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NIL insanity

Let’s just make attending classes optional. These young men are hired guns now so let’s drop any pretense of the student athlete in any normal context. We can no longer legitimately point the finger at UK/AZ/dook… for paying players. We jumped on the bandwagon as soon as it became legal. So no high road for UNC fans any longer. We’re right down in the mud with all the dirtiest programs.
 
Let’s just make attending classes optional. These young men are hired guns now so let’s drop any pretense of the student athlete in any normal context. We can no longer legitimately point the finger at UK/AZ/dook… for paying players. We jumped on the bandwagon as soon as it became legal. So no high road for UNC fans any longer. We’re right down in the mud with all the dirtiest programs.
That’s a bit harsh but I know where you are coming from. I hate it with a passion, but if it’s legal there’s no problem with it. It’s change and it’s definitely gonna be an adjustment. But we don’t have to like it!
 
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Wonder how the kids riding pine feel. Kid to the right cashing a hundred g check, and they are still struggling with meal cards. Or other collegiate sports. They poured this in the floor and said you guys fight over it. Rewards and scraps for everyone
 
Wonder how the kids riding pine feel. Kid to the right cashing a hundred g check, and they are still struggling with meal cards. Or other collegiate sports. They poured this in the floor and said you guys fight over it. Rewards and scraps for everyone
While there will be kids cashing in big time, I would imagine no one will struggle. That can be dealt with.
 
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That’s a bit harsh but I know where you are coming from. I hate it with a passion, but if it’s legal there’s no problem with it. It’s change and it’s definitely gonna be an adjustment. But we don’t have to like it!
I could name several things that are now legal with which I have a problem. Some change is good, some isn’t.
 
Let’s just make attending classes optional. These young men are hired guns now so let’s drop any pretense of the student athlete in any normal context. We can no longer legitimately point the finger at UK/AZ/dook… for paying players. We jumped on the bandwagon as soon as it became legal. So no high road for UNC fans any longer. We’re right down in the mud with all the dirtiest programs.
Understand your frustration Arch, but I think classes and graduations will ultimately be the defining point in this quagmire…

I like seeing The photos of Leaky receiving his degree, and hearing reports that Mando is a terrific student. They’re both going to make a chunk of change this year, but are still student athletes.

That I believe is where the NCAA should be concentrating it’s efforts…. And ultimately they should have the balls to enforce the student side. The money is already Wild West, but kids won’t get that money if they are ruled ineligible to play because they didn’t go to class.

I’m just saying the idea of ‘amatuer’ athletics should have died long ago… the idea of student athletics is what should be preserved… with or without the money.
 
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It made me itch, but I had to "like" a post from SDung! As my sainted Grandpop used to say, "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while!"

This is well overdue and will ultimately be very good for college ball! It is having growing pains like every pivotal change. Remember peeps said the 3 point shot and the shot clock would ruin college ball too! The Family is already reaping some major benefits directly because of NIL so I can't in good conscience take such joy in Redemption 2.0 AND bemoan NIL!
 
All Pro leagues have teams made up of those making 30 million a year and those making 200,000K. They seem to be able to field cohesive teams that function well! Every large company has peeps in the penthouse making millions and those in the mailroom making minimum wage. Sports is the best example of a Meritocracy and a reflection on the rest of the capitalist world.
 
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All Pro leagues have teams made up of those making 30 million a year and those making 200,000K. They seem to be able to field cohesive teams that function well! Every large company has peeps in the penthouse making millions and those in the mailroom making minimum wage. Sports is the best example of a Meritocracy and a reflection on the rest of the capitalist world.
America is increasingly anti- meritocracy, it’s a bad word today.
 
Mostly because people don't really know what it means! The other issue is people use it when they really mean, Elite Democracy, meaning the rest of us only get to "vote" for those who are already members of the elite class!

People don't really have a problem with rewarding those who earn their place by showing the skills to be successful! We just get spoon fed our notions by those who wish to manipulate!

Democratic Meritocracy is the best governmental system created by humans, but they seldom really exist!
 
Mostly because people don't really know what it means! The other issue is people use it when they really mean, Elite Democracy, meaning the rest of us only get to "vote" for those who are already members of the elite class!

People don't really have a problem with rewarding those who earn their place by showing the skills to be successful! We just get spoon fed our notions by those who wish to manipulate!

Democratic Meritocracy is the best governmental system created by humans, but they seldom really exist!
Topic for OOTB because it is political in nature.
 
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Well I will be making it official. I’m going to give up my high paying cushy job and will be a walk on for the UNC basketball team next season. (Step aside Granger) No scholarship necessary as I will be collecting the NIL $ and that is more than enough compensation for me. (I was able to negotiate a big deal as long as I didn’t complain of lack of minutes). I’ll be signing various memorabilia for cash (no Bitcoin please) outside the Dean Done next Monday to Friday noon to 1pm. (ESPN to cover my official announcement at 5pm as their lead story). On another note does anyone know a reputable yacht salesman that I could contact? I figure I can retire after this season and I think I’ll have some excess cash on hand.
 
NIL simply keeps the NCAA from having to enforce their own rules. I feel all the FBI investigations, all the allegations of backdoor sneaker money, and shady coaches will go away. Yes, players are getting paid, and some at ridiculous amounts. But it comes at a cost. The purity of the student athletes is gone. Everyone can hire mercenaries now, who can afford them.

If the NCAA struggled the "investigate" offending schools before, how could they possibly do that now? Their hammer of punishment is as hard as a Tonka Tool kit hammer, unless you are UNC.
I would contend that the 'purity of the student-athlete' is a mental construct that was purposely hammered into our heads from the get-go so as to make us think that athletes recruited to play a major sport were actually students. The reason that the NCAA became involved in recruiting way back when was because just about as soon as intercollegiate play began, schools started recruiting ringers and dressing them up as students. The NCAA stepped in just to put some limits on that practice and keep some programs from loading up while others were stulted. No one stops to think that just because the NCAA sets rules and regulations for recruiting, it doesn't mean that basically schools aren't still recruiting athletic ringers and still dressing them up as students. They're just supposedly doing it in a more even-handed way under the NCAA's oversight.

But the NCAA will go to its demise contending that there actually is such a thing as a student-athlete with true amateur status, because once that amateurism is debunked, it's game over. As I have pointed out many times before, over the course of time, the NCAA has paid more and more attention to rule-breaking that tends to belie the amateurism of college sports, and less and less on the violations that give one program an advantage over another.

This NIL stuff might head off the inevitable for awhile, but I think Pandora's box has been opened and the end is nigh.
 
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Wonder how the kids riding pine feel. Kid to the right cashing a hundred g check, and they are still struggling with meal cards. Or other collegiate sports. They poured this in the floor and said you guys fight over it. Rewards and scraps for everyone
No d1 athlete is struggling. If they play basketball or football. That's a myth.
 
No d1 athlete is struggling. If they play basketball or football. That's a myth.
This goes way beyond the 2 biggies sports. And lower tier schools are still in the stone ages with NIL availability. 187000 total D1 athletes.
Some are struggling
 
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This goes way beyond the 2 biggies sports. And lower tier schools are still in the stone ages with NIL availability. 187000 total D1 athletes.
Some are struggling
Sure beyond those 2 I agree but even at lower tier schools...not in those 2 sports.
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I have no problem with Mando making money off his NIL…. From every report he’s also an excellent student. I’d go so far as to say he’s the poster child for what’s right about NIL.
Absolutely. People focus too much on these really big deals for some of the high profile players. That's just a very small minority of players.
 
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