When did I say that I "frequently purchase illegal items on the black market?" I couldn't possibly be less concerned with what you believe. Go download a tor browser, learn a few things then you can come back and tell us all about what you learned.
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When did I say that I "frequently purchase illegal items on the black market?" I couldn't possibly be less concerned with what you believe. Go download a tor browser, learn a few things then you can come back and tell us all about what you learned.
Holy shit. You're not actually serious are you?
You realize there is some middle ground between the simplest form of "life" and a fully developed human infant right?
I know this is way off topic but I can't help it that fetus as you call its heart starts beating at 3 weeks but yet its not considered life or alive but yet you will say that a single cell organism on Mars is life and is alive wow!
What are some of the ways you'd suggest or approve of?
Is registration of firearms and licensing for owners/operators, along the lines of what we use for vehicles, really a non-starter for you?
You do realize the word organism literally means "an individual animal, plant, or single-celled life form" right???
I never said that a fetus wasn't alive. I said that it wasn't a baby. Not all things that are alive are human babies. Obviously a fetus is not sentient. Which makes it much more similar (in a biological sense) to a single cell organism on Mars than it is to a fully developed human infant. Try taking that three week old fetus out of the womb and see how long it can survive for. I understand that fetuses eventually develop into infants, but to say there is no difference between a three week old fetus, and a fully developed and conscious infant, is morally absurd.
*End of side track
This seems like an important time to point out that the "slippery slope" is a fallacy and not a type of legitimate logical argument.
I can't imagine why any sane, rational person would be opposed to what you proposed. Its just the paranoid types who think the "libs" are coming for their guns and any step towards legislation must be opposed.
So you're admitting that those people that do that are killing them?
I mean that is what you said!
They are terminating a pregnancy. They are eliminating a dependent organism from their bodies before it develops to a certain point. You or I have no right to tell a woman that they have to carry a pregnancy to term.
If you think an abortion is morally equivalent to murdering a two year (for example) then this gap is going to be too wide for us to bridge, and this conversation is a waste of time.
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I didn't say anything about hunting. If you can't defense yourself with a shotgun or simple rifle then you are incompetent or up against a force that is too big for an individual (like a swat team or bigger). Unless there is a literal army in your household you are going to lose to the Swat team, even with a 50-caliber.
I feel like the right to have a gun becomes an "all or nothing" perspective. Do you see any middle-ground on right to have weapons, or do you think you should be able to own one of these - http://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/PredatorM134handheld-2.jpg ?
Because this thread has run its course now, I'm going to do my best to derail it.
First of all, Predator is one of the most bad-ass movies in the history of film. And next to that Native American fella, he's the most bad-ass character in that movie. As for the gun, yes, I think I should be able to own one but no one else. I want all the fun. I love how it he just mows shit down in a couple scenes.
really good article written by a liberal journalist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...3edca6-a851-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...3edca6-a851-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html
Not true ... a simple glance down the trousers takes care of that one. Look south, then follow the sign.
Ok. Tor network is like the facebook for dark web. It's not exactly the spot to peruse the black market. It's popular among dark web newbies and wannabe hackers. Nobody would or should trust anyone there isn't some kind of poser if trying to obtain illegal items. And the dark web isn't synonymous with the black market either. The black market has channels that have been around much longer than the web. I think gsd may have a point here about your "knowledge."
I'm well aware of how the deep web works. I suggested a tor browser because that is the jumping off point for most people who access the deep web for the first time. I was assuming he had never been on it, so I made that suggestion as a joke. FFS I can't believe I'm having to explain that.
Obviously the black market is not restricted to the deep web and vice versa. I have zero firsthand experience with black market dealings on the deep web. But that is where most illegal transactions now occur. Its either the deep web using cryptocurrency, or connections you make by networking with people who deal in illegal goods. Which is why its extremely difficult to find black market guns. This isn't like buying a bag of weed from your local dealer. These people don't just randomly take on new clientele.
This is a stupid argument to be having. Nobody with any experience in the black market is ever going to provide any kind of proof to substantiate their claims (especially on the internet), because that would be incriminating evidence against the person in question.
... The gun used was an actual assault rifle. Illegal in all 50 states since the 1930s. Whatcha wanna do, make it more illegal? I don't think the bad guy cared very much. Of course we could just make murder illegal and that'll solve all the shooting problems
Assault weapons (including fully automatic) are not illegal in all 50 states. We have already discussed this. With the proper tax stamp and background check, an ordinary citizen can purchase a fully automatic assault rifle. But don't bother fact checking or anything like that.
