Hubert says changes to coaching staff coming

[DaveChapelle]

Is that so tell me WTF he was even doing in the game at that point of the game to take a bad shot?

Go ahead i will wait, that wouldn't be the coach would it, or did players just start checking themselves in when they get ready to play?

Well since you don't understand basketball, I'll be happy to tell you.

Alabama's Grant Nelson was abusing every player we tried to guard him with. Withers was the only player who was having any success guarding him. So he was on the floor for defense and it was in fact working.

The problem is, Withers is a moron. He wasn't content with just playing his defensive role. So he took a shot he shouldn't have.

See, if you actually understood anything about basketball, you would never have had to ask that question. It all happened right in front of your eyes, but your potato brain couldn't understand it.

 

[sctarheel30]

Well since you don't understand basketball, I'll be happy to tell you.

Alabama's Grant Nelson was abusing every player we tried to guard him with. Withers was the only player who was having any success guarding him. So he was on the floor for defense and it was in fact working.

The problem is, Withers is a moron. He wasn't content with just playing his defensive role. So he took a shot he shouldn't have.

See, if you actually understood anything about basketball, you would never have had to ask that question. It all happened right in front of your eyes, but your potato brain couldn't understand it.

So withers is a moron ok who had him in the game and brought him here? Never mind save your fingers from typing it’s not gonna change anything with the present team and that was the past

 

[notashelbyfan]

Well since you don't understand basketball, I'll be happy to tell you.

Alabama's Grant Nelson was abusing every player we tried to guard him with. Withers was the only player who was having any success guarding him. So he was on the floor for defense and it was in fact working.

The problem is, Withers is a moron. He wasn't content with just playing his defensive role. So he took a shot he shouldn't have.

See, if you actually understood anything about basketball, you would never have had to ask that question. It all happened right in front of your eyes, but your potato brain couldn't understand it.

Well let's do this when UNC fires Hubert let see how many job offers he gets.

 

[heels05champs]

 

[DaveChapelle]

Well let's do this when UNC fires Hubert let see how many job offers he gets.

As long you can find someone to read the articles to you and explain what they mean. I'm getting tired of having to explain basic things that happen right in front of your face.

Like, how on earth could you have watched the sweet sixteen game and not know why Withers was on the floor? It was clear as day. He was the only guy doing a decent job guarding Nelson. Yet you actually asked that question?

Like I'm not hallucinating this am I? You actually typed that out? You actually asked why the only guy who could guard Grant Nelson was on the floor?

 

[Quest4Seven]

Why is it so hard for you to understand that you can't win high major basketball games without competent big men?

Why is this concept so hard for you to grasp?

You’re completely missing the point. If you want to say its hard to make the final four without competent big men i dont disagree. If he cant beat Stanford at home or keep a game against Clemson within 20 points despite having 4 McDAA’s in the rotation he shouldnt be coaching. When his clear deficiencies as a coach are exposed when he has roster limitations it should be clear that he isnt a good enough coach to have the best job in the country. If your only redeeming quality as a coach is that you can be successful with a perfectly constructed roster then you probably arent a very good coach. Not sure how old you are but I watched Roy Williams get a 3 seed with Bobby Frasor and Wes Miller as his starting backcourt, a good coach will figure it out

 

[notashelbyfan]

So withers is a moron ok who had him in the game and brought him here? Never mind save your fingers from typing it’s not gonna change anything with the present team and that was the past

See there again it goes back to coaching, that was the last game of the year if he hasn't figured out how to coach stupid shot selection out of a player by that time of the season that's on coaching.

But yet this year is he so bad that he is a major problem for this team but yet he was in the game with what you call a more UNC type roster, in a sweet 16 game. Make your mind up is it coaching this year or is it roster?

 

[Quest4Seven]

Well let's do this when UNC fires Hubert let see how many job offers he gets.

To coach basketball or to be a studio analyst?

 

[notashelbyfan]

As long you can find someone to read the articles to you and explain what they mean. I'm getting tired of having to explain basic things that happen right in front of your face.

Like, how on earth could you have watched the sweet sixteen game and not know why Withers was on the floor? It was clear as day. He was the only guy doing a decent job guarding Nelson. Yet you actually asked that question?

Like I'm not hallucinating this am I? You actually typed that out? You actually asked why the only guy who could guard Grant Nelson was on the floor?

So with what you called and more UNC type roster amd he was the only one that could guard one of their bigs in a sweet sixteen game but he is to bad to be even on the court this year.

Remind me again who is responsible for player development, or do we want to blame that part of Huberts faults on NIL also?

 

[tarwhiz]

Pat Kelcey can Coach, has wherever he has been. Now he is recruiting to Louisville like they are used to.
Louisville is solidifying themselves as the number two program in the ACC unless Carolina steps up its game

 

[NathanFielder]

To coach basketball or to be a studio analyst?

