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So what’s your end goal here? Surgery? Hormones? Are you attracted to both sexes? im generally curious.

We just had (and lost) our first non-binary employee. They were an absolute mess emotionally and professionally. I’m not attributing/correlating that to their gender identity. For a lot of people, there’s been a huge tidal wave of terminology and gender related issues that have overwhelmed even traditionally very left leaning folks.

This is something I’d feel a bit more comfortable answering in more detail in a private DM. What I will say is that I’m on HRT and that changes the body dramatically. Hell, I don’t even look like a man anymore.

I’m sorry to hear about that person. I can’t speak for them but a lot of lgbt folk have endured quite a bit of trauma. Some people are just unable to handle the rigors of every day life.

I’m also in agreement a lot of the terminology surrounding gender is overly complicated, conceited, and generally unhelpful. It’s the militant left who basically turns an otherwise understandable, sympathetic issue into an attention seeking parody.
 
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Lol. I know of your existence right now because we’re having this discussion. As soon I cut the computer off, I’ll forget about your existence. I’ll obviously be reminded from time to time of the mental health crisis we’re in the middle of when I see stories about delusional trans people and how our society is perpetuating the illnesses. But you specifically? You’re a number to me. A statistic.

For me being just a number you seemed to be unusually pissed off and angry simply because I’m living as I say I am. Who’s being delusional? Lol
 
Amongst those? Are you talking about the news crews who seem to be the only ones there not taking sides and participating in the chaos? Surely you don't think Trump was talking about those on the left.

Here are some facts:

The Unite the Right rally was organized by white supremacists. Jason Kessler, a Proud Boys member, applied for and obtained the permit for the rally. Participants on the right included members of the alt-right, Neo-Confederates, Neo-fascists, white nationalists, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and far-right militias.

Many chanted racists and antisemitic slogans, and many carried weapons, Neo-Nazi symbols including the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, and Deus vult crosses. The organizers listed as their goal the unification of the American white nationalist movement.

On the left there were equally bad people and Trump was correct when he stated both sides should be blamed.

So when Trump talks about the fine people in attendance are you suggesting he is talking about the ones not participating? If you can you point out anyone who was simply standing on the sideline with no dog in the fight, be my guess. Here is a plethora of photographs to thumb through:

Or you can watch any of these videos:

Good luck!
As you can plainly see, it's difficult if not impossible to spot any "fine people" in the photographs and videos. To go before the media and try and sugarcoat this rally was a big miscue by Trump which is all I originally was saying.
"As you can plainly see, it's difficult if not impossible to spot any "fine people" in the photographs and videos."

"As you can plainly see, it's difficult if not impossible to spot any "fine people" in the photographs and videos I chose to include"
LMAO. What an idiot.
Amongst those? Are you talking about the news crews who seem to be the only ones there not taking sides and participating in the chaos? Surely you don't think Trump was talking about those on the left.

Here are some facts:

The Unite the Right rally was organized by white supremacists. Jason Kessler, a Proud Boys member, applied for and obtained the permit for the rally. Participants on the right included members of the alt-right, Neo-Confederates, Neo-fascists, white nationalists, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and far-right militias.

Many chanted racists and antisemitic slogans, and many carried weapons, Neo-Nazi symbols including the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, and Deus vult crosses. The organizers listed as their goal the unification of the American white nationalist movement.

On the left there were equally bad people and Trump was correct when he stated both sides should be blamed.

So when Trump talks about the fine people in attendance are you suggesting he is talking about the ones not participating? If you can you point out anyone who was simply standing on the sideline with no dog in the fight, be my guest. Here is a plethora of photographs to thumb through:

Or you can watch any of these videos:

Good luck!
As you can plainly see, it's difficult if not impossible to spot any "fine people" in the photographs and videos. To go before the media and try and sugarcoat this rally was a big miscue by Trump which is all I originally was saying.
"To go before the media and try and sugarcoat this rally was a big miscue by Trump which is all I originally was saying."

if that wqs a miscue, it was in underestimating how badly the media and its commie audience would distort and mischaracterize his words, or how hysterically the libtard sheep would hang on those distortions to vent their irrational hate.

