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I couldn't agree more.

Now how, or it it even possible, to change that?

Good question. More long form interviews, and better public education so people learn how to think critically would be a start. Less advertising based news would be a big help. The patreon model seemed like it could help, but that leads to echo chambers when small media outlets just cater to their patrons.

I like to hope that podcasts will make an impact.

A friend of mine, who is uuuuultra liberal-minded, always listens to Democracy Now! So, I just assumed it was like MSNBC on steroids or something. But, after listening to it a few times, I was surprised how they actually manage to be, what I consider, more objective. They try to be critical of both, and any and all.

Liberal is a subjective term ;)

In all seriousness, many young progressives are critical of the left. Not because we’re further to the left than the Democrat’s platform, but because we don’t believe they embody the principles they claim to be defending. I don’t believe the DNC represents me or my views. I believe they represent the people funding their campaigns. We could all benefit by being more critical of our own side of the aisle. I’m a registered independent, but I spend far more time thinking about problems in the DNC than problems with the GOP.

Shows like that which are critical of both sides and present both ends of the debate are hopefully going to be the future. We tend to straw man each other and assume we know their views instead of letting people state them for themselves. People on this board attack me for being “ultra liberal” but I hold many views that would probably surprise a lot of people. I’m not for open borders, and I don’t hate rich people, nor do I think women should be able to have elective abortions in the third trimester. I don’t think able bodied people should get welfare unless they are actively seeking work. I don’t think white people are collectively guilty of oppressing black folks today. Just to provide a few examples.
 
Good question. More long form interviews, and better public education so people learn how to think critically would be a start. Less advertising based news would be a big help. The patreon model seemed like it could help, but that leads to echo chambers when small media outlets just cater to their patrons.
I agree, especially with regard to teaching critical thinking. I think we've gotten away from that and IMO, it's the key to everything.
Liberal is a subjective term ;)

In all seriousness, many young progressives are critical of the left. Not because we’re further to the left than the Democrat’s platform, but because we don’t believe they embody the principles they claim to be defending. I don’t believe the DNC represents me or my views. I believe they represent the people funding their campaigns. We could all benefit by being more critical of our own side of the aisle. I’m a registered independent, but I spend far more time thinking about problems in the DNC than problems with the GOP.

Shows like that which are critical of both sides and present both ends of the debate are hopefully going to be the future.
I pray that his is the case.
We tend to straw man each other and assume we know their views instead of letting people state them for themselves.
Amen, I think we're all guilty of this at times. It's something I'm really trying to avoid doing.
People on this board attack me for being “ultra liberal” but I hold many views that would probably surprise a lot of people. I’m not for open borders, and I don’t hate rich people, nor do I think women should be able to have elective abortions in the third trimester. I don’t think able bodied people should get welfare unless they are actively seeking work. I don’t think white people are collectively guilty of oppressing black folks today. Just to provide a few examples.
We've actually got a lot in common. I've gotten a better appreciation of you from our interaction today and gained more respect for you opinions. And not just because I've agreed with many of your opinions, but because we've been able to exchange views amicably.

As long as we can converse civilly with others, especially with those who may have differing opinions, for that is where it is most needed, there is nothing that is unsolvable.
 
Good question. More long form interviews, and better public education so people learn how to think critically would be a start. Less advertising based news would be a big help. The patreon model seemed like it could help, but that leads to echo chambers when small media outlets just cater to their patrons.



Liberal is a subjective term ;)

In all seriousness, many young progressives are critical of the left. Not because we’re further to the left than the Democrat’s platform, but because we don’t believe they embody the principles they claim to be defending. I don’t believe the DNC represents me or my views. I believe they represent the people funding their campaigns. We could all benefit by being more critical of our own side of the aisle. I’m a registered independent, but I spend far more time thinking about problems in the DNC than problems with the GOP.

Shows like that which are critical of both sides and present both ends of the debate are hopefully going to be the future. We tend to straw man each other and assume we know their views instead of letting people state them for themselves. People on this board attack me for being “ultra liberal” but I hold many views that would probably surprise a lot of people. I’m not for open borders, and I don’t hate rich people, nor do I think women should be able to have elective abortions in the third trimester. I don’t think able bodied people should get welfare unless they are actively seeking work. I don’t think white people are collectively guilty of oppressing black folks today. Just to provide a few examples.
I was being facetious about DM. They're pretty biased. However, they are more critical of the Democratic Party than I expected. They deserve it, too.
 
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I agree, especially with regard to teaching critical thinking. I think we've gotten away from that and IMO, it's the key to everything.

I pray that his is the case.
Amen, I think we're all guilty of this at times. It's something I'm really trying to avoid doing.

