NC gets hosed by NCAA seeding committee IMO. Toughest bracket.

[TheGLOV]

If K-Rat had done the same, with his dookies, they'd have kept them just where we are but the level of competition would have been watered down like a glass of cheap scotch!

Kentucky
Indiana
WVU
Providence (don't sleep on them) They are getting healthy. Hopefully USC can do us a favor.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

If K-Rat had done the same, with his dookies, they'd have kept them just where we are but the level of competition would have been watered down like a glass of cheap scotch!

Kentucky
Indiana
WVU
Providence (don't sleep on them) They are getting healthy. Hopefully USC can do us a favor.

Glov, I agree with your post. Also, it is NOT the NCAA Seed that counts (AT ALL). Rather, it is the bracket that a team is placed into. We got the TOTAL SHAFT in my view!

 

[gary-7]

If K-Rat had done the same, with his dookies, they'd have kept them just where we are but the level of competition would have been watered down like a glass of cheap scotch!

Kentucky
Indiana
WVU
Providence (don't sleep on them) They are getting healthy. Hopefully USC can do us a favor.

Grant Hill agrees with you.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

Grant Hill agrees with you.

East Region has 4 Top Ten teams... No one else has more than 2!


A) True

B) False

 

[gary-7]

Glov, I agree with your post. Also, it is NOT the NCAA Seed that counts (AT ALL). Rather, it is the bracket that a team is placed into. We got the TOTAL SHAFT in my view!

This one seems to be yet another of the Committee's little tricks they apparently think are cute or something --- ooh. let's match traditional powers IU and UK who hate each other in the second round, and let the winner play UNC, who they both hate. Just like they thought it was cute to constantly put us in with Kansas once Roy came home.

Funny thing is, right after the ACC Championship game a buddy asked me who I thought they'd put in our bracket. I immediately said UK, IU and WVU. I've guess I've seen this movie too many times.

 

[coryfly]

Just win. You have to beat good teams to take the prize.

 

[coryfly]

Teams like Providence, IU, and UK would have scared me more a few weeks ago. Our perimeter defense (our PGs especially) has been outstanding defensively lately. Bring 'em on. We can lose but they have to play us as well. No one wants that right now. I think our team doesn't GAF and wants to take on everyone. We'll see if they are up to it.

 

[gary-7]

Teams like Providence, IU, and UK would have scared me more a few weeks ago. Our perimeter defense (our PGs especially) has been outstanding defensively lately. Bring 'em on. We can lose but they have to play us as well. No one wants that right now. I think our team doesn't GAF and wants to take on everyone. We'll see if they are up to it.

Agreed. And in all our championships we've had to run a gauntlet.

 

[Steat]

The only team that concerns me is Kentucky. Those fans will pay premium for tickets and would have 75% of the fans in the gym for the Elite 8 game in Philly.

 

[heels05champs]

The only team that concerns me is Kentucky. Those fans will pay premium for tickets and would have 75% of the fans in the gym for the Elite 8 game in Philly.

True. It'll absolutely be a home game for uk. I don't like the potential sweet 16 matchup with IU or UK. Definitely think UNC got a screw job.

 

[DSouthr]

If K-Rat had done the same, with his dookies, they'd have kept them just where we are but the level of competition would have been watered down like a glass of cheap scotch!

Kentucky
Indiana
WVU
Providence (don't sleep on them) They are getting healthy. Hopefully USC can do us a favor.

Bob, when I get the chance to really break down all the brackets, maybe I agree. But for now, I am not upset, yeah, look like we got 3 good games ahead of us but the real messed up part isn't who we have to play. If I am looking at this purely neutral, those teams in our bracket should be screaming bloody murder that the committee screwed them by putting them in our bracket!

I say this because I don't see any of the teams that I would have preferred not to see unto; the elite 8 or final 4, those teams being any of the other 1 seeds and MSU, Okey, Md, Cal, Texas if Ridley is healthy, or Iowa or Iowa st. WVu strikes me as our biggest test and that would be a elite 8 game unless I am mistaken?

 

[Realfreedom]

I told my son Saturday afternoon before we beat UVA that we would either be with Kansas or Kentucky in the same bracket. Since we earned a 1 spot Kentucky is it. Had we been a 2 seed we would have somehow found our way into the Kansas bracket.