Being UNC analyst on radio might be the perfect job for him. (Kidding, I hope)

 

[DaveChapelle]

You’re completely missing the point. If you want to say its hard to make the final four without competent big men i dont disagree. If he cant beat Stanford at home or keep a game against Clemson within 20 points despite having 4 McDAA’s in the rotation he shouldnt be coaching. When his clear deficiencies as a coach are exposed when he has roster limitations it should be clear that he isnt a good enough coach to have the best job in the country. If your only redeeming quality as a coach is that you can be successful with a perfectly constructed roster then you probably arent a very good coach. Not sure how old you are but I watched Roy Williams get a 3 seed with Bobby Frasor and Wes Miller as his starting backcourt, a good coach will figure it out

No, you're completely missing the point. This is the least talented frontcourt in 60+ years. This is worse than the 8-20 team's frontcourt.

Stanford has arguably the best big man in the country. Clemson has arguably the best frontcourt in the ACC. Teams take advantage of our weaknesses. And this is the weakest UNC has been in the frontcourt in most of our lives.

Roy Williams got a 3 seed thanks mostly to the fact he had a freshman named Hansbrough, who is one of the greatest college big men to ever play.




So I ask again, Why is it so hard for you to understand that you can't win high major basketball games without competent big men?

 

[Quest4Seven]

As long you can find someone to read the articles to you and explain what they mean. I'm getting tired of having to explain basic things that happen right in front of your face.

Like, how on earth could you have watched the sweet sixteen game and not know why Withers was on the floor? It was clear as day. He was the only guy doing a decent job guarding Nelson. Yet you actually asked that question?

Like I'm not hallucinating this am I? You actually typed that out? You actually asked why the only guy who could guard Grant Nelson was on the floor?

Hey I was at that game in LA are we talking about that same game where he sat his 5 star point guard that ran the offense all year the majority of the 2nd half and played 10th man in the rotation Paxton Wojick his only meaningful minutes of the season in the most meaningful game of the season? Which made our all american shooting guard have to be the primary ball handler and it led to his worst shooting performance of the season? And he also benched his 6th man other ball handler who then entered the portal 2 weeks later?

 

[notashelbyfan]

No, you're completely missing the point. This is the least talented frontcourt in 60+ years. This is worse than the 8-20 team's frontcourt.

Stanford has arguably the best big man in the country. Clemson has arguably the best frontcourt in the ACC. Teams take advantage of our weaknesses. And this is the weakest UNC has been in the frontcourt in most of our lives.

Roy Williams got a 3 seed thanks mostly to the fact he had a freshman named Hansbrough, who is one of the greatest college big men to ever play.




So I ask again, Why is it so hard for you to understand that you can't win high major basketball games without competent big men?

Dave is this group of players a better team today than they were on November 4th?

 

[DaveChapelle]

So with what you called and more UNC type roster amd he was the only one that could guard one of their bigs in a sweet sixteen game but he is to bad to be even on the court this year.

Remind me again who is responsible for player development, or do we want to blame that part of Huberts faults on NIL also?

You really are just too dumb to understand the game aren't you?

Role players play a role. Withers role was to defend Nelson. He was doing the job the coaches taught him, until his dumb brain got in the way and told him to shoot a bad shot. Even the great Dean Smith wasn't capable of completely removing stupid decisions from a player's brain (see Brian Reese vs Cincinnati 1993.)

You should be able to identify with Withers. He tries to do what coaches tell him, but his brain inevitably lets him down. You try to discuss basketball, but your brain continuously lets you down.

 

[notashelbyfan]

You really are just too dumb to understand the game aren't you?

Role players play a role. Withers role was to defend Nelson. He was doing the job the coaches taught him, until his dumb brain got in the way and told him to shoot a bad shot. Even the great Dean Smith wasn't capable of completely removing stupid decisions from a player's brain (see Brian Reese vs Cincinnati 1993.)

You should be able to identify with Withers. He tries to do what coaches tell him, but his brain inevitably lets him down. You try to discuss basketball, but your brain continuously lets you down.

Is Withers a better player today than he was on the night of the Alabama sweet sixteen game?

 

[1heel4life]

FWIW, 40%, which I think is considered quite good, means only 4 out of 10, one more than 3 out of 10. This metric also comes at a higher volume of 3FGA for him as well, and a notable higher % of his FG takes are 3's. His FG%, FT%, RPG, and SPG all have positive bumps too. His A/TO has worsened though. Of note, last year, his live-ball consequential posessions (I'm defining that as FGA+A+TO) was 12.4/gm; 21/40min. This year (13 less games thus far), it's 17.4/gm; 24/40min.