We've actually got a lot in common. I've gotten a better appreciation of you from our interaction today and gained more respect for you opinions. And not just because I've agreed with many of your opinions, but because we've been able to exchange views amicably.

As long as we can converse civilly with others, especially with those who may have differing opinions, for that is where it is most needed, there is nothing that is unsolvable.

I think there’s a common ground to be found in American politics that would upend both parties. Sadly idk if there will ever be a candidate capable of inspiring trust on both sides, even if they do adopt that platform.

I’m starting to be convinced by the argument that we shouldn’t even have a president. Having a popularity contest to determine the leader of the free world does feel antiquated.
 
I’ve never seen that show so it went right now over my head lol
A friend of mine who is a luthier over in Anderson is who turned me on to it.

Did you ever go to Draisen-Edwards music in Anderson much before they sold their store to Music & Arts? He used to do all of their repairs. He builds guitars and violins and repairs virtually everything with strings.
 
I think elections still represent more than popularity, even today when politicians and media people are rock stars.

Voting is still by far and away the fairest way to select leaders. The alternatives are much worse, ergo why the vast majority of civilized countries use that system.
 
We've actually got a lot in common. I've gotten a better appreciation of you from our interaction today and gained more respect for you opinions. And not just because I've agreed with many of your opinions, but because we've been able to exchange views amicably.

As long as we can converse civilly with others, especially with those who may have differing opinions, for that is where it is most needed, there is nothing that is unsolvable.[/QUOTE]

Am I in the twilight zone?
 
Maybe we can keep tagging all the original poasters in this thread and draw them in.
 
A friend of mine who is a luthier over in Anderson is who turned me on to it.

Did you ever go to Draisen-Edwards music in Anderson much before they sold their store to Music & Arts? He used to do all of their repairs. He builds guitars and violins and repairs virtually everything with strings.

Negative. I don’t go out to Anderson very often tbh
 
I think elections still represent more than popularity, even today when politicians and media people are rock stars.

Voting is still by far and away the fairest way to select leaders. The alternatives are much worse, ergo why the vast majority of civilized countries use that system.

I don’t disagree there. I’m just not sure electing a single person is the best option. A parliamentary style executive branch works in many places. And they still have to be elected. At the very least we need to restrict executive authority again. The POTUS has way too much power IMO
 
The majority of Americans have never listened to podcast, much less a podcast that would compete with traditional news outlets.

There's a better chance this message board brings down mainstream media than there is of podcasts doing so.
 
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The majority of Americans have never listened to podcast, much less a podcast that would compete with traditional news outlets.

They’re steadily gaining popularity. I would wager that a majority of Americans under 35 have listened to a podcast.
 
The majority of Americans have never listened to podcast, much less a podcast that would compete with traditional news outlets.

Every single person I know and younger than me listens to podcasts. Honestly, I can't think of one person.

I'm 35.
 
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Every single person I know and younger than me listens to podcasts. Honestly, I can't think of one person.

I'm 35.

Also have to consider the number of people who are cutting the cord now and don’t even have cable/satellite television. I’m sure there will always be a place for mainstream media networks, but they’ve already taken a big hit and their popularity is likely to continue dropping IMO.
 
Every single person I know and younger than me listens to podcasts. Honestly, I can't think of one person.

I'm 35.
I don't, so now you know one person. I'm willing to bet the people you hang around aren't representative of the majority of Americans as well. I don't mean that as an insult. I'm just saying that life in a big city, especially your area, is not like the rest of the country.
 
Also have to consider the number of people who are cutting the cord now and don’t even have cable/satellite television. I’m sure there will always be a place for mainstream media networks, but they’ve already taken a big hit and their popularity is likely to continue dropping IMO.
Cable companies will be around as long as they continue to control the internet. With the rise of the cost of streaming, I think you're going to see the amount of cord cutters slow as well.
 
I’m 33 and I’ve never listened to one. Are they just on satilite radio? I’m honestly ignorant on the whole podcast fad.

Wow man, you're missing out.

There is literally a podcasts app on your iphone (if you have one) and they are all free. Get into them, you'll wonder what you ever did before them.

Ted Talks, Pod Save America, Pardon My Take, Bill Simmons Podcast, One Shining Podcast, and Stuff you Learned in History class is a good start.
 
Podcasts are fine if you have a decent amount of time behind the windshield. Other than that, they are not worth the effort.
 
Cable companies will be around as long as they continue to control the internet. With the rise of the cost of streaming, I think you're going to see the amount of cord cutters slow as well.

That’s a good point. One of the big reasons why net neutrality is so important.

