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Ian Steere

Can you imagine the heads exploding , because those heads exploded?
Do you have to play contrarian on every single post? Just go back and read all the angst about the fact that we signed three 3* big men. If we sign another one, heaven forbid the response.

I simply believe our bigs will be a bit better than some do. And we'll need them to be.
 
The former.

It's fine to come up with these things, but the players actually buying into them is what's ridiculous. A bit of rational thought can easily see through that.
You'd think, but these are kids and if they are hearing it from multiple sources it's like listening to one politically-slanted news show for all your "facts."
 
Do you have to play contrarian on every single post? Just go back and read all the angst about the fact that we signed three 3* big men. If we sign another one, heaven forbid the response.

I simply believe our bigs will be a bit better than some do. And we'll need them to be.

You know me arch, I think rankings are wonderful starting points but they by no means tell the whole story. No one screamed, oh no, UNC just got Brice Johnson when he committed to us, none of our rivals feared our getting Marcus, any laughed when we got Meeks, they pretty much all laughed at our total bust of a recruiting class of Kenny and Luke. Pinson couldn't shoot, Joel was to small, Nate was a joke, Hicks was over ranked, and Justin was the only kid that was a real player. Tony had potential but he was a lot like Jeter who they loved before they saw he couldn't play.

I like to look at the rankings as a starting spot but past that I want to see the kid play, how he moves, does he attack or play soft, does he have the frame to fill out if he is a big man, is he nimble or slow feet, does he play over the rim, ect.

I do think all 3 of our frosh bigs can be big time in time, all 3 have bodies that can play right away rather than having to lose weight or gain it. ALL 3 would benefit from adding bulk and strength in future off seasons but all are in that 235-245 range now. I have no doubt that had we not had Meeks and Hicks Tony would have shown us more just by the additional PT he would have got, PT that our incoming frosh bigs will have the added advantage of. So I am expecting more from them just because they will have more opportunity, not because they are more talented than a kid like Tony was/is. I do think they can fit in to our area of need and I think we got good attitudes with them.

As I have as well said several times before, I am just as happy with Huffman and Brooks as I would be with any 4star ranked big man out there for this class and I would not feel that way if all I considered was where they were ranked and nothing more.
 
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You know me arch, I think rankings are wonderful starting points but they by no means tell the whole story. No one screamed, oh no, UNC just got Brice Johnson when he committed to us, none of our rivals feared our getting Marcus, any laughed when we got Meeks, they pretty much all laughed at our total bust of a recruiting class of Kenny and Luke. Pinson couldn't shoot, Joel was to small, Nate was a joke, Hicks was over ranked, and Justin was the only kid that was a real player. Tony had potential but he was a lot like Jeter who they loved before they saw he couldn't play.

I like to look at the rankings as a starting spot but past that I want to see the kid play, how he moves, does he attack or play soft, does he have the frame to fill out if he is a big man, is he nimble or slow feet, does he play over the rim, ect.

I do think all 3 of our frosh bigs can be big time in time, all 3 have bodies that can play right away rather than having to lose weight or gain it. ALL 3 would benefit from adding bulk and strength in future off seasons but all are in that 235-245 range now. I have no doubt that had we not had Meeks and Hicks Tony would have shown us more just by the additional PT he would have got, PT that our incoming frosh bigs will have the added advantage of. So I am expecting more from them just because they will have more opportunity, not because they are more talented than a kid like Tony was/is. I do think they can fit in to our area of need and I think we got good attitudes with them.

As I have as well said several times before, I am just as happy with Huffman and Brooks as I would be with any 4star ranked big man out there for this class and I would not feel that way if all I considered was where they were ranked and nothing more.

Once any young man signs with UNC, he is and will always remain a Five Star in my heart...
 
I posted this on FC in resposnse to a question about our incoming bigs. Now that Ive had the chance to watch a lot more of them.

My brain isnt working well enough to break down the minutes right now but-

Ive looked at a lot more tape of our incoming 3 bigs than any time previously. I havent been very into watching just been enjoying our title and figure whatever happens next year is gravy. well, after really watching all 3, I think we are going to be forced to play small ball. Brooks is clearly the most developed of the 3 , but looking at him and say someone like Hicks as a senior in HS is an absolute non comparison. Hicks looked worlds ahead of him and we saw he was most certainly not ready right away. In other words, in my humble opinion, we are in serious trouble down low.

The good news is if We can procure cam johnson we become a very dangerous small ball team and thats what I would bank on. Rotate the 3 bigs in/out hope one of them can contribute by the March and use the rest for fouls and banging down low. But I think Roy will have to go small and use our potent backcourt as the saving grace. I hope Im dead wrong, but I dont see this group of bigs being ready for some time.

27 Heeelz46, 2 minutes ago
 
I posted this on FC in resposnse to a question about our incoming bigs. Now that Ive had the chance to watch a lot more of them.

My brain isnt working well enough to break down the minutes right now but-

Ive looked at a lot more tape of our incoming 3 bigs than any time previously. I havent been very into watching just been enjoying our title and figure whatever happens next year is gravy. well, after really watching all 3, I think we are going to be forced to play small ball. Brooks is clearly the most developed of the 3 , but looking at him and say someone like Hicks as a senior in HS is an absolute non comparison. Hicks looked worlds ahead of him and we saw he was most certainly not ready right away. In other words, in my humble opinion, we are in serious trouble down low.

The good news is if We can procure cam johnson we become a very dangerous small ball team and thats what I would bank on. Rotate the 3 bigs in/out hope one of them can contribute by the March and use the rest for fouls and banging down low. But I think Roy will have to go small and use our potent backcourt as the saving grace. I hope Im dead wrong, but I dont see this group of bigs being ready for some time.

