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I've heard people say this, but never seen any actual sources other than some tweets. I'm not saying celebrities never get paid. I know Fiddy has come out and said Trump came to him about it, but I'd love to see some actual sources behind the numbers, because some of them don't make sense.
The only thing I've seen that seemed sourced and definitely legit was that Oprah's production company, Harpo, got paid a million per FEC filings. I didn't see the actual entry on the form, however. At this point, I don't know if any of the other numbers are true in terms of the celebs and what they were allegedly paid, but sadly, nothing would surprise me.
 
Yeap, I'm betting same number of wars this time as when Trump was prez before.
Yeah, wtf does Rand Paul know.

Also, let's not mention wars in the same thread mentioning Hepseth, that's a scary combo. Trump just convinced me the world is fallling apart, so I don't want "fox & friends" running the pentagon.
 
Yeah, wtf does Rand Paul know.

Also, let's not mention wars in the same thread mentioning Hepseth, that's a scary combo. Trump just convinced me the world is fallling apart, so I don't want "fox & friends" running the pentagon.
You're right, Biden has a great group of cabinet officials around him...
 
The only thing I've seen that seemed sourced and definitely legit was that Oprah's production company, Harpo, got paid a million per FEC filings. I didn't see the actual entry on the form, however. At this point, I don't know if any of the other numbers are true in terms of the celebs and what they were allegedly paid, but sadly, nothing would surprise me.
Just doesn't seem logical for some of them. Beyonce is worth a billion, so $10 million is nothing for her and she's never been known as a Republican. Eminem is worth hundreds of millions, has been shiting on Trump for almost a decade and has been political for almost three decades. Like I said, I guess it's possible, but doesn't seem probable. At least for some on the list.
 
You're right, Biden has a great group of cabinet officials around him...
Sorry, this wasn't about Biden, it was about you thinking AGAIN that Trump was going to drain the swamp or go anti-establishment or something. Hepseth is definitely anti-establishment, i'll give you that.
 
Yeah, I doubt Elon spends any meaningful time away from Tesla/Starlink/Twitter to do anything noteworthy. I do find it interesting that the party of small government creates totally new roles when that job could have just been given to a position that already existed.

ETA: there's also a shit ton of government money going to them, so I'm not sure they are the best choices for an independent look.

2ETA: And unless Trump is going to cut back on defense spending, SS and Medicare, he won't be able to make a dent.
a few 'new roles' doesn't even show up as a blip on the big gov. radar. And if something specific is going to be achieved, it would behoove to put a specific someone in place.

Here's a better example of mindless big gov. expansion. When Romney was debating obama, he was advocating the private administration of medicare, largely because of the huge amounts of bogus and otherwise uncollected monies. obama snowed him by revealing that he had fairly well solved that problem by creating a separate bureau just for the purpose of going after that money, and he bragged that they had something like a 50% recovery rate (IIRC). Romney was too slow to counter that obama had just made his point....that in order to clean up what one bureau had mismanaged, an entirely new area of government had to be created, and that it was only half successful at their fundamental reason for being. He might have added that maybe obama should have created yet another bureau to collect what the second bureau failed to collect.



"2ETA: And unless Trump is going to cut back on defense spending, SS and Medicare, he won't be able to make a dent."

You have a good point...but you forgot to include entitlements in general.
 
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Sorry, this wasn't about Biden, it was about you thinking AGAIN that Trump was going to drain the swamp or go anti-establishment or something. Hepseth is definitely anti-establishment, i'll give you that.
Trump IS draining the swamp. He has officially ended the political career and/or influence of Biden, Pelosi, the Obama's etc etc.
 
2ETA: And unless Trump is going to cut back on defense spending, SS and Medicare, he won't be able to make a dent.
Agreed. There's a ton of fat to trim there, and should be the focus areas.
Creating a branch of big gov to tackle big gov is hilarious.
If the net result is positive, it seems like a good idea.
a few 'new roles' doesn't even show up as a blip on the big gov. radar.
Yup. People that think a couple people focused on optimizing government is some huge expansion/expenditure aren't quite understanding the scale of the US Government's expenditures I guess. Or maybe they're fans of huge bureaucratic expenditure in the first place, who knows.
 
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Trump IS draining the swamp. He has officially ended the political career and/or influence of Biden, Pelosi, the Obama's etc etc.
Trump won by less than 2%. And a handful % are just voting anti-incumbent. So almost half the country is still influenced by the types of folks you mention above. Biden didn't lose to Trump by the way, he lost to old age.

Unless Trump goes full authoritarian and silences opposition by creating State media, jailing the rest, and distorts economic numbers (by manipulating Bureau of Labor Statistics and similar), the Dems will likely retake the house in 2026, probably the presidency in 2028... and keep looping.
 
Trump won by less than 2%. And a handful % are just voting anti-incumbent. So almost half the country is still influenced by the types of folks you mention above. Biden didn't lose to Trump by the way, he lost to old age.