There’s also been a lot of talk about micro transactions to support independent media. Instead of paying for a 10/month subscription, you pay something like .02 to access an article. An intermediary payment platform like PayPal would prevent people from having to give out CC info
 
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Podcasts are fine if you have a decent amount of time behind the windshield. Other than that, they are not worth the effort.
That’s when I listen to them; drive time.
But I typically don’t listen to news in podcasts. Maybe sports related, or a subject of interest but not news or politics.
 
Wow man, you're missing out.

There is literally a podcasts app on your iphone (if you have one) and they are all free. Get into them, you'll wonder what you ever did before them.

Ted Talks, Pod Save America, Pardon My Take, Bill Simmons Podcast, One Shining Podcast, and Stuff you Learned in History class is a good start.

One shining podcast is great. I need to listen to that one more.
 
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Podcasts are going to bring down the mainstream media. Long form interviews allow for a more sophisticated and nuanced discussion of any topic, and don't force people to condense their work into 5 minute sound bites.

By making that statement, you're assuming the general public want to put that time and effort into being informed. I don't believe that's the case. People like the 3 minute videos. It makes them feel like they're tuning in without inconveniencing them. The current media format fits well with the current American's attention span. The media has tailored their message as well as the format to best serve the majority. It's as much a people problem as it is a media problem. The two have created a cycle that will be difficult to break. People want their news fast and easy so the media gives it to them that way. And then the people continue to want it that way because that's how the media is delivering it.
 
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Serious question: What did you do before them? Because I'm well aware of them and simply have no interest in listening to them. I have plenty of other interests to occupy my time.

Mostly listened to music. However, since 99.999999999% of new music is trash, I find that podcasts occupy that time rather well.
 
Mostly listened to music. However, since 99.999999999% of new music is trash, I find that podcasts occupy that time rather well.
Yeah, it seems like a lot of people listen to podcasts in the car (or during their commute). Just me personally, but the last thing I want to listen to in the car is people blabbing on and on about anything. I can't stand talk radio, be it sports or news or politics or whatever.

There has never been an easier time to find great music. Its creation and distribution has been completely democratized. If you think all new music is trash, you're simply not looking...er, listening...hard enough.
 
Yeah, it seems like a lot of people listen to podcasts in the car (or during their commute). Just me personally, but the last thing I want to listen to in the car is people blabbing on and on about anything. I can't stand talk radio, be it sports or news or politics or whatever.

There has never been an easier time to find great music. Its creation and distribution has been completely democratized. If you think all new music is trash, you're simply not looking...er, listening...hard enough.

Can't disagree with anything you said there...if you're not into sports/news talk, podcasts definitely won't be your thing.

I do agree also that it's great that music, even old music (I'm a 60s/70s music guy) is so accessible these days.

That said, if you're into sports/news radio at all, podcasts will be for you.
 
My phone rings to much for pod cast. Hard enough to listen to music.

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The only people who still actually call me are people trying to sell me Google adwords and my mom.

*Insert GSD/Terror Beard joke "yeah, your mom is the only one that calls me too"
 
The only people who still actually call me are people trying to sell me Google adwords and my mom.

*Insert GSD/Terror Beard joke "yeah, your mom is the only one that calls me too"

The dipshit alcoholic president of the hoa for the condo complex i manage insists on calling me half a dz times a day for the most mundane shit. I tell him over and over hes the only person on the planet that still calls me and how texting is so much easier. Finally he has started texting me but he only uses voice command and since he drinks like a twelve pack a day and eats oxy he slurs his words so the texts are...interesting. So now he texts me THEN calls me to tell me what he meant to text. Smfh
 
Look, I like using text too. But part of humanity’s issues can be linked to our need for quick communication versus our need for meaningful communication.

I’m a face-to-face kind of guy. My profession probably allows for it more so than many of y’all but I’ll always choose a real convo over some back and forth through text. And don’t even get me started on “text talk”. I had to tell an employee of mine that I’d fire her ass if she kept up with that shit. If you can’t bring yourself to type out the words “thank you” instead of “TY”, then kill yourself.
 
There has never been an easier time to find great music. Its creation and distribution has been completely democratized. If you think all new music is trash, you're simply not looking...er, listening...hard enough.
Agree. Music on the radio is so garbage but there are so many options to get to the stuff you really like.
 
If there is anything that will take down traditional media, it's social media. I saw a study a while back and there was a rising number of younger people getting their news there. Which I think is not good. The algorithms are built to show you things you like instead of both sides. It's basically an echo chamber, so you won't get both sides of the story unless you actively seek it out.
 
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If there is anything that will take down traditional media, it's social media. I saw a study a while back and there was a rising number of younger people getting their news there. Which I think is not good. The algorithms are built to show you things you like instead of both sides. It's basically an echo chamber, so you won't get both sides of the story unless you actively seek it out.
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