27 Heeelz46, 2 minutes ago
That's the worry.
 
I posted this on FC in resposnse to a question about our incoming bigs. Now that Ive had the chance to watch a lot more of them.

My brain isnt working well enough to break down the minutes right now but-

Ive looked at a lot more tape of our incoming 3 bigs than any time previously. I havent been very into watching just been enjoying our title and figure whatever happens next year is gravy. well, after really watching all 3, I think we are going to be forced to play small ball. Brooks is clearly the most developed of the 3 , but looking at him and say someone like Hicks as a senior in HS is an absolute non comparison. Hicks looked worlds ahead of him and we saw he was most certainly not ready right away. In other words, in my humble opinion, we are in serious trouble down low.

The good news is if We can procure cam johnson we become a very dangerous small ball team and thats what I would bank on. Rotate the 3 bigs in/out hope one of them can contribute by the March and use the rest for fouls and banging down low. But I think Roy will have to go small and use our potent backcourt as the saving grace. I hope Im dead wrong, but I dont see this group of bigs being ready for some time.

27 Heeelz46, 2 minutes ago
The good thing about our incoming bigs is they have more college ready bodies then Brice, Hicks, Henson, Meeks etc. that will def help them some in the post!
 
The good thing about our incoming bigs is they have more college ready bodies then Brice, Hicks, Henson, Meeks etc. that will def help them some in the post!

That's all well and good If they are just expected to bang own low and rebound. But attempting to run our traditional offense through any of these guys next year is a recipe for disaster in my opinion.
 
I agree with the last several poasts in this thread. Obviously our frontcourt is going to be young and weaker than usual. I have faith that by March, one or two of them will have logged the time, gotten the coaching they need and will be more than serviceable. Or maybe I'm just saying that to convince myself. But whatever the reason, it beats the shit out of belaboring the point that we have a weaker than usual rotation of bigs.

I also agree with the poaster above that stated that our bigs have more college ready bodies than some of our past bigs. That's a great point. It will allow them to work on their games more than concentrating on losing weight or building mass.
 
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We all have concerns about our young big men. They will take time to develop into the players they will eventually become. But even if they don't shine immediately, they will be serviceable.

As others have stated, they have college ready bodies, unlike most of the big men we see come in to UNC. That will help a lot.

I feel good about our chances of getting CJ, which as Heelz said will allow us to play a potent small ball team.

Plus, this year is gravy for me.
 
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New rankings out and he's in the 70's and the summer circuit hasn't even got fully cranked up yet. Kid will be a top 50 player by the time his senior year rolls around. Kid jumped 100 spots and is just now getting spotlight. Let him continue to show well through the summer.....we don't need to miss the boat on him. He's ours if we want him.
 
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He needs an offer like yesterday! With Cam on board for the next two years, a wing seems less necessary. I'd like to see Roy put all his attention on landing a post player to take the final 2018 scholarship. Someone like Ian Steere and Naz Reid should be prioritized moving forward IMO. We are pretty much set at the 1-3 positions in 2018. Need to add an impact post player.
 
He needs an offer like yesterday! With Cam on board for the next two years, a wing seems less necessary. I'd like to see Roy put all his attention on landing a post player to take the final 2018 scholarship. Someone like Ian Steere and Naz Reid should be prioritized moving forward IMO. We are pretty much set at the 1-3 positions in 2018. Need to add an impact post player.

I hear what you're saying, but, it's no guarantee that CJ will be here for two years.
 
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Is Steere an impact post player!
I have no idea if he will be but if you simply base it off rankings, he is rated much higher than the three bigs we just signed. And with his great athleticism, I think his ceiling is very high.
 
Steere is much more talented than any of the freshman bigs we have coming in. If you need anything to support that, just check the video of Steere throwing it down on Huffman's head from a few weeks back. I was at the game and Steere was head and shoulders better than Huffman who folks are counting on to be a player for us. To put it in perspective, folks like Kansas, Oregon, etc are on this kid at this point. They see what everybody else has seen that has seen him play. Kid is a player and would fit nicely in our system.
 
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Steere is much more talented than any of the freshman bigs we have coming in. If you need anything to support that, just check the video of Steere throwing it down on Huffman's head from a few weeks back. I was at the game and Steere was head and shoulders better than Huffman who folks are counting on to be a player for us. To put it in perspective, folks like Kansas, Oregon, etc are on this kid at this point. They see what everybody else has seen that has seen him play. Kid is a player and would fit nicely in our system.

How many times did he dunk on Huffman? 5 times?
 
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really squared him up and rammed it down his throat once, another time from the side which Huffman tried to make a play on but wasn't very successful but not a full on facial. A few other times Huffman made the decision to not end up on a poster and just stood there.
 
really squared him up and rammed it down his throat once, another time from the side which Huffman tried to make a play on but wasn't very successful but not a full on facial. A few other times Huffman made the decision to not end up on a poster and just stood there.

agreed.
 
I don't think we should pull HUffman's offer although I sense your sarcasm. I actually think Huffman will be a big time body for us in the post for 4 years and worth a scholly. Brooks in the same boat. The one that just doesn't excite me at all is Manley. I think the kid has experienced too much by way of injury to every be anything for us. I sincerely hope he proves me wrong
 
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Had read about but not seen these dunking videos before.

http://ballislife.com/unc-commit-gets-dunked-on/

Is this what everyone is all excited about? One is a breakaway that is not really on Huffman at all, and the other Huffman went for a block on the passer, so couldn't recover to Steere in time. Maybe Steere dominated the rest of the game, but those two plays are not what I would call dominating Huffman.
 
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The dunks in that clip are indicative of the talent disparity between the 2. Those who saw the game live would say the same thing.
 
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