But that's bullshit anyway and we all know it. You plainly said...

"- Following the white supremacist rally at Charlottesville, he called the Neo-Nazis involved as well as the far-right member who ran his car over and killed an innocent bystander "very fine people."

No, you're not a liar or anything. LMAO.

Please keep trying to dig yourself out of this hole. Pretty soon, you'll be in so deep we won't even be able to see you.
 
What makes you think I'm angry? Am I yelling?

Bro, I feel sorry for you. I hope that you eventually get the help you desperately need.

Such kind sentiment from such an upstanding, principled person lol.

I’ll take pass on that pity. You can take it back. I’m happier than I have been in years, thriving even. It’s you who I feel sorry for.
 
Such kind sentiment from such an upstanding, principled person lol.

I’ll take pass on that pity. You can take it back. I’m happier than I have been in years, thriving even. It’s you who I feel sorry for.

There are many people in psyche wards that are as happy as a lark.

But if you don't want my pity, I'll take it back. There...ther...well if you want me to take it back then let go, ffs. Oh wait, you really do want my pity. And everyone else's. Why else would you have made your big announcement?

Good luck with your transformation, or transition or whatever you folks are calling it.
 
Whoa...okay, perhaps I should clear the air here.

First off, @uncfootball- did not offend me nor did he do anything wrong. He made an erroneous assumption about me being 'a guy who likes other guys who crossdress.' I sought to clarify that.

I'm a trans woman. Big whoop. I wasn't comfortable at first admitting that on here to this crowd, half of which probably considers me a deviant/freak of some kind. So I used other people I knew as a front to defend my position. You might forgive me for being a bit reluctant. I've reached the point where I've stopped caring. I'm publicly out. It doesn't matter who knows in real life or online.

FTR, I don't want to dwell on the topic of being transgender all the time on here. I don't go around with a signpost declaring my gender to people for attention or out of a misplaced sense of self righteousness. I'm a regular person with a regular life. I just happen to be a bit different from how most people are born. That's okay. I don't want special treatment or a congratulations for it. But if I see complete and utter lies and viciousness against people like myself on here like @randman1 posts on a near daily basis, I have the right to defend what I am against those who cruelly regard me as subhuman or a 'groomer.'

@gunslingerdick I have no control over your thoughts and feelings. I cannot make you call me any pronoun or regard me as anything you don't want to. I'm not under the illusion I have that power nor do I wish to have that power. What I will say, is that under the law and legally, I am 'she/her' and I have an F marker next to my documents. That's what matters to me. We'll both live our lives accordingly.

Lastly, I'd like to thank @pooponduke @dadika13 @strummingram @bluetoe and others for being cool about this and defending me when necessary. It means a lot. Bluetoe himself had a great quote.

"To me, it's just interesting to be able to have a better understanding of someone's viewpoint. I'm sure a number of people here said 'ahh, now I get it'. That isn't a bad thing."

Couldn't have said it better. All I want is show I'm not a threat or a bogeyman you see in right wing news. To dispel the idea trans people are mentally ill predators. I'm also not some insane, narcissistic, Marxist nutjob who gets offended at every little slip of the pronoun or wants to radically reshape society. In the words of Gwen Stefani- "I'm just a girl." Lol.

Now let's get back to mindlessly picking at each other in a never ending cycle of political bullshit.
It's not vicious. Nor lies. Already said I may have approached you differently in tone had you been honest but yes, the dems are deadset on wholesale grooming of children, and it's wrong.

70-90% of those suffering from gender dysphoria grow out of it. Fact. It is obscene to abuse those people and especially children just to enrich the profits of hospitals and corrupt medical people as well as trying to create another liberal special interests group.