We proved last weekend that if this team plays with heart and desire, great things can happen. Grit has been the missing key for this team at times, but we are clicking right now.

I would still like to see the 3 ball start going down more, but other than that we are where we need to be at this time of the year. My biggest concern is with the officiating as we move forward. I do think we will have to win some 5 versus 8 games, because I do not think the NCAA wants a program that is still being looked at to win it all.

That second round match up with Providence could be dicey.

 

[keysersosay#1]

Tough bracket no doubt.. BUT you gotta beat the best to be the best

Bring em on!!!!!

 

[Archer2]

From Mike DeCourcy of Sporting News on why the East Regional is the toughest:

"Seriously, the committee that put together this bewildering NCAA bracket might as well have gone ahead and asked Steph Curry and the guys give it a go this March. Because the East couldn't get much tougher than it already is.

North Carolina, Kentucky, Indiana — two of those teams will be gone after the Sweet 16. Guaranteed. No do-overs. Add to that the menace of No. 2 seed Xavier and No. 3 seed West Virginia.

How would you like to do the math?

KenPom style? The top five seeds in the East Region have an average rank of nine in the Ken Pomeroy system. The South and West are an average 12, and the Midwest is a 16.

Old-world AP style? Four of the top five seeds in the East are in the Associated Press top 10, with an average rank of nine. The Midwest has two top-10 teams and average rank of 10, the South an average of 11 and the West a 14.

How about league championships? There are 12 total championships available in the six top leagues: ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC. The East won 4½ of those, the South got three, the West 2½ and the Midwest just Kansas’ double in the Big 12."

Nuff said. This should lay to rest any discussion about which region is the toughest.

 

[jah420]

Good lord, ever SINGLE year we hear people saying all this conspiracy stuff and that we got shafted and blah blah blah. If you aren't ready to beat ANY team in the country, then you aren't ready to bring home a national title, bottom line.

 

[Spacegrass]

Providence in the 2nd game. IU or UK in the 3rd game. Potentially WVU in the E8.

Potential Providence matchup reminds me of 2009 the 2nd round matchup against Marcus Thornton and LSU. West Virginia worries me the least but by no means an easy one. UNC can outskill them for days but if we don't bring the hard hats and take care of the ball strongly. They could pull the upset. Will be the toughest team from a physicality standpoint we play all year if it happens. IU presents a lot of the same problems the Dookies gave us. UK has the type of backcourt that can run you thru 6 games ala UCONN despite being a weak front court. UNC is going to have to really earn this one.

 

[jah420]

True. It'll absolutely be a home game for uk. I don't like the potential sweet 16 matchup with IU or UK. Definitely think UNC got a screw job.

Just a reminder as well, that every team we lost to this year is in the tournament, EXCEPT Louisville who would have been. UK on the other hand, lost to the following teams:

UCLA - 15-17 this season
Tenn - 15-19 this season
Auburn - 11-20 this season

 

[gary-7]

Providence in the 2nd game. IU or UK in the 3rd game. Potentially WVU in the E8.

Potential Providence matchup reminds me of 2009 the 2nd round matchup against Marcus Thornton and LSU. West Virginia worries me the least but by no means an easy one. UNC can outskill them for days but if we don't bring the hard hats and take care of the ball strongly. They could pull the upset. Will be the toughest team from a physicality standpoint we play all year if it happens. IU presents a lot of the same problems the Dookies gave us. UK has the type of backcourt that can run you thru 6 games ala UCONN despite being a weak front court. UNC is going to have to really earn this one.

Sorry, but UK's backcourt is good but overrated. They're being compared within a league of mediocrity. We just played and beat a better one Saturday.

 

[Deezheelz]

Damn yall, man up!!! We ain't skeered of nobody! We are the North Carolina Tar Heels! People fear us, not the other way around. SMH!

 

[SeaHawk98]

Good lord, ever SINGLE year we hear people saying all this conspiracy stuff and that we got shafted and blah blah blah. If you aren't ready to beat ANY team in the country, then you aren't ready to bring home a national title, bottom line.

Its not a conspiracy if 2 Dook guys are on the committee.

