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Yay! They both suck! What a discovery! Thank you, Bill!

He works in the cabinet of one of them and tells the world what a shit-heel he is, and then says he'll vote for him. Say it ain't so!
It's "worked" in the cabinet (past tense, he's not going back and has no ongoing relationship with the guy), which gives him inside knowledge of Washington reality. And he "tells the world what a shit-heel" Trump is, but hitler still edges out the alternative. What's that tell you about the alternative? Come on, you can do it.
 
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I was just citing what women do in arguments. It's actually kind of well known thing. Comedians (maybe even George Carlin!) have made reference to this throughout time. But I should have known you wouldn't know anything about relationships with women. That's my bad.
Is that what 'women do?" LOL All women? The women that are meek and emotional and subservient to their more rational, male counterparts.

I'm not debating you or even arguing with you. I'm mocking you. You're a walking, talking stereotype.
 
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Is that what 'women do?" LOL All women? The women that are meek and emotional and subservient to their more rational, male counterparts.

I'm not debating you or even arguing with you. I'm mocking you. You're a walking, talking stereotype.

You're in no position to mock anyone. Try some humility or just take the L and quietly leave before you're made to look any worse.
 
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He'd been at Biden's DOJ for two years, was the number three person in fact. Before that, he was with the NY AG's office as part of the team investigating the Trump Foundation and led the fight against the Trump administration's efforts to add the citizenship question to the census.
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It's "worked" in the cabinet (past tense, he's not going back and has no ongoing relationship with the guy), which gives him inside knowledge of Washington reality. And he "tells the world what a shit-heel" Trump is, but hitler still edges out the alternative. What's that tell you about the alternative? Come on, you can do it.
It doesn't "tell me" anything about any alternative. It tells me that Bill Barr is completely FOS. He would gladly, willingly and eagerly go back and work for Trump if he had the chance.
 
Yeah, well,...you hate trannies and Mexicans and they're coming for you.
I read that when he accused you accordingly. My first thought was that we are always told that the number of trans is so small that it is not even an issue. As to Mexicans, it's my understanding that all the polls show hemorrhaging of their support from Joe to Don, so I guess they are coming for me.
 
You're in no position to mock anyone. Try some humility or just take the L and quietly leave before you're made to look any worse.
Transgenders are teaching our children to be weak and effeminate! That kind of woke shit is bringing our country down! Joe Biden is evil and responsible!
 
When it comes to someone cheating on their spouse why are you trying to qualify it with their circumstances? I could say John Edward's affair wasn't nearly as egregious as Trump's since his mistress, Rielle Hunter, is a respectable woman who later apologized as opposed to a skank and former porn star.

Again, this says more about your partisanship than anything else.
I'm qualifying it with the circumstances because the circumstances make a difference, as I have amply explained and as you simply refuse to acknowledge. DUH. And what the other involved character did or does has nothing to do with what we are discussing, which is Trump and Edwards. Help me out, wasn't that what they call a red herring? Sorry, it was a pretty clumsy one.

Of course I'm partisan. Me being partisan is based on my beliefs, and my beliefs tell me that John Edwards was hugely hypocritical and a completely immoral POS, while Donald Trump is no angel but has better intentions that any Biden or Edwards. Me being partisan has nothing to do with you claiming that selling bibles is blasphemous.



You missed the point, numbskull. It's not so much that Trump is selling Bibles but the fact that he is aggressively marketing them and added superfluous documents and song lyrics to it.
I missed nothing, no matter how much you need to imply that I did. The posit that I was contesting was that "As for evangelizing, at least John Edwards never hocked overpriced Bibles to his cult followers in a blasphemous effort to raise much-needed funds for his criminal defense fees."

I can't find in the above anything about 'superfluous documents and song lyrics'. It's completely apparent that you meant the selling of bibles for the purpose of profit, period. If I sell anything for a profit, what I choose to do with that profit has no bearing on the legitimacy of the sale. Needing money for a legitimate, real-life purpose is not blasphemy. That being said, it's laughable that you now try to pin it all on heretofore unmentioned and completely extraneous items. Can you not EVER own up to anything?
 
You've got to watch this, but take a piss first or there might be an issue. Joe's safe unless he hasn't changed his Depends since getting up at 9:30.

 
And, they won't learn to speak American, neither! Sumbitches!

Oh, please! SELL them! Get as much as you can get! And, please use more RCC as reference and confirmation that it's a for-profit industry!

and there he goes as usual, off to visit Alice in Inanityland. Hard to imagine this being someone's best hope for winning an argument.