Well then I assume you know tor is just a small part of the "deep" web and is dark web only. And the dark web is a small, more popular part of the deep web. I'm very familiar with both as my job requires me to be so. And yes, most people only access dark web resources because they are easier. No one shops for much of anything illegal there except for pot. And you most certainly begin your transaction to buy weapons (even the automatic kind) on the deep web. You just won't finish it there and likely would be meeting up with someone. I know plenty about how one might go about doing so, I just would not ever attempt such a thing on my own because I'd have no way of verifying the selling party. But people who want to usually ask enough questions and can get to a broker who will set things up for them. Terrorist organizations do this quite often and it's not a big secret to security organizations. And if you are motivated, like I said before, you can do it. It's just a dangerous game I'd never think of doing. I'm also not going to go shoot up a bunch of people, so....
Up until the silk road was shut down, there were marketplaces for just about everything on tor. Including guns and even mercenaries (almost certainly a sting op). So I completely agree about the security, but people definitely were shopping for all kinds of things, even just on tor. Pot is actually less popular with the online drug brokers, because its bulky and smells, which makes it hard to ship. 1000 dollars worth of pot would be a bitch to pack/ship. 1000 dollars worth of cocaine/MDMA/heroine ect. will fit in the palm of your hand.
What do you do that requires familiarity with the deep web? If you don't mind my asking that is... I'm assuming something to do with security, but you're the first person I've actually talked to that needed that knowledge for work. Unless they were a drug dealer lol
I don't mind at all. I am a IS Security and Compliance consultant. Right now my biggest contract is with a company that deals strictly in the crypto currency market. They need it all from security of their firewalls, systems, messaging, etc right down to PCI compliance for their merchant services. They deal a lot with the Chinese and if you are familiar with the crypto market, you know they are being constantly attacked online. Most of the chatter for that type of stuff starts right on deep web.
Well, this has certainly gotten interesting. Way too much BS to parse through and rebut, besides, I actually enjoyed some of the discussion. Nice to "discuss" a controversial topic without the name calling.
Anyway, now that we have landed someone who will push us to the #1 recruiting class in 2018 in basketball, I am off to the basketball board to read up.
Go 'Heels!
Anyway, now that we have landed someone who will push us to the #1 recruiting class in 2018 in basketball, I am off to the basketball board to read up.
Go 'Heels!
I love to nerd up and will do so whenever given the opportunity. But you are right, it's a conversation killer.
I think it's good to know that you can come to OOTB to get tips on how to buy drugs and hire a hitman.
but i can't get deep into the interwebz so ygfy
Don't feel too bad. Now that Experion has been hacked and everyone's personal information is on the dark web, the place has really gone to hell anyway.
Nah. That dude is an idiot. Plus I have a shotgun firing range close to my house.
My theory: it's gonna come out that this dude wanted to shoot up a country music concert because he hates Republicans.
I reaaaaaally hope that isn't true. It's just my theory based on some stuff I've seen and read. If that truly turns out to be his motive, this country is fukked. Relations between normal people (non politicians) from opposing parties are already bad enough. You'd be surprised how many people won't even consider being friends with, or dating, someone who is a Republican if they're a Democrat, or vice versa. It's gotten way out of hand.
I reaaaaaally hope that isn't true. It's just my theory based on some stuff I've seen and read. If that truly turns out to be his motive, this country is fukked. Relations between normal people (non politicians) from opposing parties are already bad enough. You'd be surprised how many people won't even consider being friends with, or dating, someone who is a Republican if they're a Democrat, or vice versa. It's gotten way out of hand.
That would be extremely messed up if true. But it wouldn't surprise me.
I try to avoid political discussions with just about everyone I work with or know socially just because people are sooooo vocal with their hate these days, whether it's extreme left or right. I usually avoid them on OOTB for the same reason.
Well the dude had booked two rooms on an upper floor in a Chicago hotel back in the summer during the lollapalooza festival. But never showed up. Additional searching of his computers revealed that he had also googled up hotels around Fenway. So it looks like he simply wanted a large captive audience with which he could pick off as many innocent people as possible. Apparently Vegas worked best for him since he was such a heavy gambler (in fact his rooms were comped by Mandalay Bay).
Right, but without that who will be there to stop the law enforcement officer or government agent that goes off the deep end? If they ban guns altogether do we really believe that those entities will be disarmed as well?
I'm not sure how canadas can be considered better service when people can wait for months for service. I don't know enough about the UKs system to speak intelligently on it. Both have significantly smaller populations than the US - do you think that system scales well?
Pretty sure we've already had this conversaition in the Newsom thread. @Raising Heel provided some good research in that thread. In the end though, the scale is what the problem would be in my opinion.
I don't see any reason to assume that it wouldn't. They also have significantly fewer hospitals, doctors, ect.
