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Meeks

last I checked this is same RW who "coached" Brice...who considered transferring, same HOF RW..the AD did not have a problem signing a new contract, same RW who praises his own when warranted...whatever happened to the truth?...isnt ACC basketball,Tobacco Road, bigtime-ESPN 24/7...is RW being unfair? was he unfair to JP Tokoto? Sean May?...even RW adjusts..I recall at the beginning of this basketball year there were cheers RW isnt messin around...at this point a Man has gotta do what a Man's gotta do(players and coaches)....remember former football coach at Colorado said," this aint intramurals!"
 
Roy on his radio show last night told a story of fans heckling Meeks. Not sure what was said & don't really care. It ended with Roy saying "You're either with us or against us.... Period, The End."
I agree 100% with coach. A lot of fans don't realize how important Meeks is to this team, more importantly, next years team.
 
I sure don't know the details but wonder if Meeks is in a stressful and confusing place for himself on this team. I sense that he may still be hurt as others have said but wants to contribute and help win and start and play as many minutes as possible that maybe he is masking his injury or not being entirely honest with team trainers etc And maybe he believes he can gut it out and contribute in a big way. I assume he is scared about shutting it down this season or having a surgery both for impacts this year and what it might do for his stock as a basketball player playing for money somewhere someday.

But if he is going to continue to be used this year i wish they'd move him off the low block to the FT line more where he doesn't clog the lane. Even then I worry about his defense and rebounding against quicker players.
 
Roy on his radio show last night told a story of fans heckling Meeks. Not sure what was said & don't really care. It ended with Roy saying "You're either with us or against us.... Period, The End."
I agree 100% with coach. A lot of fans don't realize how important Meeks is to this team, more importantly, next years team.

Very important to next years team.
 
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Yeah Kids hurt get off his back some he is doing what he can and still makes some plays
 
If Meeks was hurt he wouldn't be playing. His play has simply diminished as others have elevated their play.

The issues with Meeks were evident before he missed games earlier this he's with injury. Look I think Meeks is a piece of the puzzle but he shouldn't be getting many minutes. He's just not been consistently productive for us.
 
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I have a Buddy that knows his mother well, He is in fact hurt, that is fact.. He is struggling mentally with it as you can see, scared to test it, he will be fine..
 
There is a huge difference between being hurt and struggling mentally. His mental struggles surely have something to do with him getting hurt and missing time, paired with the fact that Hicks has stole his minutes in a big way. I think we all know that given Meeks limited productivity, Roy wouldn't be playing a kid that was hurt. That's ridiculous.
 
If he is indeed hurt , you must limit his minutes and give them to that monster Hicks ! I love Meeks but if he is limited than you must limit his minutes until he is healthy !
 
If he is indeed hurt , you must limit his minutes and give them to that monster Hicks ! I love Meeks but if he is limited than you must limit his minutes until he is healthy !

Uhhh, that's what Roy is doing.
Meeks has played 11 and 10 min in the two tourney games, his lowest game time all season.
Hicks has played 21 and 22 minutes and accumulated 4 fouls in each game.
So, Kennedy's minutes are being spread out, but not really to Isaiah because he's only good (on average) for another 4-5 min before he fouls out!
Theo on the other hand has seen a jump in playing time, esp in smaller line-ups.
 
I don't disagree with being smart about Hicks minutes until he develops some maturity on the defensive end to stay out of foul trouble. I just can't get on board with the few folks who say Kennedy is hurt. So you guys that say Kennedy is hurt must also acknowledge that you think Roy is playing a kid that is hurt? I'm not buying it.

Only thing hurt with Kennedy is his confidence.
 
you can be hurt and play its done every day in every level of sports.. If you think Kennedy went from 20/10 plus against Temple to I cant make a layup and that is not due to pain that keep on thinking it..
 
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Temple? Really? Come on Space. Meeks has never been a stud for us, let's not pretend otherwise. the limitations we see now are the same ones we've always seem. Lack of motor, no lift, slow feet, marginal defender overall, liability on ball screens, etc.

Do I think he's 100% mentally and physically? no
Do I think he's hurt? no
 
I have a Buddy that knows his mother well, He is in fact hurt, that is fact.. He is struggling mentally with it as you can see, scared to test it, he will be fine..
This is 100% correct.