I was just citing what women do in arguments. It's actually kind of well known thing.
you noticed it too. He gets his ass kicked and next thing you know, he lashes out at me with a bitchbite and calls me 'sweetie'.
 
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He would gladly, willingly and eagerly go back and work for Trump if he had the chance.
I understand that this sentiment is your opinion. However, other than a base level hatred of Trump and anyone associated with him at any point in history, can you provide any basis whatsoever for your thoughts? A single quote, interview, prior statement of such, anything?
 
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It doesn't "tell me" anything about any alternative. It tells me that Bill Barr is completely FOS. He would gladly, willingly and eagerly go back and work for Trump if he had the chance.
whether he would or wouldn't, that assumption is supporting @pooponduke's main point, genius.
 
and you fear them.
Yeah, not so much. I could care less what adults want to do with their lives and the choices they make - so long as they are willing to live with the consequences. It's the whole libertarian thing in me.
 
Yeah, not so much. I could care less what adults want to do with their lives and the choices they make - so long as they are willing to live with the consequences. It's the whole libertarian thing in me.

Sounds reasonable. It will be under attack by some of our poasters soon.
 
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I understand that this sentiment is your opinion. However, other than a base level hatred of Trump and anyone associated with him at any point in history, can you provide any basis whatsoever for your thoughts? A single quote, interview, prior statement of such, anything?
WTF? You believe that I can only have that "opinion" if there's a "base level hatred of Trump and anyone associated with him at any point in history"... that's where you've decided to base your assumption of my opinion?

And, on top of that, you need me to prove to you that politicians will do anything and everything to advance their position... if it helps them, there's no limit to what they will do? You need quotes, or interviews, etc.? You haven't actually witnessed it before now? They ALL do it, all day, every day, until they finally drop dead.
 
Why not vote for the lesser evil? Or do you feel they're equally evil in terms of longterm and short-term impact?
lol i don’t know…i’m much more interested in local politics, although just as shady, than i am in this 2024 presidential one…just completely turned off by all involved.
 
lol i don’t know…i’m much more interested in local politics, although just as shady, than i am in this 2024 presidential one…just completely turned off by all involved.
well then hold your nose when you vote. That's what I often do, metaphorically speaking.
 
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WTF? You believe that I can only have that "opinion" if there's a "base level hatred of Trump and anyone associated with him at any point in history"... that's where you've decided to base your assumption of my opinion?

And, on top of that, you need me to prove to you that politicians will do anything and everything to advance their position... if it helps them, there's no limit to what they will do? You need quotes, or interviews, etc.? You haven't actually witnessed it before now? They ALL do it, all day, every day, until they finally drop dead.
the question remains, it seems.
 
WTF? You believe that I can only have that "opinion" if there's a "base level hatred of Trump and anyone associated with him at any point in history"... that's where you've decided to base your assumption of my opinion?

And, on top of that, you need me to prove to you that politicians will do anything and everything to advance their position... if it helps them, there's no limit to what they will do? You need quotes, or interviews, etc.? You haven't actually witnessed it before now? They ALL do it, all day, every day, until they finally drop dead.
But under that theory (which I think is valid btw as I still endorse the joke about politicians only lie when their lips are moving), you are saying that Barr would also take a position with Biden if he was offered one, correct?

It's fine if you want to take your stance/opinion based on the generality that all politicians are pigs, you just had stated it in such certain terms that led me to believe you had something specific. One is just generalized pontificating, the other provides an actual basis. All good.
 
Is that a video your mom took on Betamax of you?
No, it's an example of you bitching and moaning about Trump getting his comeuppance. You wrote in your earlier post "that all prosecutors have to take an oath as part of starting their jobs." and "that oath will include a promise to do 'justice.'"

What proof do you have besides your dubious hunches that Matthew Colangelo is betraying his oath and making his courtroom argument based on anything besides the evidence before him?
 
But under that theory (which I think is valid btw as I still endorse the joke about politicians only lie when their lips are moving), you are saying that Barr would also take a position with Biden if he was offered one, correct?

It's fine if you want to take your stance/opinion based on the generality that all politicians are pigs, you just had stated it in such certain terms that led me to believe you had something specific. One is just generalized pontificating, the other provides an actual basis. All good.
With Biden??? No! With Trump! If Trump offered him a position. I mean, it's not impossible for Barr to accept a Biden appointment or whatever. There is literally no bottom for them. But, no... I was talking about Trump, not Biden.
 