 

[StubbornPenny]

UK fan here. We all got hosed in this bracket. Insane we could have UK-UNC in the S16, insane to have UK-Indiana in the round of 32. Insane that you could have to play Kris Dunn in the second round. Insane that you could play Notre Dame the dreaded "four times in a season." Ultimate screw job. for everyone. That region is far too stacked.

 

[gary-7]

UK fan here. We all got hosed in this bracket. Insane we could have UK-UNC in the S16, insane to have UK-Indiana in the round of 32. Insane that you could have to play Kris Dunn in the second round. Insane that you could play Notre Dame the dreaded "four times in a season." Ultimate screw job. for everyone. That region is far too stacked.

We only played ND twice, but you are correct, sir.

 

[tarheel0910]

 

[gary-7]

Not so much. It is what it is and it's pretty obvious.
Again, we've seen this movie before.

 

[tarheel0910]

Not so much. It is what it is and it's pretty obvious.
Again, we've seen this movie before.

I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks that the NCAA is conspiring to hold UNC down is not being rational. They have no reason to do so. Considering that UNC is a cash cow for them it would be beneficial for them to help, not hurt UNC.

 

[#1Wildcatfan4life]

I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks that the NCAA is conspiring to hold UNC down is not being rational. They have no reason to do so. Considering that UNC is a cash cow for them it would be beneficial for them to help, not hurt UNC.

Don't count on it. They've done the same thing to us over and over. See 2011 and 2014 for recent examples.

 

[dadika13]

I disagree. The bottom half of our bracket is easy as hell. Xavier and WVU are probably the weakest 2/3 seeds.

Win 3 games and we will have the easiest Elite 8 game.

 

[tarheel0910]

Don't count on it. They've done the same thing to us over and over. See 2011 and 2014 for recent examples.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

I don't care about seeds or brackets! I see what happened, I just don't care. puke gets a break and we get hosed, so what?

UNC doesn't fear ANY team!

The way we are playing we can beat ANY team!

If we get through this gauntlet, we will be seasoned and ready to take it all!

Let's just start this freakin' thing!

Go Tar Heels!

 

[#1Wildcatfan4life]

You seriously don't think the NCAA seeds some of the teams for storyline purposes? They always do. A possible UK-IU 4/5 matchup when we should've been a 3 seed and IU should've been a 4. On top of that, the winner gets UNC. That's nothing more than made-for-TV blue blood matchups. If it wasn't for the potential storylines, us and Texas A&M would've been switched up as it should have been.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

You seriously don't think the NCAA seeds some of the teams for storyline purposes? They always do. A possible UK-IU 4/5 matchup when we should've been a 3 seed and IU should've been a 4. On top of that, the winner gets UNC. That's nothing more than made-for-TV blue blood matchups. If it wasn't for the potential storylines, us and Texas A&M would've been switched up as it should have been.

I do completely agree with this. keeping TAMU paired with Texas for a potential 2nd rounder, and UK/IU with the winner getting UNC is clearly staged. Pretty evident that the SEC championship had no bearing on the seeds at all. UVA and MSU meeting for a chance to go to the final four - when MSU has knocked out UVA the last 2 years, that's a marketing ploy. Then UNC-MSU in the final four... again, they love those stories. Followed up by KU-UNC in the finals - which we all know that storyline.

 

[RoseHeel]

Definitely not an easy bracket but what did you expect? The NCAA has cemented the fact that they only care about making ratings and storylines over logical matchups. Were any of you actually thinking we were going to get aid from them with our bracket? Hell remember our first matchup last year?

At the end of the day, we're going to have to put up or shut up. This could've been a lot worse for us anyway. One win at a time. I believe in this team.

On Another Note: They have taken the cake for making the most "storylined" bullshit matchups this year. Some that I noticed on first glance:

Duke/UNCW (All North Carolina matchup)
Texas/UNI (Which team that beat UNC is better)
Duke in a easy Bracket (Just mirroring the fact that they do this every year)
IU/UK in the second round
Texas/Texas A&M in the second round
IU or UK vs UNC
Michigan St & Viriginia in the same bracket for the (3rd?) straight year.

Probably a few more I'm missing.

 

[coryfly]

I disagree. The bottom half of our bracket is easy as hell. Xavier and WVU are probably the weakest 2/3 seeds.

