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Would you have said the same 2 years ago? Apparently not. On the other hand, I’ve been the same ol awesome me for close to 50 years and never wavered.
We’ll see if this identity you’ve tried on sticks and withstands the test of time. Most fads don’t. People usually grow out of them. Here’s to hoping.
Hmmmm. I wonder how you feel about Bill Clinton. I won't tempt you to prevaricate with an actual answer to that because I think we all already know what you'll say. The point being that you won't judge those you favor in the same light as those you don't. Clinton wasn't just alleged to be a womanizing adulterer, he was caught with cigar in twat....while he was president. I haven't noticed you railing much about what scum he is, or about his wife who threw a slew of his accusers under the bus, only to admonish us a few years later that 'we must believe the woman'. Those are some fine people, I bet your hatred for them is just boiling over.
Meanwhile, how much of that which you say can be observed can you 1) prove, and 2) relate how that makes him a bad president and 3) makes him much different than many men, particularly those who become politicians.
Did Trump collude with Russia? Did Trump try to leverage Ukraine's political leadership or did the other guy do so blatantly and then brag openly about it? Or did the real scum of the Earth concoct those narratives in order to derail him politically? This time I would like an actual answer.
That's like saying the only reason you like Trump is because FOX News instructs you to do so. Talk about some weak-minded shit.
Poopslinger's favorite M.O.: sit crumpled in a corner with a bloody nose and insist your adversaries took the beating. Classic!
Look who took time away from sucking c*ck to only show up here and get bent over. You’re barking up the wrong tree though. You might want to hook up with CB34. Although, who gives it to whom in that situation? And with him being trans and you just being a regular fag type, does his appearance as woman turn you off? You kids with your weird, crazy trends. I can’t keep up with it all.
But I am glad you showed up. Because what would a string of liberal self owns be without your participation? You wrote the book on that shit. So please humor us, stick around and show us why you’re the authority on such. Much obliged.
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Self realization and improvement is a real concept. You should try it some time.
Or as some would call it, being mixed up and looking around every corner for a sense of belonging. No thanks. I’m dandy.
Lol. That’s it? That’s the response I get from my grade A roast?
It’s not even fun anymore.
You mean Trump or Clinton? Sounds like a description of Clinton.
Sorry @bluetoe, just saw your poast.
Soooo... one being "democrat" and one being a "republican", they're both let off the hook as opposed to both being held accountable. That's why I love to watch humans play. It's free entertainment, non-stop free entertainment.
Kinda agree. There are degrees to that stuff and you always thought, at least with Trump, that the ends justified the means. I don't. It's natural that the home team thinks that way, though.
And you've been told the Taibbi story paints only dems in a bad light, despite it just painting a reality that twitter (and most other media) is influenced by bosides.
I have no love for the Clintons. He's likely on the sociopathic spectrum. Hillary is little better. But public behavior and private behavior of course are different. Lots of politicians are slimy behind closed doors but put on a respectable face. Self destructive in personal habits or temperament, but led the country within the realms of normalcy.
I can see why people get sick of that from time to time and vote for someone they deem to be 'honest.' It's not that Trump was honest. He's a two bit liar and constantly bullshits. It's that people thought he meant what he said. And that part is true which is what made him refreshing. There is a perceived genuineness in that.
But it doesn't make him a good leader, President, or person. And this is where my sympathy with some people in politics ends. What you see with Trump is exactly what you get. He's as immoral as a public figure making policy as he is behind closed doors. January 6th and his attempt to overturn an election proves that. He tried to blow up the entire democratic process in order to stay in power. That is what makes him fifty times worse than Clinton. Not womanizing or any standard personal shortcomings.
Trump concocted a scheme with John Eastman to illegally stay in power, has talked about ignoring the Constitution, firing the entire Civil Service, etc.
No, Trump did not collude with Russia. I think some members of his campaign team played footsies with some of the Russkies but there is no evidence to suggest he directly colluded with Putin in order to steal it from Hillary. Democrats were hoping for that bombshell and they were wrong. There is no doubt the Russians interfered in the election, but interference in this case does not mean illegitimate. It means they tried to sow discord, create doubt, and push misinformation.
As for the Ukrainian thing we're going to disagree there so there's no point in rehashing it.
The thing is, you do the exact same thing. We all do. We have our 'teams' but I'm not a blind homer. And you know something, there really isn't a 'team' my philosophical and political beliefs align with fully anyway.
The laptop story has some true parts, therefore the overall story was more censored that it should've been. But given the shady origins it is clear there was dilemma in whether to trust the story or cast it to the tabloid-pile. And the "twitter files" show the realtime discussion of twitter employees wading thru this dilemma.
If the origin of the story didn't involve Rudy ONLY shopping the story to Rupert Murdock owned outlets, and then Murdock's outlets other than the tabloid (nypost) all rejecting it, MAYBE it wouldn't have smelled so shady. Or if Bannon and Guo Wengui hadn't been using parts of the laptop drive's contents for fabrication (some ridiculous pedophile stuff and ridiculous China blackmail stories) perhaps it wouldn't have smelled so shady.