You defend the grooming while knowing these facts. That's what you are being bashed for, not because you are fixated on imagining you are a woman and have decided the only path to peace is to transition. It's still a mental illness but for most it's temporary. Hopefully that will be the case with you eventually.
 
Right. It's largely an attention grab by people with weak egos. They want to feel victimized. Our society has endorsed this culture of victimization. "Waaaahhhh...I'm not normal. I've had struggles in my life because some people are so closed minded. Waaahhhh. I've been discriminated against. HEY EVERYBODY, FEEL SORRY FOR ME!" In other words, my guess is that if social media didn't exist, there would be 90% less trans people in the world. Because if you can't get large scale pity for how hard you have it, then is it really worth it? Oh wait, before social media there actually were 90% less trans people.

There was a time when people who had struggles did everything they could to not air their dirty laundry in public. Now, it's embarrassing. People actually try to out victimization others. "You're only gay and I'm trans so I've had it rougher than you. Oh yeah, well I'm gay and Native American so that's two struggles I've dealt with versus just your one!" No shit. That's where we are.
" In other words, my guess is that if social media didn't exist, there would be 90% less trans people in the world. "

Bingo. Also, if some corrupt medical folks and institutions weren't making bank on it.
 
" In other words, my guess is that if social media didn't exist, there would be 90% less trans people in the world. "

Bingo. Also, if some corrupt medical folks and institutions weren't making bank on it.

OMG, @randman1 how did you know what I meant? Apparently, most here believed I was saying that social media invented transgenderism. I can't believe you were able to make a logical connection of what I was saying. You must be smarter than most here.
 
I like to picture Jesus with a MAGA hat on, giving a speech at a Trump rally, and I’m in the front row, hammered.

When you say grace, you can say it to whatever Jesus you like.

Kidding. Sort of. But for real though, the Jesus I follow aligns with my beliefs. If I end up being wrong about that, then I’ll have to answer to it. Or maybe some of you are right and there is no Jesus or afterlife and it won’t matter. But for now, I believe in what I believe and feel I’m on the right path. Couldn’t give any less of a shit what anyone thinks of it.
I'd like to get hammered and go back in time and take in a Jesus rally, in the front row with my INRI hat on.



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I find it kind of funny everyone on here thinks they’re an expert on trans issues and yet no one bothers to ask the actual trans girl her perspective and knowledge on the issue lol.
Ok, have you always felt like a girl? Are you gay and that played a part? What was the developmental process that may have played a part in gender dysphoria? Any encouragement from others to go down that path early on?

Were you told depression was a result of this?

I can't think of other questions or whether you think these are a good start, but since you asked, have at it and please inform us of your story.
 
Lol you lose dumass


and btw moron the Dutch are from the Netherlands so you lose again. I’ll be messaging you the avatar to use.
You really are a moron if you are quoting BS fact checkers.
 
This is great. Watching someone who is unique, trying to explain to others that are convinced the uniqueness is an "illness." None of them are doctors, or scientists. Well, one of them is schooled by right-wing, pseudo-science lunatics that profit from their own exploitation. Jesus on one shoulder and Alex Jones on the other!
 
I wish you spoke English, it would make our correspondence go a little easier. Also, if you could attempt to explain things more thoroughly instead of one line quips that make little sense, that would be helpful too. Thanks.
“Imagination is the only weapon in the war with reality.”

Hope this helps.

-----Cheshire Cat
 
Lol you lose dumass


and btw moron the Dutch are from the Netherlands so you lose again. I’ll be messaging you the avatar to use.
Wrong.

"

Who will be offered vaccination against covid-19?​

People aged 50 years and over will be offered vaccination.

People aged under 50 who are at a higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19 will also be offered vaccination against covid-19."

Says right there those under 50 who do not have some sort of higher risk will not be offered vaccination.
 
Also,

" The purpose of vaccination is not to prevent infection with covid-19, and people aged under 50 are therefore currently not being offered booster vaccination."

Under 50 without special immune considerations, then you do not qualify for the jab.