I just had to assume this speculation on my part (and others') was true. Like someone said, its not like he's out of shape or getting gassed from the minutes. I think he's got a big heart and great attitude, and is doing all he can to contribute. I agree with other posters who say we should cut him some slack. It must be killing him mentally if he is giving all he can, and playing through pain, but not mentioning, not making an excuse. Just like Marcus last year. Then it is tough hearing people rip on him, when he can't defend himself really with the info of how much pain he might be going through.

Again, though, he seems to have fine lift during warmups.... dunking easily from a standstill or on the run.

Here's hoping a week off will help him as much as possible.... to the extent that rest, icing, etc can help. I know from my kids in sports with leg injuries.... playing through them without the right time to heal, is just a tough proposition. Its not likely he can give us a lot more this year.

I hope he comes back as a healthy beast next year. I like the thought of a healthy Meeks and Hicks as our bigs, with the new guys coming in.
 
I bet some of these poster wasn't hating on Meeks when he had 12 points & 14 rebounds @ Dook a few weeks ago.
I don't see how anyone can say the kid has no motor after the weight he's lost. I'm proud to have Meeks as a Heel & hope like hell he returns for his senior season.
 
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Yeah he is the type of guy that is going to get a lot of grief because he isn't a leaper or doesn't hit the ground for loose balls, but he will be needed for this to get completed...
 
There is a huge difference between being hurt and struggling mentally.
there's not a huge difference. the hardest part of recovering from an injury is often the mental part, especially if it's an area like the knees where re-injury could have lasting impact.
 
If Meeks was hurt he wouldn't be playing. His play has simply diminished as others have elevated their play.

The issues with Meeks were evident before he missed games earlier this he's with injury. Look I think Meeks is a piece of the puzzle but he shouldn't be getting many minutes. He's just not been consistently productive for us.

When it was announced that Meeks had the bone bruise and was held out of several games Roy told us that it occurred before the season began and that he tried to play on it but struggled to. Maybe they pulled him from that set of games to see if it could heal or at least get tolerable that he could play with it, those games then were not as important as the games now are. I can accept that this pre-season injury rather than getting better has gotten progressively worse and that he is just doing the best he can to play thru the pain and maybe the fear of hurting it more.

Now as this season has progressed, I have been very critical of his play, I mean with no official word of what the kid is struggling thru the fact he is struggling is crystal clear for all of us to see. We know the kid is a top notch player, we know we have not been getting anything close to that in his play, we know something is wrong. But with no official word all we have is his play to consider, fans would be MUCH more understanding if we knew officially he is dealing with a painful injury. That is not to question those telling their sources say it is the injury but I do feel we should be told so the critisims of the kid would back off.

I recall when it was announced he was being held out of some games for a bone bruise, I kinda poopooed it, a bone bruise, a bruise, you can not play because you have a booboo. Something to that ilk was how I took it but someone on this board shared how serious a bone bruise can be and that many times it ends up needing micro surgery. That same person shared that it is not something that being held out of 4 or 5 games would allow for total healing or even healing to any significent extent, I fess guilty to not knowing that. But from what I see the kid is dealing with something very difficult to handle physically, he is a shadow of the player we have seen, he isn't even the player we saw when he was way over 300lbs, so something is way wrong clear to see.

People poopoo ankle sprains all the time but get one of those high ankle sprains and you will deal with it the whole season, it depends on the grade of sprain and location of the sprain and maybe this bone bruise thing is similar if not worse. Maybe the amazing thing is that the kid is playing as well as he is, I sincerely hope that at least when the season is done that Roy will tell us officially what the deal is with the kid, I think we all want to know officially. I for one would feel much better about next season knowing this is something that Meeks can over come in this off season and we get a solid player back in our front court next season along with Hicks. Without an official explaination of what is going on with him I do not feel good about our front court for next season, not at all and I do not want to feel that way, I need some official word of what is going on with Meeks, I need that badly.
 
there's not a huge difference. the hardest part of recovering from an injury is often the mental part, especially if it's an area like the knees where re-injury could have lasting impact.

