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Let's get George Soros to coach. (will need some good assistants but old George will pony up a few billion for the guys on the gridiron.
Not likely. That guy loves only 3 things: political power (behind the scenes), money, and wars, which he sees as sponsoring for profit and additional political power.
 
Not sure that I need to explain it but kids are being paid like professional athletes now duh but I’m sure you knew that.
Most schools are unable or unwilling to pay the type of NIL money necessary to be national contenders in basketball or football. UNC could fall into either of those categories but I imagine it is the former. We’ve put the cart in front of the horse in college sports and most of you don’t seem to care. You’re just mad that our wealthy alumni won’t cough up enough money for hired guns to make us competitive. It seems ludicrous to be mad at someone for not spending their money as you wish they would.
 
Most schools are unable or unwilling to pay the type of NIL money necessary to be national contenders in basketball or football. UNC could fall into either of those categories but I imagine it is the former. We’ve put the cart in front of the horse in college sports and most of you don’t seem to care. You’re just mad that our wealthy alumni won’t cough up enough money for hired guns to make us competitive. It seems ludicrous to be mad at someone for not spending their money as you wish they would.
I agree the cart and horse comment but mad I can’t say that I just hate seeing our BB struggle recruiting while others just dish out the money and buy their teams. The money bags can do what they want but no need to whine when we are average at best in both FB and Bb. Me i personally hate the way college sports have become but no going back now. So keep paying them and giving them a free education along with the added benefits we don’t know about.
 
As a fan since 1960, it pains me greatly to see our struggles with recruiting. These young men are paid guns with very little concern about tradition or school loyalty. We’ve raised these kids to think that money is everything. So it shouldn’t be surprising to see things play out as they have. The National Committee for Asinine Arbitration unleashed NIL and the transfer rule with little to no restrictions nor thought of possible repercussions. Typical of them. Our donors have to decide if they want to fund play for pay at levels high enough to be competitive in recruiting or basically drop down a level in sports and lose most of the non revenue sports. I’m okay with the latter if that’s the donors’ choice. I realize that opinion isn’t popular here.
 
Let's get George Soros to coach. (will need some good assistants but old George will pony up a few billion for the guys on the gridiron.
Am I missing something here? Other than him also being rich, how is Soros similar to my reference to Arthur Smith? At least Smith is an alum, was a grad assistant here, is (and was) an NFL coordinator, and was an NFL head coach…
 
Read somewhere about Chadwell too.

Just thinking who would you prefer chadwell, Sumrall or Schumann?
 
Read somewhere about Chadwell too.

Just thinking who would you prefer chadwell, Sumrall or Schumann?
Chadwell for me would be third of that trio. He does know the Carolinas and VA inside out. He also has recruited a good deal in FL, GA, AL, and TN, and he has won everywhere he's been. But the other 2 have more upside.

I also have seen his name as being high on the UCF list. A former neighbor of mine who has been a Memphis season ticket holder for about 30 years told me recently that the AD there has Chadwell on his short list to start talking to should Ryan Silverfeild take another job.
 
Am I missing something here? Other than him also being rich, how is Soros similar to my reference to Arthur Smith? At least Smith is an alum, was a grad assistant here, is (and was) an NFL coordinator, and was an NFL head coach…
I was merely looking at his pocketbook thinking if you get all 5 star recruits it would be hard to screw up.
 
Chadwell for me would be third of that trio. He does know the Carolinas and VA inside out. He also has recruited a good deal in FL, GA, AL, and TN, and he has won everywhere he's been. But the other 2 have more upside.

