Hubert Davis

[uncfanatic]

i saw one section, maybe an upper corner, that was light…just looked like it was crowded i guess, especially compared to last weekend.

so, do you believe a large majority of the fanbase is hoping to miss the tournament in order to get a change or make the tournament because “we must make the tournament”?

i’m kinda torn to be honest…i said “he’s gotta go two weeks ago” so i guess i’m there.

Make or don’t make it honestly doesn’t bother me this year - I’m looking at the next 5–10 years and the big picture. Our streak ended long ago of consecutive years and the Clemson being 0-65 in CH. Those things will eventually happen.

I think HD gets next year with the class coming in and the portal. He has some of the blame for messing up the portal imo. Some say we didn’t have money and others say we did - HD just wasn’t playing that game. I believe he is smart enough to realize that is the game now and he’s going to have to change to be contending. This isn’t the 90s anymore where UNC is elite and can pick and choose who we want.

Fool me once - okay. If you and I are sitting here in January 2026 having this conversation then he’s gone and should be.

So to answer your question - I honestly don’t care because this team is so blah currently then I will have a hard time getting excited to squeeze in the dance and then get smacked back to Chapel Hill in the first round.

 

[big_deez]

I seriously mean it’s nice to have this positive outlook. Kudos.

But can you say Hubert has made this year’s team better - any player as an individual- or the team as a whole, given the known pieces / players he has - and all their strengths and limitations as individuals and as a team? Has he built game plans and coached them to optimize (get most out of what they are, stretch and challenge them) them as a team? That’s what being a good coach means to me. You see it often at smaller or lesser known programs who compete and win above average / expected level.

I see absolutely none of that with Hubert in 4 years, especially this year. If anything this team has regressed from early on. Maybe that is because through scouting teams can see how to play us and that we have zero inside game or threat. Ok - so what does Hubert do to adjust to that strategically?

All I see or hear is a bunch of “golly gee we need to play hard and smart and outcompete and hope for the best”. Empty BS that no legit high level D1 coach should get away with, let alone what should be a top 5 (top 10 at least) program and job in the nation

He’s had 4 years to show he can be a good D1 coach. I don’t see improvement or learning by him in any area. I seriously ask his supporters who ask for more time for him - what is one thing as a coach he’s improved on in his 4 years or this year? And that includes picking coaches / staff on his bench who can make the team develop, get better ie a big man coach, a shooting specialist coach, defensive coach, etc?

I’m out on Hubert no matter how this year ends - and I guarantee it’s going to end poorly. No way we make ncaa tourney - and likely won’t play in NIT. Making the NIT should be a humiliation for this program obviously, not a goal

Heel, thats fair man, honestly, you state some valid points, hard to argue. Mr. Tremble is really the player that seems to have developed at some level but I can't necessarily lay that HD and Corp. As good as these freshmen have gotten, I think this team has regressed. This team misses Bocot, as good as he was for this team, he wasn't a highly skilled big man. Don't get me wrong, dude was a beast, a dominant force, but did his game seem to develop greatly over time at UNC? After that many years, with his size, strength and dominant presence, I would expect him to be a top pick. He really hasn't shown attributes to succeed in the league. I digress... As far as HD goes, is 3.5 years enough to show him the door? If he turns this around with recruiting in the off season and 2025-2026 is back at the top, would you think firing him was premature? On the otherhand, I guess if he is ranked preseason #1 in 2026-2027(after stellar year) and flops again, it's a no brainer? I guess your point is that its time to avoid all that and get rid of him now. Very good debate actually, it would be cool to have honest dialog, some pros and cons adding some good data and statistics. Honestly though, if these guys could hit shots, at least meet expectations, fire HD my not be much of a discussion this year.

 

[al would]

just for a clearer picture, i might re-watch the kansas and mich st games this week.

I'm not sure what your hoping to find but with the constantly changing line ups and general lack of direction on both O&D, anything resembling consistent improvement might be hard to find. jmo .. let me know if you do.

 

[DSouthr]

i saw one section, maybe an upper corner, that was light…just looked like it was crowded i guess, especially compared to last weekend.

so, do you believe a large majority of the fanbase is hoping to miss the tournament in order to get a change or make the tournament because “we must make the tournament”?

i’m kinda torn to be honest…i said “he’s gotta go two weeks ago” so i guess i’m there.