Unless Trump goes full authoritarian and silences opposition by creating State media, jailing the rest, and distorts economic numbers (by manipulating Bureau of Labor Statistics and similar), the Dems will likely retake the house in 2026, probably the presidency in 2028... and keep looping.
Is that like regrouping and removing 800,000+ new jobs from the jobs report?
 
I'm definitely interested in seeing what Elon and Vivek do to cut down on the bureaucratic red tape and endless waste. Optimizing government for efficiency is certainly something we wouldn't have seen be a focus of a Harris administration.

Elon has directly benefitted more from government subsidies than almost anyone in history. He’s also shown a complete lack of fiduciary responsibility to shareholders at multiple companies and constantly spews bullshit about what his cars can do. Setting his politics aside, he clearly does not have a strong sense of ethics.

SpaceX is doing some impressive work but that doesn’t really qualify him for a budgetary oversight role. And given the massive government contracts he benefits from, it obviously poses a massive conflict of interest.
 
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Trump won by less than 2%. And a handful % are just voting anti-incumbent. So almost half the country is still influenced by the types of folks you mention above. Biden didn't lose to Trump by the way, he lost to old age.

Unless Trump goes full authoritarian and silences opposition by creating State media, jailing the rest, and distorts economic numbers (by manipulating Bureau of Labor Statistics and similar), the Dems will likely retake the house in 2026, probably the presidency in 2028... and keep looping.
Not going to happen in '26 or '28. You can archive that for your boy @Heels Noir .
 
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Yeah, wtf does Rand Paul know.

Also, let's not mention wars in the same thread mentioning Hepseth, that's a scary combo. Trump just convinced me the world is fallling apart, so I don't want "fox & friends" running the pentagon.

Ron or Rand? Lemme guess, you’re a big fan of whichever one has something to say against Trump.

Your coping has been my lifeblood over the last week. I hope it gets worse.
 
Trump won by less than 2%. And a handful % are just voting anti-incumbent. So almost half the country is still influenced by the types of folks you mention above. Biden didn't lose to Trump by the way, he lost to old age.

Unless Trump goes full authoritarian and silences opposition by creating State media, jailing the rest, and distorts economic numbers (by manipulating Bureau of Labor Statistics and similar), the Dems will likely retake the house in 2026, probably the presidency in 2028... and keep looping.
Your coping has been my lifeblood over the last week. I hope it gets worse.

Hahahaha. I just needed to get a little further down the thread. It did indeed get worse. I thank you for it.
 
You're smart enough to know those things aren't going to be touched in any meaningful way, if at all. Most likely will go up because regardless of what Elon does, Congress controls the money.
Probably true. Do you think any effort should be made to rein in government expenditures, or should we just sit back and watch them continue to balloon?
 
Tulsi Gabbard DNI chief, good pick.
MAGA is pissed that Rick Scott didn't get leader over Thune (ESTABLISHMENT @gunslingerdick 20 yr senator lol ). So will Tulsi get confirmed?

And what you feel makes her well-qualified for coordinating the national intel agencies?

EDIT, Senate is going to be under some pressure regarding her, Gaetz, the fox&friends weekend host, etc
 
MAGA is pissed that Rick Scott didn't get leader over Thune (ESTABLISHMENT @gunslingerdick 20 yr senator lol ). So will Tulsi get confirmed?

And what you feel makes her well-qualified for coordinating the national intel agencies?

EDIT, Senate is going to be under some pressure regarding her, Gaetz, the fox&friends weekend host, etc

Is this your way of trying to get a “gotcha” in while taking L after L over the past few weeks?

Fine. You can have it. I know it’s like salve to your damaged soul.
 
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MAGA is pissed that Rick Scott didn't get leader over Thune (ESTABLISHMENT @gunslingerdick 20 yr senator lol ). So will Tulsi get confirmed?

And what you feel makes her well-qualified for coordinating the national intel agencies?

EDIT, Senate is going to be under some pressure regarding her, Gaetz, the fox&friends weekend host, etc
The best part of these nominations is that they are Trump's nominations, Not Cumala's. I know you are hurting, maybe Bootajedge can comfort you. Did you piss and moan when Biden nominated him? He was after all a failed mayor in Indiana.
 
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These nominations are 🔥

Reddit's r/politics is fvcking gold with the meltdowns. Even better than 8 years ago. Finally getting a payoff after watching the clownshow for the last few years.
What's even better about these nominations is that we know if they are not doing their jobs they'll get fired unlike the current administration.
 
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Probably true. Do you think any effort should be made to rein in government expenditures, or should we just sit back and watch them continue to balloon?
Make an effort, but use the mechanisms already in place instead of making it worse by expanding government with new jobs and unnecessary departments.
 
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Yeah Elon is a real dumbass who never accomplished anything and Rubio is terrible. Wonder why many Dems have come out and praised the Rubio pick?
huh?…leon musk being involved in any policy, like ukraine, is super odd…he’s made twitter his opinions, seems wild to me considering he’s anti regs.

rubio was a trump enemy, what gives?…i’m guessing to get lara trump the senator seat?…that’s fine, he’s in, just seems a bit too much…but hey, get it all done now, please…let’s see how the country does.
 
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