I also have seen his name as being high on the UCF list. A former neighbor of mine who has been a Memphis season ticket holder for about 30 years told me recently that the AD there has Chadwell on his short list to start talking to should Ryan Silverfeild take another job.
heard a story today that scal and ucf are trying to do a trade like scenario where they(ucf) would help with the riley buyout to get him to ucf…lol wtf.
 
why would we even waste our time on Belicheck. once Brady left he didn’t win anything of note and it all unraveled about how much players frankly didn’t really like playing for him. other than that, he would connect great with high school kids and guys in the portal (sarcasm). starting to wonder how Bubba can stick around if he makes another bad hire like he did with Hubert on the bball said that has set us back. can’t afford to do it again with football given all the movement coming in the landcape soon.
 
why would we even waste our time on Belicheck. once Brady left he didn’t win anything of note and it all unraveled about how much players frankly didn’t really like playing for him. other than that, he would connect great with high school kids and guys in the portal (sarcasm). starting to wonder how Bubba can stick around if he makes another bad hire like he did with Hubert on the bball said that has set us back. can’t afford to do it again with football given all the movement coming in the landcape soon.
Yeah I agree we need a long term solution not a guy that's going to draw a few big recruits and draw a little money and fan suppose for a couple seasons.

Although I do think that for UNC bringing in a new up and coming coach is only a short term solution for us because they will build something on the verge of exploding and then leave when the first big name calls and dangles a check in front of them.

What we need is a coach that is established and in the middle of his career, he has already tasted the big time schools and has plenty of money that he won't be moved by a dangling check. The guy that wants a place to finish out his last 10 to 12 years of coaching and wants to prove he can't take a program from the middle of the road to the top, and sees Carolina Football as a sleeping giant and a challenge to finish of his legacy.

Now I have no idea who this mystery coach is but, I'm sure he is out there!
 
why would we even waste our time on Belicheck. once Brady left he didn’t win anything of note and it all unraveled about how much players frankly didn’t really like playing for him. other than that, he would connect great with high school kids and guys in the portal (sarcasm). starting to wonder how Bubba can stick around if he makes another bad hire like he did with Hubert on the bball said that has set us back. can’t afford to do it again with football given all the movement coming in the landcape soon.
Just Bubba stirring up some media buzz while they await the decision from the Tulane coach, no harm nor foul. All the big national media guys shared it and millions have seen it and are commenting on it. Bubba is savvy with this stuff.
 
Just Bubba stirring up some media buzz while they await the decision from the Tulane coach, no harm nor foul. All the big national media guys shared it and millions have seen it and are commenting on it. Bubba is savvy with this stuff.
That is my hope, but I have seen enough raw stupidity over the years to always fear something more stupid than the last stupid.
 
heard a story today that scal and ucf are trying to do a trade like scenario where they(ucf) would help with the riley buyout to get him to ucf…lol wtf.
The part of that kind of talk about moving Lincoln Riley down is that OU fans say he is a soft HC that they wanted to leave, and many SC fans now say the same. Those SC fans doubt that Riley can ever be a BT champ coach.

It would be interesting if that is indeed actually in play. But UCF should balk at paying more than a pittance. If SC wants to get rid of Riley, they should fire him. They have BT HUGE TV money. They can afford swallowing the loss. Just ask TAMU with its own huge SEC TV money.
 
I don’t understand the negativity about belichick and dismissing it entirely. When I first heard it I thought it was a joke as in “yea you wish”. He’s the greatest mind in football arguably all time. It’s next level thinking. No one comes close. College or pro. The staff he would bring would be a who’s who of talent. Now would he “connect” with todays high school athlete/recruit? Maybe not. Does he have to? Wouldn’t his staff be the ones to do that? When a recruiter flashing half a dozen Super Bowl rings comes calling do you listen to him with more excitement than the Tulane assistant defense coordinator? If he’s available I don’t see how you pass on him for any of the people I’ve seen mentioned in the thread.
 
Yeah I agree we need a long term solution not a guy that's going to draw a few big recruits and draw a little money and fan suppose for a couple seasons.

Although I do think that for UNC bringing in a new up and coming coach is only a short term solution for us because they will build something on the verge of exploding and then leave when the first big name calls and dangles a check in front of them.

What we need is a coach that is established and in the middle of his career, he has already tasted the big time schools and has plenty of money that he won't be moved by a dangling check. The guy that wants a place to finish out his last 10 to 12 years of coaching and wants to prove he can't take a program from the middle of the road to the top, and sees Carolina Football as a sleeping giant and a challenge to finish of his legacy.