 
This is great. Watching someone who is unique, trying to explain to others that are convinced the uniqueness is an "illness." None of them are doctors, or scientists. Well, one of them is schooled by right-wing, pseudo-science lunatics that profit from their own exploitation. Jesus on one shoulder and Alex Jones on the other!
You don't have to be doctor to know if a man wants to cut his balls off and penis, he's mentally ill.
 
Ok, have you always felt like a girl? Are you gay and that played a part? What was the developmental process that may have played a part in gender dysphoria? Any encouragement from others to go down that path early on?

Were you told depression was a result of this?

I can't think of other questions or whether you think these are a good start, but since you asked, have at it and please inform us of your story.

Dude, I'm not giving out personal details of that nature on a public message board. Not to mention I don't trust you a single iota. No doubt you'd use it against me in some manner or use it to do this:

You defend the grooming while knowing these facts. That's what you are being bashed for, not because you are fixated on imagining you are a woman and have decided the only path to peace is to transition. It's still a mental illness but for most it's temporary. Hopefully that will be the case with you eventually.

Yeah, f**k you. Shove it up your ass. NONE of what you say about me or trans people is even remotely close to factual. Zip, nada. Only in your horror show of a brain, you, who has the audacity to treat and say this kind of shit about people you don't know. I've seen enough of your poasts, you'd eagerly and monstrously repress LGBT folk if you could.

DM me with an open mind and none of that' groomer' bullshit. Then I'll be honest about my back story.
 
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This is great. Watching someone who is unique, trying to explain to others that are convinced the uniqueness is an "illness." None of them are doctors, or scientists. Well, one of them is schooled by right-wing, pseudo-science lunatics that profit from their own exploitation. Jesus on one shoulder and Alex Jones on the other!

Yeah! I don’t know why we don’t ask criminals for their opinions before we sentence them.
 
Dude, I'm not giving out personal details of that nature on a public message board. Not to mention I don't trust you a single iota. No doubt you'd use it against me in some manner or use it to do this:



Yeah, f**k you. Shove it up your ass. NONE of what you say about me or trans people is even remotely close to factual. Zip, nada. Only in your horror show of a brain, you, who has the audacity to treat and say this kind of shit about people you don't know. I've seen enough of your poasts, you'd eagerly and monstrously repress LGBT folk if you could.

DM me with an open mind and none of that' groomer' bullshit. Then I'll be honest about my back story.
None of it. It's not being pushed on kids? Really?

Look, if someone wants to do cocaine to make themselves feel better, I wouldn't call that wise but my feeling it's their business.

If they start handing it out to kindergarteners, that's a problem.
 
LOL... and, even more humor, now! What is it you're so fond of saying to @Heels Noir ? LIAR!
I call him a liar because he is one, as my last post to him should leave no doubt about. I really don't like liars, and I'm not lying.....I truly have no idea WTF you're talking about. Funny how you seem to have such a problem with providing straight, sensible answers. Oh well, never mind. My window of interest has come and gone.
 
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I mean there are only two sexes. I tried the first one without much success. So I'd assume we're talking positions lol.
You still have the same male chromosomes you were born with, which means you have never experienced female and you never will. You do not experientially know what it is like to experience being a female. So your idea that you are female or feel like one is a fantasy because you cannot scientifically know what it is like to experientially be female. Your idea of female is just an imagination.

What you are trying isn't being female. It's being trans. If you are fine with that, ok, but don't pretend it's a real gender because it's not.

Everyone is cisgendered. The word itself is offensive because it's just a means to promote a lie.

Harsh but seriously, gender dysphoria like most mental disorders can be induced via manipulation and promotion, and that's what is happening.
 
I find it kind of funny everyone on here thinks they’re an expert on trans issues and yet no one bothers to ask the actual trans girl her perspective and knowledge on the issue lol.
i wouldn’t ask anyone i know personally anyway because it’s none of my business…glad you could do it, full support here.
 
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