-pt shooting teams. Ergo, our difficulty in beating dook in recent years, who relies heavily on the three. We all wish Roy wouldn't help down on good perimeter shooting teams, but it is what it is. With three good long distance bombers in Monk(40%), Willis(39%), and Mulder(38%), that is my biggest concern. I think we have an advantage inside and UK has one on the outside.
Oh, it will be a track meet, as both teams love to run. Probably not as high scoring an affair as earlier this season, but neither team will try to hold the ball.
Good luck. I hope both teams get through it with no injuries and that the good guys win a classic.[/QUOTE]
I would love to make it a matchup of Bench and Bigs. That would work well in our favor.
Me too. That's UNCs best chance. If this game is played in the 60s or 70s it's probably a UK win. If it's 80s or 90s - it's probably a UNC win.
You are not going to out-rebound us enough to make a difference. We are right behind you in total rebounds and rebounds/game.
You are not going to stop Fox from getting into the lane at will. Change up your defenses all you want. It won't matter...
We can't stop Justin Jackson from getting his points. He is too good and too big/fast for whomever is on him.
Bam can guard anyone on your team one on one. He will get a double double most likely if he is not double teamed.
UCLA double teamed him and he had 2 points on Friday. Only 2....
Friday was Monk's first decent offensive game in like 3 WEEKS.
John Higgins effin" hates us. Our record when he is on the ref crew is awful.
I personally think a combo of Fox,Monk,and Bam will be sitting for a majority of the first half.
Like was said before, pack it in and double Bam.
We don't hit around 8 3's at about 35% or more, we are done and have fun with the Ducks.
You are not going to stop Fox from getting into the lane at will. Change up your defenses all you want. It won't matter...
We can't stop Justin Jackson from getting his points. He is too good and too big/fast for whomever is on him.
Bam can guard anyone on your team one on one. He will get a double double most likely if he is not double teamed.
UCLA double teamed him and he had 2 points on Friday. Only 2....
Friday was Monk's first decent offensive game in like 3 WEEKS.
John Higgins effin" hates us. Our record when he is on the ref crew is awful.
I personally think a combo of Fox,Monk,and Bam will be sitting for a majority of the first half.
Like was said before, pack it in and double Bam.
We don't hit around 8 3's at about 35% or more, we are done and have fun with the Ducks.
Comparing UK and Butler is like comparing apples and oranges.
Butler is an execution team who was well disciplined but couldn't physically overwhelm you at ANY position.
UK isn't as disciplined and probably don't execute as well, but has players that can dominate a given game.
Some player for either team will have a huge game and probably be the difference maker today.
Could be Meeks or Jackson, or it could be Fox or Monk...
Good luck and I just hope its an awesome game!!
Butler is an execution team who was well disciplined but couldn't physically overwhelm you at ANY position.
UK isn't as disciplined and probably don't execute as well, but has players that can dominate a given game.
Some player for either team will have a huge game and probably be the difference maker today.
Could be Meeks or Jackson, or it could be Fox or Monk...
Good luck and I just hope its an awesome game!!
Seriously... think about it. I think Roy asks can you shoot free throws and if they say no then he says you are the man for us. LOL No but it just becomes mind boggling. Been a Tar Heel for many years and I remember when it was a given when we made more free throws than the other teams attempted every game. Not anymore!
He fouled out after 19 minutes in the first game.
Unfortunately, he's played over 30 minutes in each of their last 12 games and only averaged 2 fouls in that stretch.
Obviously we should challenge him, but he seems to have corrected his fouling problem.
If we are respectable at the line, we beat Butler, a #4 seed that beat Villanova twice by 20 points. You say we need to play "a lot" better then that? First half was great, a few minutes in the 2nd half werent.
The front line matchup is pretty interesting
Code:
UK mpg pts rbs pfs
Bam 29.1 13.3 7.6 2.7
Willis 20.7 7.0 5.0 1.7
Gabriel 19.9 5.5 5.5 2.7
Hump 8.5 2.9 3.0 1.7
Totals 78.2 28.7 21.1
UNC mpg pts rbs pfs
Kennedy 23.5 12.5 9.1 2.3
Isaiah 23.1 11.9 5.6 3.1
Tony 15.2 7.5 5.3 1.8
Luke 14.1 5.0 3.8 1.8
Totals 75.9 36.9 23.8As teams we both average 85.2 points.
We outrebound them, on average, 43.7 to 39.9.
They outblock us 5.4 to 3.2 per game.