Now I have no idea who this mystery coach is but, I'm sure he is out there!
That could describe Campbell, as he now has many years as HC at another P4 school - though clearly not one of the 'big time [football] schools.'. He knows he has hit the highest any coach ever has at ISU, so if he wants to achieve more he must leave. UNC is indeed great potential, its ceiling much higher than ISU's, that has gone unrealized for a very long time. The right HC will win the ACC, which means be in the playoffs.
 
I don’t understand the negativity about belichick and dismissing it entirely. When I first heard it I thought it was a joke as in “yea you wish”. He’s the greatest mind in football arguably all time. It’s next level thinking. No one comes close. College or pro. The staff he would bring would be a who’s who of talent. Now would he “connect” with todays high school athlete/recruit? Maybe not. Does he have to? Wouldn’t his staff be the ones to do that? When a recruiter flashing half a dozen Super Bowl rings comes calling do you listen to him with more excitement than the Tulane assistant defense coordinator? If he’s available I don’t see how you pass on him for any of the people I’ve seen mentioned in the thread.
First, you cannot ever even halfway equate hot an NFL coach does with what a CFB coach does. In the NFL, the Owner and his GM run the whole show. They not only pick the HC, they also approve all assistants to the HC. They make the draft choices and trade choices. At times they declare who will start.

So it is always possible that even the biggest winning NFL coach achieved that largely because his Owner and GM made certain he had everything possible to win most. At the other side of the system and pertinent to this UNC job search, I have seen a couple Falcons fans make strong cases that the franchise handicapped Arthur Smith all 3 years with bad decisions they forced on him.

I do know that most people think the Patriots front office made great decisions throughout the unparalleled run. And there is the fact there comes to point for every coach at which he has gone over the hill. Then, absolutely nothing he achieved in his prime matters to the now because he never again can get back to that level. I think Belichick is well past his-time. It is never coming back.
 
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First, you cannot ever even halfway equate hot an NFL coach does with what a CFB coach does. In the NFL, the Owner and his GM run the whole show. They not only pick the HC, they also approve all assistants to the HC. They make the draft choices and trade choices. At times they declare who will start.

So it is always possible that even the biggest winning NFL coach achieved that largely because his Owner and GM made certain he had everything possible to win most. At the other side of the system and pertinent to this UNC job search, I have seen a couple Falcons fans make strong cases that the franchise handicapped Arthur Smith all 3 years with bad decisions they forced on him.

I do know that most people think the Patriots front office made great decisions throughout the unparalleled run. And there is the fact there comes to point for every coach at which he has gone over the hill. Then, absolutely nothing he achieved in his prime matters to the now because he never again can get back to that level. I think Belichick is well past his-time. It is never coming back.
Hard to argue with that but then I don’t have much confidence that we’ll make a good hire.
 
First, you cannot ever even halfway equate hot an NFL coach does with what a CFB coach does. In the NFL, the Owner and his GM run the whole show. They not only pick the HC, they also approve all assistants to the HC. They make the draft choices and trade choices. At times they declare who will start.

So it is always possible that even the biggest winning NFL coach achieved that largely because his Owner and GM made certain he had everything possible to win most. At the other side of the system and pertinent to this UNC job search, I have seen a couple Falcons fans make strong cases that the franchise handicapped Arthur Smith all 3 years with bad decisions they forced on him.

I do know that most people think the Patriots front office made great decisions throughout the unparalleled run. And there is the fact there comes to point for every coach at which he has gone over the hill. Then, absolutely nothing he achieved in his prime matters to the now because he never again can get back to that level. I think Belichick is well past his-time. It is never coming back.
I won’t dispute any of that. I will say the past two days the story has made the rounds on all the sports talk tv shows and their panels of nfl and college coaches and players aren’t as dismissive on the whole as your are.
 
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At the end of the day if Bill reached out and you are Bubba you take the call no matter what…The man is the greatest defensive mind of my life time in Football period…Also I have seen people talk about why fire Mack and bring in another 72 year old…The only thing Mack and Bill have in common is age because when we talk about coaching they are not even in the same universe…Fun fact Bill’s dad Stephen coached at UNC from 1953 to 1955…
 
The Belichick thing is NOT a publicity stunt. He's interested and there are follow up conversations happening. People are dismissing it but that's short-sighted.
Then Coach Belichick brings his son from Univ. Washington as DC and possibly coach in waiting.

