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What Would Jesus Do?

What Would Jesus Do?

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I just noticed that Kentucky hasn't signed anyone yet.

Obviously that will change. But I wonder if their fan base is getting nervous? I know I would be pulling out what's left of my hair if we were in that situation.

Which points up one of the bad things about the OAD mind set. Just one bad recruiting year can be a real disaster.

While UK is considered in the lead for 6 guys and in the running for a couple more, they are only shown as a lock for 1 guy (Richards). What if, by some fluke, most of the other guys pick someone else?

Would the fan base melt down? Would Cal go to extraordinary measures to hold on to this year's OADs?
 
I doubt they're nervous, they deal with this every year and Cal always pulls in a good class. If anything they're probably overconfident based on Cal's track record.

But they do meltdown every time they miss on a recruit so yeah when they have multiple misses Rupp Rafters goes full dumpster fire.
 
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I seriously doubt they are nervous at all. First, nobody has signed anyone yet. That can't happen until November. Second, UK racks up in the spring because top guys need to see who they have leaving and who might stay. Third, they are running 1 or 2 for several 5* kids right now and one of those kids happens to be someone Carolina really wants.
 
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What Would Jesus Do? said:
I just noticed that Kentucky hasn't signed anyone yet.

Obviously that will change. But I wonder if their fan base is getting nervous? I know I would be pulling out what's left of my hair if we were in that situation.

Which points up one of the bad things about the OAD mind set. Just one bad recruiting year can be a real disaster.

While UK is considered in the lead for 6 guys and in the running for a couple more, they are only shown as a lock for 1 guy (Richards). What if, by some fluke, most of the other guys pick someone else?

Would the fan base melt down? Would Cal go to extraordinary measures to hold on to this year's OADs?
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House of cards. Cal's bluster is his calling card, and sometimes it's gonna miss. Oh, they'll get there share of targets (and unfortunately use whatever means necessary to do so), but I said it before, he stands a a chance of whiffing on his targeted Bigs. He wanted Ayton bad, and anyone who says otherwise --- here or elsewhere --- is flat FOS (Miller's fixer just beat him to the punch). Carter has had no interest there for months, and McCoy is likely staying out west. It's Bamba or bust, and PJ is right there in that same priority now. Cal tells everyone who'll listen and his propaganda machine that he has them in the bag to keep the perception if momentum fresh. It might work (often does) --- it might not.

By all rights Mo Bamba should go elsewhere, but I've heard a few rumblings lately about handlers in his camp (which would be disappointing for such a bright kid), but they could be just rumblings, so I guess we'll see...
 
Can't imagine their worried. Still a lot of unsigned talent in the top 20 and they (along with Dook) have their hands on at least half of them combined.

From a quick glance, I'd say Nick Richards is a lock to UK and will be their first commit. Also with Tre Young and either John Petty or Hamidou Diallo. If the reports are true, Washington may be on board as well. Though I'd rather see them get Bamba, as that gives us a much better shot with PJ, unless he primarily wants to play SF at UK.

A lot of these have to do with who jumps first IMO.

Speaking of McCoy, he, along with Ira Lee, are projected as favorites to Arizona. One would have to believe that helps us with Vanderbilt and potentially PJ, if they land one or both.
 
gary-7 said:
House of cards. Cal's bluster is his calling card, and sometimes it's gonna miss. Oh, they'll get there share of targets (and unfortunately use whatever means necessary to do so), but I said it before, he stands a a chance of whiffing on his targeted Bigs. He wanted Ayton bad, and anyone who says otherwise --- here or elsewhere --- is flat FOS (Miller's fixer just beat him to the punch). Carter has had no interest there for months, and McCoy is likely staying out west. It's Bamba or bust, and PJ is right there in that same priority now. Cal tells everyone who'll listen and his propaganda machine that he has them in the bag to keep the perception if momentum fresh. It might work (often does) --- it might not.