Clearly they rely on their front line to score less than we do.
[UK also has Killeya-Jones and Wynyard - both 6'10 - but neither has played for a couple of months. I assume they are either injured or Cal gave up on them for this year.]
That doesn't look like a big front-line advantage to me... a few more points, a few more rebounds.
For me the key for us to win is shot slection, we can NOT jack up 27 or 28 3's. We have to make UK work on D and not bail them out with quick shots!
Oh yeah one more point make our free throws!
Oh yeah one more point make our free throws!
Couldn't agree more. Our bread and butter is scoring points in the paint and rebounding. We should never forget that! We have a tendency to fall in love with the trey at times and it generally doesn't bode well for us. We should make a concerted effort to go inside early and often. If we can get Bam in foul trouble, it would help our chances significantly.
We left 12-15 points on the line in our last game. If we do that against UK, we lose, plain and simple.
North Carolina's path so far: (seeding and kenpom rankings)
16-Texas South. / kp= 213 #191 offense #228 defense
8-Arkansas / kp=35 #28 #76 defense
4-Butler / kp=24 #20 offense #49 defense
Kentucky's path so far: (seeding and kenpom rankings)
15 Northern KY / kp= 137 #130 offense #178 defense
10 Wichita State / kp= 8 #15 offense #10 defense
3 UCLA / kp= 16 #2 #86 defense
The matchup:
1 North Carolina / kp=5 #6 offense #20 defense
2 Kentucky / kp=4 #12 offense #7 defense
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16-Texas South. / kp= 213 #191 offense #228 defense
8-Arkansas / kp=35 #28 #76 defense
4-Butler / kp=24 #20 offense #49 defense
Kentucky's path so far: (seeding and kenpom rankings)
15 Northern KY / kp= 137 #130 offense #178 defense
10 Wichita State / kp= 8 #15 offense #10 defense
3 UCLA / kp= 16 #2 #86 defense
The matchup:
1 North Carolina / kp=5 #6 offense #20 defense
2 Kentucky / kp=4 #12 offense #7 defense
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That's what I was thinking. We rely on our front line more for scoring but that may just be because they can rely on their backcourt shooting - not because our front line is better.
In that short sample, they have defeated a team that's better than us offensively (UCLA) and another team better than us defensively (Wichita St).
Meanwhile, we have not faced anyone as good on either offense or defense as Kentucky.
But we have beaten teams that are better either offensively or defensively during the regular season.
Its more of the fact that Cal realized early on how fast his team is. Kentucky is really fast. Fox, Monk of course but dont forget Isaiah Briscoe (soph.) was the #1 pg in his class. Dominique Hawkins was Mr. Basketball in the state of Kentucky and is very fast and athletic (44 inch vertical).
They are big guards overall. Monk and Fox are both 6'-4" and have long wingspans. Fox basically has a 6'-10" wingspan so it helps him guard you. The big guys that are Mcdonalds All Americans that are on the bench dont play alot because we play fast.
Kentucky may be from the SEC but Cal always makes sure to schedule good teams. Kentucky has played
UCLA twice (elite 8 team)
Louisville
Kansas (elite 8 team)
North Carolina (soon to be twice)v(elite 8 team)
Arkansas (twice) (they played you guys close)
Florida (twice) (elite 8 team)
South Carolina (elite 8 team)
Wichita State (kenpom top 10 team)
North Carolina obviously played a tough schedule as well.
UCLA twice (elite 8 team)
Louisville
Kansas (elite 8 team)
North Carolina (soon to be twice)v(elite 8 team)
Arkansas (twice) (they played you guys close)
Florida (twice) (elite 8 team)
South Carolina (elite 8 team)
Wichita State (kenpom top 10 team)
North Carolina obviously played a tough schedule as well.
That's a fair point. Although the SEC is not a strong up and down conference, you have played quality teams.
We have as well, being in the ACC. However, we have not been a good road team, especially against better teams.
However, our team is also experienced and this is a neutral site. Will that help? Who knows.
I've tried to make peace with the fact that there's a good chance we lose today, so a W is a bonus for me.
GO HEELS!
GO HEELS!
To me Fox is the key. Between Britt and Woods that is 10 extra fouls to bang that little point around and maybe get him tired so a fresher Berry can take advantage of him.
Ugly first half by both sides. Neither can hit FT's and we are 1-7 from 3. Heels getting the favorable side of the calls, but missing FT's. needed to take advantage of Monk and Fox being in foul trouble and didn't.
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