Oh I absolutely agree, 1million % agree ! I had major shoulder reconstruction for a shoulder that popped out on average of 2-3 times a year. The surgery was successful per my doc, I didn't have the total range of motion I once had but it was strong if not stronger than before according to my doc. Problem is, with as many extremely painful dis-locations as I had in the past, I could never trust that again, I do not to this day and that is over 20yrs ago. It amazes me guys come back from these serious joint injuries and play as well as they do, i don't know how you get to that level of trust that you can play with the same wreckless abandon you did before the injury, with that same level of disreguard for your body or injury. Now I was older when I finally had mine done, maybe if I had it done directly after the injury things would have been different but it still amazes me.

So yeah, the mental aspect at least for me was much harder to deal with than the physical aspect, you never forget things like diving in to the deep end of a pool and your shoulder seperating, you can never forget that feeling that death is my reality right now. I seperated it once rolling out of my water bed, now still when I get out of bed I pause for a brief second and I get a twinge of fear just getting out of bed. So yeah, I get the mental aspect of an injury, I get that all to well...
 
Roy wouldn't be playing a kid that was hurt. That's ridiculous.

So you guys that say Kennedy is hurt must also acknowledge that you think Roy is playing a kid that is hurt? I'm not buying it.

Only thing hurt with Kennedy is his confidence.
Paige played hurt all last year but knew the team needed him. I think Meeks is doing the exact same thing...
IDUNK has this right, I think.

I assume Roy wouldn't be playing Kennedy (or Marcus last season) if he thought playing would endanger the kid - so GNtD is right in that sense - but playing with discomfort when playing won't exacerbate the injury is perfectly normal in most sports.

What's odd about Kennedy is his maladies are so vague. Did we ever learn what the problem was last year? This year all I've heard was "bone bruise." But what does that mean, really? Why would it keep him from giving 100% this long after he took time off for it?

Is this one of those things that will require surgery in the off-season? Sometimes people play with such ailments. They are hampered but can play and playing won't make it worse. Pinson seemed to be in that situation for much of last season, and then it got too bad to keep playing.
 
I do think that we will need one "big game" from Meeks to cut down the nets somewhere along the way, something in the 10 pts 8 rebound range.
 
I do agree with DSouth about bone bruises. It's such a vague injury. I had one in college and frankly it was a nuisance for a few weeks but nothing major. I have heard others struggle with it quite a bit. I really think it's confidence with Kennedy. I want to be positive about it but he's been "injured" the last 2 years right when we started consistently playing better competition and his play diminished. Coincidence? I don't know but it should be noted in this debate.
 
I don't even know if / how you can "bruise" a bone. You can fracture or break a bone.... you can bruise muscles, damage nerves, bruise or tear ligaments, but "bruising a bone" would seem similar to bruising a steel rod.
 
Regardless of what is going on Meeks will need to play as tough as he can tomorrow. These games have proven you need to man up as aggressive play is being rewarded. Time for Kennedy to give all he's got. We have seen in the past some of that toughness.
 
A "bone bruise" is a misnomer. It is actually the fracturing of the inner layer of bone, the spongy material and not the outer material. The inside material take longer to heal and playing basketball actually will prolong the healing process and may cause more damage. It takes months for it to heal properly.
 
A "bone bruise" is a misnomer. It is actually the fracturing of the inner layer of bone, the spongy material and not the outer material. The inside material take longer to heal and playing basketball actually will prolong the healing process and may cause more damage. It takes months for it to heal properly.

Thanks, question, is it worse or better depending on the bone that is bruised? I think with Meeks it was his knee, I assume that means knee cap maybe?

Maybe just getting older but over the last 5yrs or so I have tripped and landed squarely on each of my knee caps at seperate times. Hurts really bad and I still can not stand much pressure on either knee cap, not comfortable at all for me to be on either knee on a floor. I am wondering if this is something similar, if it is then I can for sure understand that it limits him jumping and could very well need surgery to repair.
 
Kennedy is a beast. The outlet pass play from the ND game was so sick, and he was so fired up. We need him to be a beast in the FF too and everyone needs to bring the energy and intensity.

As Kennedy so clearly said, "COME THE HECK ON!"

Thank you Kennedy and everyone else on a great season so far... Let's keep going!

That awesome play concludes this highlight from the game. Gives me the chills, what great energy there!

 
Yes SIR!!! KM has been hurting this year no doubt .Great way to step up in crunch time On to Monday night!!!
 
I have doubted Meeks toughness at times but he has really stepped up in NCAA. Was glad to see him flush one.
Will need another solid performance from him on Monday.
 
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