FWIW, how many people with any friggin sense thinks a 30% three point shooter is a decent shooter. Give it up, DUDE!!!!! You believe that BS you are a fool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Quest4Seven]

No, you're completely missing the point. This is the least talented frontcourt in 60+ years. This is worse than the 8-20 team's frontcourt.

Stanford has arguably the best big man in the country. Clemson has arguably the best frontcourt in the ACC. Teams take advantage of our weaknesses. And this is the weakest UNC has been in the frontcourt in most of our lives.

Roy Williams got a 3 seed thanks mostly to the fact he had a freshman named Hansbrough, who is one of the greatest college big men to ever play.




So I ask again, Why is it so hard for you to understand that you can't win high major basketball games without competent big men?

You cant win without quality guard play either. And almost every coach in the country would trade their guards for Hubert’s guards. Unless youre Dook, Kansas or Kentucky youre going to have roster flaws. Every other coach in America is expected to make the best use of his roster and figure out a way to win. Why does the coach of the premier program not have to be held to the same standard? When Wilson comes next year but RJ, Jackson, and possibly Seth, Drake and EC are gone youll be whining about how hard it is to win without a good back court. He’s a terrible in-game coach and severely limited his staff by only letting former players be a part of it. If he’s going to be stubborn and put himself at a clear disadvantage in terms of player development and the X’s and O’s he better make sure he has the perfect roster every year. If you really believe you cant do that with your NIL or recruiting situation you better change your staff so that you can win games from
bench if you cant win on the court. He’s fumbled basically every aspect of running a successful program

 

[alabamaheel]

No, you're completely missing the point. This is the least talented frontcourt in 60+ years. This is worse than the 8-20 team's frontcourt.

Stanford has arguably the best big man in the country. Clemson has arguably the best frontcourt in the ACC. Teams take advantage of our weaknesses. And this is the weakest UNC has been in the frontcourt in most of our lives.

Roy Williams got a 3 seed thanks mostly to the fact he had a freshman named Hansbrough, who is one of the greatest college big men to ever play.




So I ask again, Why is it so hard for you to understand that you can't win high major basketball games without competent big men?

So it may be very difficult to win high major basketball games without competent big men, but you 100% don’t have to get curb stomped by them. Most all of our players have gotten worse. You or anyone else can’t argue that, and thats coaching.

 

[KeeLo]

FWIW, how many people with any friggin sense thinks a 30% three point shooter is a decent shooter. Give it up, DUDE!!!!! You believe that BS you are a fool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree 30% is not good. I apologize. It would've sufficed for me to state my opinion that a 12% 3FG% increase, in the midst of a higher volume of shots, is notable improvement. I personally was kind of surprised by that stat.

Again, I apologize for not stating my opinion more concisely and clearly.

 

[GoNtheDistance]

So you didn't contribute anything. Which means you are one of the reasons we couldn't afford to get UNC caliber big men.

Now I understand why you are perpetually angry and miserable. You recognize that your broke bank account is hurting UNC.

Dave send us proof of your donation to the collective…..I’ll wait.

 

[Sk1310]

We need to totally blow this thing up. The only player I want back is Drake. The only coach would be Marcus.

Why does Marcus get to stay? Our guards know they have to be the vocal point of this team. All I see is a bunch of guards who dribble too much and can't shoot.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

It's a pointless discussion.

It's a thought experiment.

Some people enjoy those, some don't. Why piss on those who do?

And if you think it's pointless, why jump in to discuss it?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

when UNC fires Hubert let see how many job offers he gets.

That's an interesting perspective. We probably won't get the chance to see, but I hope you revisit your question if that actually happens.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

So far, Hubert has alternated good and bad years. No guarantee that will continue, but if the right people return, and with our incoming class, and the portal ahead, next year should fit that trend and be an up year.

Then if the new staff and enhanced NIL do their job, maybe we can avoid the bad years, and Hubert will coach until he's in his 70s.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Why does Marcus get to stay?

Because we like him and there's no reason to think he's part of the problem.

 

[tarheels0015]

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Maybe he knows he getting canned !

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

“I told the guys how proud I am of them.”

Hubert Davis to his team trailing by 30

We lost @ Duke by 17.

Clemson beat Duke by 6 @ Clemson.

17+6 = 23

We only lost @ Clemson by 20, not 23.

A great moral victory.

 

[sctarheel30]

Why does Marcus get to stay? Our guards know they have to be the vocal point of this team. All I see is a bunch of guards who dribble too much and can't shoot.

Spot on

 

[sctarheel30]

We lost @ Duke by 17.

Clemson beat Duke by 6 @ Clemson.

17+6 = 23

We only lost @ Clemson by 20, not 23.

A great moral victory.