Win 3 games and we will have the easiest Elite 8 game.

This is definitely a worthy point. I like Xavier as our 2 and WVU is tough but we play three PGs big minutes and love to play a fast game so their pressure could be tough but UNC could exploit it for easy scores as well. The top half is kind of loaded but if they get through that they may have an easier road than other 1 seeds in the final game.

 

[tarheel0910]

You seriously don't think the NCAA seeds some of the teams for storyline purposes? They always do. A possible UK-IU 4/5 matchup when we should've been a 3 seed and IU should've been a 4. On top of that, the winner gets UNC. That's nothing more than made-for-TV blue blood matchups. If it wasn't for the potential storylines, us and Texas A&M would've been switched up as it should have been.

I do think that the committee can create some matchups from time to time for storyline purposes when given a choice. However, doing that is a far cry from actively trying to hurt one team every year.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Guys, we don't got to beat the whole dern bracket, just whoever is in front of us at that time. SURVIVE an ADVANCE!

GO HEELS!!

 

[heelmanwilm]

Its not a conspiracy if 2 Dook guys are on the committee.

Omg just stop it.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

Just win baby.

 

[strummingram]

These tournaments are SUPPOSED TO BE ENTERTAINING!

Who wouldn't potentially want to see UNC vs. Kansas for the title game? That is swimming in legacy. 1957, Roy and Dean being Kansas associated. It's endless. And, yes, they want the blue bloods playing each other. Who doesn't?

Playing cupcakes doesn't make you a strong team. Beating good teams makes you great. We have beaten good teams now. I'd rather win a title by beating UK, or Indiana, or Kansas, than by beating Xavier, Gonzaga, or Baylor! If you get there by playing no one, then by the time you're in the Final Four, you're toast. And, make no mistake about it; when other teams see UNC win the ACC conference and tourney by humiliating Notre Dame and beating ANOTHER #1 seed team? They are much more concerned about us than we are of them!

 

[hills5]

If K-Rat had done the same, with his dookies, they'd have kept them just where we are but the level of competition would have been watered down like a glass of cheap scotch!

Kentucky
Indiana
WVU
Providence (don't sleep on them) They are getting healthy. Hopefully USC can do us a favor.

I always find it entertaining to see how every school talks about how they got screwed in their brackets. On some of the Kansas boards they are talking about their screw job (9 KenPom top 25 teams, several uber-talented hot teams, and being the overall #1 but not given the Midwest region). It's especially entertaining because outside of UNC most people think ESPN heavily favors Duke first but UNC second. How many non-ACC announcers are there on ESPN (or ACC homers like Vitale)?

The fact is this time of the year everyone sees potential problems in their bracket because every team is good. I didn't want to see California anywhere near us but I also didn't want to see UK. Odds are, you'll get someone that scares you. And how often does the bracket played out as expected? I remember years where I hated the bracket only for there to be 1000 upsets opening up the path to the final four.

It's all part of the fun of the tourney and part of the debate.

But seriously, KU got screwed.

 

[Archer2]

I disagree. The bottom half of our bracket is easy as hell. Xavier and WVU are probably the weakest 2/3 seeds.

Win 3 games and we will have the easiest Elite 8 game.

If you really think Utah, Texas A&M, and Miami are better than WV, we'll just have to disagree.

Do you think it's coincidence that dook winds up in an easy regional every year or that we wind up in KU's region most years? Or that the NCAA investigation is still ongoing after almost five years? Do you really think they want a team they're been giving an anal exam for five years to win the NCAAT? I DON'T THINK SO. I suppose it's mere coincidence that our region wound up like this:


"How would you like to do the math?

KenPom style? The top five seeds in the East Region have an average rank of nine in the Ken Pomeroy system. The South and West are an average 12, and the Midwest is a 16.

Old-world AP style? Four of the top five seeds in the East are in the Associated Press top 10, with an average rank of nine. The Midwest has two top-10 teams and average rank of 10, the South an average of 11 and the West a 14.

How about league championships? There are 12 total championships available in the six top leagues: ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC. The East won 4½ of those, the South got three, the West 2½ and the Midwest just Kansas’ double in the Big 12."

Nuff said. This should lay to rest any discussion about which region is the toughest. You can call that coincidence if you want.