You think the laptop story could've swayed votes, I don't, but as usual Trump ruins everything... took a partly legit story (that Hunter is a crackhead who used his Dad's name for international business) and made it look like foreign propoganda and shat on his own "october surprise"
If the origin of the story didn't involve Rudy ONLY shopping the story to Rupert Murdock owned outlets, and then Murdock's outlets other than the tabloid (nypost) all rejecting it, MAYBE it wouldn't have smelled so shady. Or if Bannon and Guo Wengui hadn't been using parts of the laptop drive's contents for fabrication (some ridiculous pedophile stuff and ridiculous China blackmail stories) perhaps it wouldn't have smelled so shady.
You think the laptop story could've swayed votes, I don't, but as usual Trump ruins everything... took a partly legit story (that Hunter is a crackhead who used his Dad's name for international business) and made it look like foreign propoganda and shat on his own "october surprise"
If you can find fault with "the other side" then it allows you to, not only justify it when your side does it (and they both do it with impunity), but people will actually encourage more of it because it's an extension of us vs. them.
And, of course Russia and China interfere with American elections. American entities do the same thing. They infiltrate on some level to sow discord or push for a certain outcome. It happens locally, nationally and globally. Teams, teams, teams!
i felt like Reagan, bush 2, Clinton, and Obama were likeable enough people with good senses of humor. I woulda enjoyed a beer with any of them.
not gonna lie, i loved clinton…he was the first president that i was eligible to vote for and i’d enjoy doing it again.
after clinton i became skeptical of everyone running for president…i did buy a ron paul tee shirt during one of his runs lol.
the planets align, the moon is blue, and we actually agree on something. I've scoffed at Russian election interference here before, that it's no secret that the U.S. is the king of interfering with the internals of foreign entities. Just as obviously, certain foreign entities try to return the favor; but the mongoloids among us go apeshit because Hillary Clinton says 'Russian interference'.
I'm not sayinhg it's liberals....but it's liberals.
likeable? They put on the pol face and you think they're likeable? None of them would have let you lick the sweat off their balls.
But Trump would. Well, probably Clinton too. Hell, Clinton probably would have asked you to.
but I'd bet the farm that you would vote for either of them. It's telling that you think two-faced politicians are within the acceptable realm of or represent 'normalcy' in running our country for us. You must think normal is subjective.
what Trump said was genuine, he just didn't bother getting the facts straight when making a point. I honestly don't believe people are so gullible that his casual handling of facts amounted to manipulation i their minds. I heard the same stuff that everyone else did, and I never once thought his careless handling of the facts mattered in the least. I'm not that stupid and I don't hate that much.
OK, but it also doesn't make him a bad one. Seeing someone for what they are is always a good thing. It's an even better thing when they are running our country for us. All this petty crap about his character makes zip difference in his ability to lead.
he went a little nuts over the trashing of American standards of election integrity, and I don't blame him. It's weird as fvck that some of us stand by silently as our supposedly sacred right to vote is abused in third world fashion, but then go batshit crazy when someone objects to it.
Trump makes off the cuff remarks, to be taken for what they are worth. And other people choose to make mountains out of molehils.
there's also no evidence that he did so indirectly. It bemuses me that you and so many others ho hum the obscenity of pushing the bogus collusion narrative into an investigative extravaganza that took attention away from the business of the country, which should require that many people receive a good horsewhipping, while trashing Trump for simply fighting back.
you're a blind homer. I've pointed out before, that when you describe yourself you make it sound like you're the most unbiased, logical and balanced human on the planet. But when the rubber meets the road, you're a knee-jerk lib.
I’d kill to have Bill Clinton as President right now. Of course, with the GOP Congress he had in the 90s, making that the best of times in American history.
jeezus. I mention having the sweat licked off my balls and look who shows up from out of nowhere.Sir NyQuil strikes again!
Another bad day for Donald Trump as he loses again, in Georgia and in the courtroom. He's on a roll!
Bring on 2024!!
Bring on 2024!!
But, really... how bad of a candidate must you be if Herschel friggin' Walker got 49% of the vote??? Dude has about an 83 IQ and has no idea how government works. Warnock may have won, but there's nothing to really be pleased about. 1.6 million people in GA voted for a guy whose qualifications are- he won a football trophy 40 years ago.
This says a lot more about a large part of the voters in GA than it does about Warnock.
People will vote for a rock if it has the right letter next to it
Exactly. Despite an influx of white-collar, college-educated young people moving to the Atlanta metro and other urban areas over the past several decades, Georgia is still a predominantly rural state with a lot of old-fashioned, unprogressive voters, much like North and South Cackalacky.
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It's no different than any other state. Politicians and the media have convinced most people to just look at the party and not the actual candidate.
Nah, it's still has a lot of black folks that voted for the fake "pastor" because his campaign tried to make some fictional, loose tie to MLK.
Democrats voted for a dead guy in PA. No shit. That's how tuned in they are up there. As if the Fetterman election didn't already make it apparent.
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On the contrary. I'm entertained. Partly with the idiocy of the general population and partly with watching your obsession with me play out here. Keep following my poasts.
I'm gonna start calling you Calvin.
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