Man I love the silver lining

 

[notashelbyfan]

Im still waiting on @DaveChapelle to fill me in on if this team better today than they were on November 4th?

And is Withers better today than he was on the night of the Bama sweet sixteen game?

 

[big_deez]

You really are just too dumb to understand the game aren't you?

Role players play a role. Withers role was to defend Nelson. He was doing the job the coaches taught him, until his dumb brain got in the way and told him to shoot a bad shot. Even the great Dean Smith wasn't capable of completely removing stupid decisions from a player's brain (see Brian Reese vs Cincinnati 1993.)

You should be able to identify with Withers. He tries to do what coaches tell him, but his brain inevitably lets him down. You try to discuss basketball, but your brain continuously lets you down.

Honestly it gets old, blaming this loss on the "bad shot" by JWit, whatever makes people feel better I guess... JWit was wide open, and with RJ getting double teamed and missing everything all game, was it really the game changing moment? I do agree, not the best decision given his low % three ball but the loss should not be blamed on that one shot. Yes many DO lay blame on him. All game, there were many dumb, forced shots taken, specifically a certain someone that was 0-9 and overall 4-20, anyone? Yes, fans and the media called out JWit to where he made a public apology.

 

[alabamaheel]

Honestly it gets old, blaming this loss on the "bad shot" by JWit, whatever makes people feel better I guess... JWit was wide open, and with RJ getting double teamed and missing everything all game, was it really the game changing moment? I do agree, not the best decision given his low % three ball but the loss should not be blamed on that one shot. Yes many DO lay blame on him. All game, there were many dumb, forced shots taken, specifically a certain someone that was 0-9 and overall 4-20, anyone? Yes, fans and the media called out JWit to where he made a public apology.

I agree and in the heat of the moment I was frustrated with it. But didn’t even think about it much after that day. Heck I would have been frustrated if Danny green would’ve taken it and missed. No need for it that quick imo. BUT would’ve been nice for him to be there to take it lol

 

[big_deez]

I agree and in the heat of the moment I was frustrated with it. But didn’t even think about it much after that day. Heck I would have been frustrated if Danny green would’ve taken it and missed. No need for it that quick imo. BUT would’ve been nice for him to be there to take it lol

Yea I was frustrated too man, I guess he was wide open for a reason lol.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Honestly it gets old, blaming this loss on the "bad shot" by JWit ... not the best decision given his low % three ball but the loss should not be blamed on that one shot.

I agree. And given that JWit sports a 34% career 3pt%, maybe it wasn't all that terrible a choice. Yes, yes, last year he was worse than that, but still.... If you think you can make it and you're wide open...?

If that shot had gone in, nobody would be bitching about it or JWit.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Did Bennett have extra staff and a GM at Virginia? Did he have deep-pockets NIL?

We're hiring extra people to do things Hubert isn't good at or doesn't like to do. And giving him more money to spend on players.

I wonder if Bennett would return to UVa if they did the same for him?

Which makes me wonder why they (apparently) didn't do that for their very good coach.

 

[NathanFielder]

Honestly it gets old, blaming this loss on the "bad shot" by JWit, whatever makes people feel better I guess... JWit was wide open, and with RJ getting double teamed and missing everything all game, was it really the game changing moment? I do agree, not the best decision given his low % three ball but the loss should not be blamed on that one shot. Yes many DO lay blame on him. All game, there were many dumb, forced shots taken, specifically a certain someone that was 0-9 and overall 4-20, anyone? Yes, fans and the media called out JWit to where he made a public apology.

It's also quite the assumption that everything would've worked out if Withers passed the ball to RJ there. Withers missed the 3 (a bad decision) with 1:00 left. If he passed it back to RJ, they have 10 seconds left on the shot clock and there's 0 guarantee that anything good or bad comes out of that possession. Idk why fans have this assumption narrative when sports are inherently unpredictable, lol.

And I'll be a hypocrite now one second later, lol. In that game, UNC led 54-46 in the final minute of the first half. RJ missed a front end of a 1-and-1 at the end of the half so that was the score at halftime. UNC's next made FG came with 15:17 left in the 2H. So they went over 5:00 without making a FG and the score was 55-52 and Alabama was able to get back into the game. UNC's next made FG came at 12:49.

UNC lost that game in that 8+ minute stretch where they scored 1 FG and say a 54-46 lead became a 59-57 deficit where they missed 2 FT's, which included one front end of a 1-and-1. They had chances to put that thing away. They held Alabama, an elite offensive team, to 11 points over 8+ minutes. If they just executed better offensively during that 8+ minute stretch, then they probably win that game.

Easy to nit-pick one play late and oftentimes those games come down to late game execution. But their inability to score for that 8+ minute stretch led to a lot of bad things happening late.