By all rights Mo Bamba should go elsewhere, but I've heard a few rumblings lately about handlers in his camp (which would be disappointing for such a bright kid), but they could be just rumblings, so I guess we'll see...
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Gary, my educated OPINION is that rumbling you are hearing is not the burritos you eat last night, I will take the over on the Bamba 60% to Ky line, just sayin, been sayin actually. Richards to Ky, is just a matter of time IMO and don't be shocked if Kal gets heated up with Preston and Vanderbilt may still in play for them but Vanderbilt could be getting very tired of them (Kal) pulling his strings. That can very well blow up and put the kid in the state of mind of wanting pay back from Ky and he may already be at that point, I mean, he was at our late night.

There is a LOT of uncertainty right now as to who, how many, potentially none, of those Ky 3 prized freshman front court guys that are freshmen now, who if any becomes one & done and who if any don't? Most assume Bam will be and he is projected high right now but he may have to show some scoring before he is a lock to leave. Point is, lot of clutter in that Ky front court for now, clutter that could be cleared up for a kid that elects to be a spring commit, PJ so far is not looking to be a spring commit but more looking to commit Nov or dec...

Unless PJ announces that he wants to wait and become a spring commit, which I feel certain Bamba will do, then you folks know full well what I think happens with PJ.
 
DSouthr said:
Gary, my educated OPINION is that rumbling you are hearing is not the burritos you eat last night, I will take the over on the Bamba 60% to Ky line, just sayin, been sayin actually. Richards to Ky, is just a matter of time IMO and don't be shocked if Kal gets heated up with Preston and Vanderbilt may still in play for them but Vanderbilt could be getting very tired of them (Kal) pulling his strings. That can very well blow up and put the kid in the state of mind of wanting pay back from Ky and he may already be at that point, I mean, he was at our late night.

There is a LOT of uncertainty right now as to who, how many, potentially none, of those Ky 3 prized freshman front court guys that are freshmen now, who if any becomes one & done and who if any don't? Most assume Bam will be and he is projected high right now but he may have to show some scoring before he is a lock to leave. Point is, lot of clutter in that Ky front court for now, clutter that could be cleared up for a kid that elects to be a spring commit, PJ so far is not looking to be a spring commit but more looking to commit Nov or dec...

Unless PJ announces that he wants to wait and become a spring commit, which I feel certain Bamba will do, then you folks know full well what I think happens with PJ.
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Well, Bam is OAD or at least has been one in his head for a couple of years. I'd be surprised if he attends a spring semester class after drop/add unless he has some setbacks in his game. Not sure about the rest of their frontcourt guys, but Fox and Monk have been assumed by many to be of the OAD mentality as well.

As for PJ, his dad just confirmed in an interview what I was posting a couple of months ago about TX, i.e. that Shaka was effectively recruiting his way out of the PJ sweepstakes at that position. That was the one factor I thought could chill the relationship between Shaka and PJ and take them out of it. As for Shaka's perspective, I would guess, being in his position and knowing whom he was up against, he had to have birds in the hand and couldn't risk going all-in on PJ.

I'll tell ya Dave, the more stuff I see from interviews the more I'm thinking Paul Sr may be the one more impressed with the "business decision" (uk/AZ) aspect of this than PJ himself is. My favorite recent quote from PJ was "I feel like I can get to the NBA from anywhere".....
 
It's more than rumblings up here about Bamba to UK. It's where people who know his inner circle believe he is going to go.
 
dadika13 said:
It's more than rumblings up here about Bamba to UK. It's where people who know his inner circle believe he is going to go.
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I agree, thou I do think Michigan is a factor but I have never bought in to the duke hype. Especially if handlers have now got involved as I suspect they have, he will be steered to Ky. One surprise to me was that he didn't go to the Ky late night, may have wanted to keep his options open and see how things look in the spring as to Ky front court guys staying or not.
 
dadika13 said:
It's more than rumblings up here about Bamba to UK. It's where people who know his inner circle believe he is going to go.
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Still loud up there about that, huh? Damn. Too bad if so.
Well, hope he enjoys those "fifth year of HS" academics.

I'm still hoping for Meechigan, but oh well...
 
DSouthr said:
I agree, thou I do think Michigan is a factor but I have never bought in to the duke hype. Especially if handlers have now got involved as I suspect they have, he will be steered to Ky. One surprise to me was that he didn't go to the Ky late night, may have wanted to keep his options open and see how things look in the spring as to Ky front court guys staying or not.
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Pretty sure bamba was at bbm.
 
