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With Duke so far ahead it makes me think he plans to take a good bit of time to see if he wants to declare there early or move on. Wouldn't be surprised to see a november duke announcement there.
 
With Duke so far ahead it makes me think he plans to take a good bit of time to see if he wants to declare there early or move on. Wouldn't be surprised to see a november duke announcement there.

Maybe. His dad did say he will take all official visits and commit in the spring. You could be right though. Its a pretty big gap
 
Maybe. His dad did say he will take all official visits and commit in the spring. You could be right though. Its a pretty big gap
If he takes all the visits I would feel safe saying he eliminated Duke already when he gets to the others.
 
His dad did indeed say he would be taking all official visits also seem to remember him or washingtons dad saying they would not commit until after all visits and a family discussion. I could be wrong though.
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If he takes all the visits I would feel safe saying he eliminated Duke already when he gets to the others.

I agree. Duke is the only visit during the early signing period, which is a tad interesting. Let's see what happens. I can't see him committing without knowing who's leaving and staying at Duke.
 
I thought he's said all along he's going to be a spring commitment? If that is the case, I will surely be glad to have him take his last OV with us.

Also, he'll get to see Dook play against mighty Virginia State in an exhibition game. Meanwhile we face off with a very competitive team in Notre Dame.
 
With Duke so far ahead it makes me think he plans to take a good bit of time to see if he wants to declare there early or move on. Wouldn't be surprised to see a november duke announcement there.
That goes against everything I've read up to this point on Knox's plans.
 
With Duke so far ahead it makes me think he plans to take a good bit of time to see if he wants to declare there early or move on. Wouldn't be surprised to see a november duke announcement there.

I would
 
Agreed. This sets up well for UNC. If JJ has a big year and leaves, it'll only help Carolina's chances. Seems like Knox will wait long enough to see how each teams roster will look.

You know, I didn't even think of the timing and how that relates to JJ and it's such a good point. By February Knox is going to have a really good idea if JJ is leaving for the NBA and Roy can sell those available minutes hard to Knox.

I'm predicting an All-American type season for JJ and Roy being able to say "this is you if you come here" is huge.
 
With Duke so far ahead it makes me think he plans to take a good bit of time to see if he wants to declare there early or move on. Wouldn't be surprised to see a november duke announcement there.

Not going to be a commit before the spring, he has to see what the rosters look like on the schools he is considering. He will watch for Tatum, Justin, maybe Theo.
 
I agree. Duke is the only visit during the early signing period, which is a tad interesting. Let's see what happens. I can't see him committing without knowing who's leaving and staying at Duke.
This is sorta my thinking. At the time he visits UNC, If he follows through and does, he'll have a much better idea of the landscape.
 
You know, I didn't even think of the timing and how that relates to JJ and it's such a good point. By February Knox is going to have a really good idea if JJ is leaving for the NBA and Roy can sell those available minutes hard to Knox.

I'm predicting an All-American type season for JJ and Roy being able to say "this is you if you come here" is huge.
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Pretty sure Tatum will be gone. and so will Jackson. I think a lot may depend on who commits to which school in the meantime as well. another interesting thing is what if UNC can snag PJ? what will that do? Ive read reports that hed be willing to play with PJ, and others say he wouldn't.
 
That was my point. DSouthr's argument that he will want to have a feel for what the roster will look like has to be true. But Jayson's status will not be a factor - he will not be back for another year.
 
everyone feeling like this comes down to UNC v Dook for Knox?

I may be one of the few that doesn't, I honestly think it comes down to duke vs Ky for the kid and that he wants to see who stays and who doesn't before making up his mind resulting in a spring commit.

The the duke physics fellas that does not think Tatum's decision impacts Knox, I disagree. The sell that we will use you like we use Knox, and that is what K is selling, works when Tatum is no longer there. I do agree that Tatum will not be there for more than a season but you never know.
 