I just cannot understand how anyone can root for UNC to lose and consider themselves a UNC fan? I could NEVER root for UNC to lose in any sport much less in basketball. I don't think I have been shy discussing what I see as short comings from Hubert, the standard for UNC is to high for me not to. I said a couple weeks ago, that I want to wait to the end of this season, till the final game has been played and then assess if I think it is time to move on from Hubert, it may surprise many but I am inclined slightly to see him stay for 1 more but in no way married to that. I am 100% against making a move until the very last game we will play this season, that much to me should be in stone.

 

[gteeitup]

I'm not sure what your hoping to find but with the constantly changing line ups and general lack of direction on both O&D, anything resembling consistent improvement might be hard to find. jmo .. let me know if you do.

more about how it happened and if those things are still happening…what i saw vs stanford i don’t recall seeing that vs kansas, for sure…i do recall thinking how big a foul call on ec in that mich st game, but don’t recall how big a momentum shift it had…at those points early in the season i was probably hoping it was just about “big moments” and not being able to push through.

lol not that it will change my outlook, however.

 

[1heel4life]

If you recall during the initial interviews after accepting the HC job, he talked a lot about doing it his way (not sure what way that is since he was never a HC but perhaps now we see) so he couldn't do that with Steve on the staff. Perhaps Lebo just falls in line to show loyalty to him. I actually believe Jeff Lebo would be an awesome HC for us. He's a pretty good X's and O's guy. I know I'm in the minority on that.

You sure are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TarHeelFanWV]

Hubert says all the right things but can't get his players to do it.. not sure if that's on him or them. If the NIL is finally paying up, we gotta give Hubert 1 more year.. if next year isn't it, he's gotta go.

Next years team has a chance to be one of the great teams in recent years. Cadeau-Trimble-Powell-Wilson-Good portal center. Everyone will play their true position.

 

[NorCalTarheel]

Hubert says all the right things but can't get his players to do it.. not sure if that's on him or them. If the NIL is finally paying up, we gotta give Hubert 1 more year.. if next year isn't it, he's gotta go.

Next years team has a chance to be one of the great teams in recent years. Cadeau-Trimble-Powell-Wilson-Good portal center. Everyone will play their true position.

That is my hope as well but there are an awful lot of stops between here and there. We got to get Drake to stay. Heck we got to get EC and Seth to stay. We know how easy it is to find a quality five that fits our system in the portal, so that's not a given.


Fingers crossed that Carolina basketball returns to the standard that we all recognize for it.

 

[alabamaheel]

Hubert says all the right things but can't get his players to do it.. not sure if that's on him or them. If the NIL is finally paying up, we gotta give Hubert 1 more year.. if next year isn't it, he's gotta go.

Next years team has a chance to be one of the great teams in recent years. Cadeau-Trimble-Powell-Wilson-Good portal center. Everyone will play their true position.

I hate that Im being pessimistic but I don't think that five gets it done either, and I definitely wouldn’t label them as great even in recent years. I want to believe hd can get it done. He’s had some good players from the portal. I just believe it’s gonna take better talent than what we will have. Doesn’t matter where they play if true position or not. IMO there’s been too much smoke blown about pg1s and positions and not enough facts about the lack of talent and just not getting it done.

 

[heels05champs]

Hubert says all the right things but can't get his players to do it.. not sure if that's on him or them. If the NIL is finally paying up, we gotta give Hubert 1 more year.. if next year isn't it, he's gotta go.

Next years team has a chance to be one of the great teams in recent years. Cadeau-Trimble-Powell-Wilson-Good portal center. Everyone will play their true position.

I still think you’d have to grab a knock down perimeter shooter. That lineup has inconsistent shooters in the backcourt and yet again a small backcourt. I think a good center and good shooting guard/wing would be critical.

 

[notashelbyfan]

Hubert says all the right things but can't get his players to do it.. not sure if that's on him or them. If the NIL is finally paying up, we gotta give Hubert 1 more year.. if next year isn't it, he's gotta go.

Next years team has a chance to be one of the great teams in recent years. Cadeau-Trimble-Powell-Wilson-Good portal center. Everyone will play their true position.

Next might be great, but my concern isnt year its the next year, and just because it looks good on paper don't mean he can lead it. Remember we started #1 on the cover of Sports Illustrated, only to miss the tournament and decline the NIT.

He can't coach he's proven that all we are doing by giving him another year is setting us back by 3 more years.