The University of Washington Huskies' defense under defensive coordinator Steve Belichick has ranked highly in several categories:



Total defense: Ranked 9th in the country, allowing 266.3 yards per game
Passing defense: Ranked 5th in the country, allowing 160.5 yards per game
Scoring defense: Ranked 11th in the nation, allowing 10.3 points per game
Team passing efficiency defense: Ranked 1st in FBS
Yards per play allowed: Ranked 6th in FBS
Opponent plays of 10-plus yards: Tied for 10th-fewest in FBS
Opponent plays of 20-, 30-, and 40-plus yards: Ranked in the top 25
Big Ten leader in slowing opposing passing attacks: Led the Big Ten in slowing opposing passing attacks
Points allowed per game: Ranked 21st nationally
 
Unless he can bring Tom Brady with him for a few years I want no part of Bill.
not trying make any particular point here, but if he would have come a few years ago, he would have had two consecutive Tom Bradys to work with.

I just want someone who will develop talent and not squander it. Better to recruit lesser talent and turn it into greater talent, than to recruit great talent and waste it by not developing it.


eta...I can't help but be intrigued by Belichick's interest. That being said, I can't help but be leery of the motivation of a retirement-age coach wanting to come to UNC. I wonder if we've developed a rep for being a good place to come and ease off the pedal a little without causing riots to break out. Maybe we're like a decent retirement plan.
 
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not trying make any particular point here, but if he would have come a few years ago, he would have had two consecutive Tom Bradys to work with.

I just want someone who will develop talent and not squander it. Better to recruit lesser talent and turn it into greater talent, than to recruit great talent and waste it by not developing it.


eta...I can't help but be intrigued by Belichick's interest. That being said, I can't help but be leery of the motivation of a retirement-age coach wanting to come to UNC. I wonder if we've developed a rep for being a good place to come and ease off the pedal a little without causing riots to break out. Maybe we're like a decent retirement plan.
Good early bird specials maybe
 
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not trying make any particular point here, but if he would have come a few years ago, he would have had two consecutive Tom Bradys to work with.

I just want someone who will develop talent and not squander it. Better to recruit lesser talent and turn it into greater talent, than to recruit great talent and waste it by not developing it.


eta...I can't help but be intrigued by Belichick's interest. That being said, I can't help but be leery of the motivation of a retirement-age coach wanting to come to UNC. I wonder if we've developed a rep for being a good place to come and ease off the pedal a little without causing riots to break out. Maybe we're like a decent retirement plan.
Why? He is another old man just desperate to get another shot, and he knows no NFL owner wants him. So he sees the damned fools who hired over the hill Mack and thinks that's perfect for him. And he also wants to get his son brought on as HC in Waiting.

Finebaum is having great fun with this, knowing that not even Vandy or Miss St would be so stupid. Remember, he has 0 CFB exprience, and the NFL is far different. The Owner and GM make all important decisions. How is a 72 year old with CFB experience going to learn all that before time runs out on him?

This, if on the surface, is just retarded. Hopefully it is a big smokescreen to divert attention away from whichever of Sumrall, Schumann, or Campbell we are about to sign on Sunday.
 
Why? He is another old man just desperate to get another shot, and he knows no NFL owner wants him. So he sees the damned fools who hired over the hill Mack and thinks that's perfect for him. And he also wants to get his son brought on as HC in Waiting.
Finebaum is having great fun with this, knowing that not even Vandy or Miss St would be so stupid. Remember, he has 0 CFB exprience, and the NFL is far different. The Owner and GM make all important decisions. How is a 72 year old with CFB experience going to learn all that before time runs out on him?

This, if on the surface, is just retarded. Hopefully it is a big smokescreen to divert attention away from whichever of Sumrall, Schumann, or Campbell we are about to sign on Sunday.
well here’s finebaum and Nick Saban both saying belichick would be great. Finebaum says it would be a “homerun” and how similar cfb is to the nfl now.

 
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