Pretty sure Tatum will be gone. and so will Jackson. I think a lot may depend on who commits to which school in the meantime as well. another interesting thing is what if UNC can snag PJ? what will that do? Ive read reports that hed be willing to play with PJ, and others say he wouldn't.

It is an interesting question, in many ways they are some what similar in that both feature more a face up game. PJ seems to define himself as more of a stretch 4 and Knox defines himself as a wing but I think both will be used similar to how we use Justin and Theo. At times packaged with 2 other bigs and at times with only 1 in more a traditional 4 look. PJ is not just physically strong but I think longer than KNox and more suited to the 4 than Knox may be, Knox IMO is more like Justin.
 
The the duke physics fellas that does not think Tatum's decision impacts Knox, I disagree. The sell that we will use you like we use Knox, and that is what K is selling, works when Tatum is no longer there. I do agree that Tatum will not be there for more than a season but you never know.

I understand your point here and don't disagree with you except that Tatum leaving is not on the list of things he is watching, it is on the list of unpredictables that would change things drastically - and you can't wait around for those. K/Roy retiring is arguably as likely as Tatum staying. Retirements are also not things we need to wait to see if it happens - it'd be something that he'd be made aware of well in advance and would change the landscape of his decision. It's not the same as waiting to see if a guy that's MAYBE going to leave after his junior year sticks around.
If you are saying Tatum staying = Knox not coming then I agree. But a kid doesn't wait to see if a certainty actually happens. Duke could go on NCAA probation and no one is waiting around to see if it happens. There is a long list of things that Knox isn't considering because they either ARE or ARE NOT going to happen and Tatum leaving is on that list.
Let me ask you this, are we going to have to wait on Carter to make his decision until he's sure Giles is gone? I think the clear answer is no, and Giles has a couple of (ACL) issues that Tatum doesn't.
My point here is not that I think you are wrong - in fact I don't think you are wrong (if you mean what I think you mean). I just wouldn't say Knox is waiting on Tatum and Jackson. These are two VERY different situations. Knox may be waiting on Jackson.
 
I understand your point here and don't disagree with you except that Tatum leaving is not on the list of things he is watching, it is on the list of unpredictables that would change things drastically - and you can't wait around for those. K/Roy retiring is arguably as likely as Tatum staying. Retirements are also not things we need to wait to see if it happens - it'd be something that he'd be made aware of well in advance and would change the landscape of his decision. It's not the same as waiting to see if a guy that's MAYBE going to leave after his junior year sticks around.
If you are saying Tatum staying = Knox not coming then I agree. But a kid doesn't wait to see if a certainty actually happens. Duke could go on NCAA probation and no one is waiting around to see if it happens. There is a long list of things that Knox isn't considering because they either ARE or ARE NOT going to happen and Tatum leaving is on that list.
Let me ask you this, are we going to have to wait on Carter to make his decision until he's sure Giles is gone? I think the clear answer is no, and Giles has a couple of (ACL) issues that Tatum doesn't.
My point here is not that I think you are wrong - in fact I don't think you are wrong (if you mean what I think you mean). I just wouldn't say Knox is waiting on Tatum and Jackson. These are two VERY different situations. Knox may be waiting on Jackson.
I'll tell you what I'm waiting for, your neverending list of hypotheticals post to finish. And I also can't wait until JJ jacks a 3 in Tatum's face. Physics at dook. Does it get any nerdier than that?
 
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I'll tell you what I'm waiting for, your neverending list of hypotheticals post to finish. And I also can't wait until JJ jacks a 3 in Tatum's face. Physics at dook. Does it get any nerdier than that?

I was reading his post smh, like wtf is this dude rambling on about?
 
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I mean honestly. If I didn't already have a bourbon in hand it might have ruined my day. That's how dookie it was.
 