Im fairly certain to answer the OPs question that theres not much concern if at all. Theyll get 3 or 4 of these top 25 kids regardless.
 
What Would Jesus Do? said:
I just noticed that Kentucky hasn't signed anyone yet.

Obviously that will change. But I wonder if their fan base is getting nervous? I know I would be pulling out what's left of my hair if we were in that situation.

Which points up one of the bad things about the OAD mind set. Just one bad recruiting year can be a real disaster.

While UK is considered in the lead for 6 guys and in the running for a couple more, they are only shown as a lock for 1 guy (Richards). What if, by some fluke, most of the other guys pick someone else?

Would the fan base melt down? Would Cal go to extraordinary measures to hold on to this year's OADs?
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Well Duke has just one and Kansas also just one. Not worried about Uk having no commits yet. I think Uk ends up with 6.
 
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Bamba, green, Washington, young, knox were all there. Impressive list. Thats why im shocked vanderbilt came to LNWR over BBM. I think we have a legit shot with him
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I think we do have a shot with him, but overcoming TCU hiring his cousin(I think, but some type of relative either way) will be very difficult and eventually why I see him going to TCU.
 
Yeah anyone who thinks Kentucky isn't getting at least 4-5 studs again is out of their tree.

They're in it for Knox, Bamba, Green (though he's a heavy Syracuse lean), Richards, PJ, Petty, Young, and Tremont Waters. They'll be fine.
 
Jmo but who goes to whose late night show is not an indication of a final decision.These kids are just taking advantage of a free trip and chance to be wined and dined.Cannot say that I blame them
 
topps coach said:
Jmo but who goes to whose late night show is not an indication of a final decision.These kids are just taking advantage of a free trip and chance to be wined and dined.Cannot say that I blame them
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Yea but some were on an unofficial visit. Doesn't that mean they had to pay their own way?
 
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Pretty sure bamba was at bbm.
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I had tried to find out if Bamba was going to their Late Night but I didn't look after, but if he was there then yeah, IMO that only cements what I was saying.

Guys, not that I want to enjoy bamba to Ky but bamba to Ky has 2 very good effects for UNC. First bamba to Ky would insure no Bamba to duke, I take that trade off in a skinny minute. Second, Bamba to Ky along with Richards IMO takes Ky out for PJ, Ky will return at least 1 if not more of their prized front court frosh from this season's team. That not only waters down PJ PT at Ky, it as well means there is not clear starting spot for him, we would have a very clear spot for him to start.

My concern, it appears VERY likely that PJ is looking to commit to which ever school he does before Bamba commits, thinking Bamba is a spring commit. If it were me, not sure I would have wanted bamba, Richards, and PJ at my late night if I were kal, think I would have preferred bamba not be there if I wanted to snag both PJ and bamba. Meaning PJ commit first thinking Bamba not to Ky and then in the spring after PJ is committed Bamba comes as well. Bamba is not worried about starting for Ky, he starts before anyone else does, I think he starts beside Richards and PJ is dealt to the bench to fight with returning big men for PT off the bench. So it is key that PJ has a strong feel for where bamba is leaning, could this be why Roy flies to Vegas to see PJ face to face?
 
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David if Bamba indeed waits to the spring to commit we will be right in there for him.Our chances will depend on whether or not we get Carter and if Bolden is an OAD.Bolden is the key part here.
 
topps coach said:
David if Bamba indeed waits to the spring to commit we will be right in there for him.Our chances will depend on whether or not we get Carter and if Bolden is an OAD.Bolden is the key part here.
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Right now...and since he's spring a lot can change...but right now there is very little buzz on Bamba to Duke up here (I live in NYC and talk to some of his former coaches whenever I'm around the gyms watching games). Almost everyone thinks it's UK's to lose right now, he's got a handler calling some of the shots. Bamba loves Harvard and is high on Michigan, but there are some people in his ear for UK.
 
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DSouthr said:
I had tried to find out if Bamba was going to their Late Night but I didn't look after, but if he was there then yeah, IMO that only cements what I was saying.