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I understand your point here and don't disagree with you except that Tatum leaving is not on the list of things he is watching, it is on the list of unpredictables that would change things drastically - and you can't wait around for those. K/Roy retiring is arguably as likely as Tatum staying. Retirements are also not things we need to wait to see if it happens - it'd be something that he'd be made aware of well in advance and would change the landscape of his decision. It's not the same as waiting to see if a guy that's MAYBE going to leave after his junior year sticks around.
If you are saying Tatum staying = Knox not coming then I agree. But a kid doesn't wait to see if a certainty actually happens. Duke could go on NCAA probation and no one is waiting around to see if it happens. There is a long list of things that Knox isn't considering because they either ARE or ARE NOT going to happen and Tatum leaving is on that list.
Let me ask you this, are we going to have to wait on Carter to make his decision until he's sure Giles is gone? I think the clear answer is no, and Giles has a couple of (ACL) issues that Tatum doesn't.
My point here is not that I think you are wrong - in fact I don't think you are wrong (if you mean what I think you mean). I just wouldn't say Knox is waiting on Tatum and Jackson. These are two VERY different situations. Knox may be waiting on Jackson.

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I understand your point here and don't disagree with you except that Tatum leaving is not on the list of things he is watching, it is on the list of unpredictables that would change things drastically - and you can't wait around for those. K/Roy retiring is arguably as likely as Tatum staying. Retirements are also not things we need to wait to see if it happens - it'd be something that he'd be made aware of well in advance and would change the landscape of his decision. It's not the same as waiting to see if a guy that's MAYBE going to leave after his junior year sticks around.
If you are saying Tatum staying = Knox not coming then I agree. But a kid doesn't wait to see if a certainty actually happens. Duke could go on NCAA probation and no one is waiting around to see if it happens. There is a long list of things that Knox isn't considering because they either ARE or ARE NOT going to happen and Tatum leaving is on that list.
Let me ask you this, are we going to have to wait on Carter to make his decision until he's sure Giles is gone? I think the clear answer is no, and Giles has a couple of (ACL) issues that Tatum doesn't.
My point here is not that I think you are wrong - in fact I don't think you are wrong (if you mean what I think you mean). I just wouldn't say Knox is waiting on Tatum and Jackson. These are two VERY different situations. Knox may be waiting on Jackson.
Dude that must be some good stuff you smoking!! You are tripping!!!! :confused:
 
I understand your point here and don't disagree with you except that Tatum leaving is not on the list of things he is watching, it is on the list of unpredictables that would change things drastically - and you can't wait around for those. K/Roy retiring is arguably as likely as Tatum staying. Retirements are also not things we need to wait to see if it happens - it'd be something that he'd be made aware of well in advance and would change the landscape of his decision. It's not the same as waiting to see if a guy that's MAYBE going to leave after his junior year sticks around.
If you are saying Tatum staying = Knox not coming then I agree. But a kid doesn't wait to see if a certainty actually happens. Duke could go on NCAA probation and no one is waiting around to see if it happens. There is a long list of things that Knox isn't considering because they either ARE or ARE NOT going to happen and Tatum leaving is on that list.
Let me ask you this, are we going to have to wait on Carter to make his decision until he's sure Giles is gone? I think the clear answer is no, and Giles has a couple of (ACL) issues that Tatum doesn't.
My point here is not that I think you are wrong - in fact I don't think you are wrong (if you mean what I think you mean). I just wouldn't say Knox is waiting on Tatum and Jackson. These are two VERY different situations. Knox may be waiting on Jackson.

Soooo, ya telling me that Tatum not to the NBA = no Knox to duke but Knox is not waiting till spring to see if Knox leaves or not?

Sooo ya telling me that Tatum to the NBA is an absolute certainty no matter what happens this coming season? Gosh, I wish I could read the future with such absolute certainty, would ya happen to have the next set of mega bucks lotto numbers handy? I believe the truth actually is that Tatum one & done is the plan and extremely likely but twists & turns in the world of sports do not always turn out as expected and a kid like Knox not only is but is smart in wanting to be 100% sure and not truth it to someones crystal ball.

And as for carter waiting on Giles, funny you use that as example considering that Carter has not officially announced himself as a dukie as of yet? Yes, we all expect that to happen but until it does it ain't.
 
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