Guys, not that I want to enjoy bamba to Ky but bamba to Ky has 2 very good effects for UNC. First bamba to Ky would insure no Bamba to duke, I take that trade off in a skinny minute. Second, Bamba to Ky along with Richards IMO takes Ky out for PJ, Ky will return at least 1 if not more of their prized front court frosh from this season's team. That not only waters down PJ PT at Ky, it as well means there is not clear starting spot for him, we would have a very clear spot for him to start.

My concern, it appears VERY likely that PJ is looking to commit to which ever school he does before Bamba commits, thinking Bamba is a spring commit. If it were me, not sure I would have wanted bamba, Richards, and PJ at my late night if I were kal, think I would have preferred bamba not be there if I wanted to snag both PJ and bamba. Meaning PJ commit first thinking Bamba not to Ky and then in the spring after PJ is committed Bamba comes as well. Bamba is not worried about starting for Ky, he starts before anyone else does, I think he starts beside Richards and PJ is dealt to the bench to fight with returning big men for PT off the bench. So it is key that PJ has a strong feel for where bamba is leaning, could this be why Roy flies to Vegas to see PJ face to face?
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Yeah, I think 1 guy signed PJ won't mind (or in Ayton's case at AZ, it's actually a positive for their PJ recruitment)...2 guys, different story. That's when you can seriously start to worry about PT.

Timing is not in our favor though with Bamba as you mentioned. He's a spring guy from everything I've heard.
 
Kentucky will sign their normal 4-5 players before next season. WWW is involved and he will deliver.
 
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Well if u scroll the top recruiting classes the last ten years ky dominates. They could not sign anyone for several years and still be one of the most talented teams
 
dadika13 said:
Right now...and since he's spring a lot can change...but right now there is very little buzz on Bamba to Duke up here (I live in NYC and talk to some of his former coaches whenever I'm around the gyms watching games). Almost everyone thinks it's UK's to lose right now, he's got a handler calling some of the shots. Bamba loves Harvard and is high on Michigan, but there are some people in his ear for UK.
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Ken, dadika & I may not see eye to eye often but he is in Bamba's back yard, ya may want to give him a bit more cred on this one. Not the first time I have heard that a handler has got involved with Bamba, now let's see, top flight big men that have handlers, where do they usually go again? LOL
 
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Ken, dadika & I may not see eye to eye often but he is in Bamba's back yard, ya may want to give him a bit more cred on this one. Not the first time I have heard that a handler has got involved with Bamba, now let's see, top flight big men that have handlers, where do they usually go again? LOL
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Not discounting what Dadika says but imo we will be a factor in the Bamba recruitment if Bolden is a OAD
 
topps coach said:
Not discounting what Dadika says but imo we will be a factor in the Bamba recruitment if Bolden is a OAD
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Very possible. Just shedding some info on what is being talked about right now. Again, since he's spring, so much will change in the next 3-4 months and Bolden going pro will definitely have an impact on his decision.
 
Kentucky will have the number one recruiting class before it's over. Like every year but they only have one national championship in the last 19 years and we will kick there butt in December when we play them and keep owning them on the court.
 
I think it's interesting to think about overseas. As more and more kids do it and then become successful in the league, UK and Duke could start to see their own OAD's never even show up on campus.
 
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I think it's interesting to think about overseas. As more and more kids do it and then become successful in the league, UK and Duke could start to see their own OAD's never even show up on campus.
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Jmo but if the talks on the NBA collective bargaining changes to some form of the baseball rule the recruiting landscape could certainly change.I could see many more HS players going the overseas route
 
topps coach said:
Jmo but if the talks on the NBA collective bargaining changes to some form of the baseball rule the recruiting landscape could certainly change.I could see many more HS players going the overseas route
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I wish they would cause some of them have no more interest in college than my dachshund asleep over there on the floor.
 
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Jmo but if the talks on the NBA collective bargaining changes to some form of the baseball rule the recruiting landscape could certainly change.I could see many more HS players going the overseas route
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It might weed out the ones who want to go to college rather than the ones who simply want to make the jump to the NBA.

The rule should be like it is in baseball. You can go from high school, but if you go to college you have to stay for three years.
 
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dadika13 said:
I think it's interesting to think about overseas. As more and more kids do it and then become successful in the league, UK and Duke could start to see their own OAD's never even show up on campus.
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...and wouldn't that be a kick in the head?
 
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