No, it's an example of you bitching and moaning about Trump getting his comeuppance. You wrote in your earlier post "that all prosecutors have to take an oath as part of starting their jobs." and "that oath will include a promise to do 'justice.'"

What proof do you have besides your dubious hunches that Matthew Colangelo is betraying his oath and making his courtroom argument based on anything besides the evidence before him?
Well, I know that this will be difficult, but try your best to follow. Almost universally, this particular case has been crapped on by legal scholars (and there have been many lib commentators lamenting that this case is the first one out of the box rather than one or two of the others that might actually have legs). The biggest thing going for this particular case is a judge that is clearly not in any fashion pro-trump (I'm allowing for the possibility that he is fair, which is not my actual belief) and that the judge forced this matter to go forward in a jurisdiction that voted Biden over Trump 9 out of 10 times. Hardly a picture of neutrality and that's not what one calls a jury of your peers.

But back to your specific question, a prosecutor is required to decide what to do about investigations, charges, and prosecutions. It's called prosecutorial discretion. Part of the history of these particular charges is that they were looked at by NY and they were decided to not be pursued. Then the Feds looked at them and decided they wouldn't pursue them. Then, Biden's boy parachutes into Bragg's office (leaving his much more prestigious DOJ position) and suddenly the case is looked at again and the indictment follows. He's been anti-trump for years and he was sent there with an agenda. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise. Watch what happens down the road. Particularly if Joe wins again, this guy will almost assuredly have a place in a future Biden DOJ or other position.

As to the evidence presented, it's early. I did read that Colangelo referred to Trump and his conspiracy a whole bunch of times in his opening statement. The really odd thing about that is they never charged him with conspiracy in any of the 30 plus counts. Time will tell, but don't kid yourself about the plan and what's going on here.
 
the question remains, it seems.
With Biden??? No! With Trump! If Trump offered him a position. I mean, it's not impossible for Barr to accept a Biden appointment or whatever. There is literally no bottom for them. But, no... I was talking about Trump, not Biden.
Yes, yes the question remains apparently.

Strum, you say there is a general bottom feeder tendency of politicians to do anything to their benefit. Ok, I think most would generally agree with that. And that tendency is the reason that Bill Barr, a politician even though he's never been elected to anything in Washington, would take a position in a Trump cabinet again in the future if offered. This is despite him unequivocally crapping on Trump.

And that stance is not because of anything specific, but because he is a politician with all those flaws and warts - no other basis. But those same flaws and warts don't make it equally likely that he'd accept an appointment from good ole Joe?

Do you not see the issue with this logic? That's why I assumed you were basing it on a Trump hatred or had something specific that Barr had said. I'm done. Either you see it, can't see it, or are just too stubborn to admit it.
 
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Yeah... it's Joe Biden that's the problem. It couldn't possibly be that Bill Barr is just completely void of any sort of honor, character or values. Hell, if anything, it shows just how shitty Trump's choices for his cabinet and staff were. The things that Barr has said about Trump doesn't allow for a worse choice. Maybe he's lying? It just shows how people can adhere to a party, or what's left of a party, over their country and its constitution. He must have been promised something good if he agreed to take that kind of humiliation and come back for more. There's no bottom.
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Quick two part poll of those anti orange or those that claim neutrality.

1. How many of you realize that the prosecutor in the hush money case is not actually Alvin Bragg?

I mean, it's technically under his office, but the actual lead prosecutor is really a guy named Matthew Colangelo (did the opening statement, etc.). Mr. Colangelo's job before coming to Bragg you ask? He'd been at Biden's DOJ for two years, was the number three person in fact. Before that, he was with the NY AG's office as part of the team investigating the Trump Foundation and led the fight against the Trump administration's efforts to add the citizenship question to the census.

2. Still think that Biden and his team's hands aren't all over the current "State" trial against Trump and that the lead counsel isn't supremely bias against Trump?

A little known fact to most is that all prosecutors have to take an oath as part of starting their jobs. Typically, that oath will include a promise to do "justice". A significant built-in bias and political agenda would obviously prevent that from taking place.

But then, I suspect your answers to the above won't matter because the only thing that you care about is getting the bad man orange at any cost.
So cuz the guy was part of Biden admin's DOJ in the past we shouldn't enforce the law and make criminals pay the price for things related to election fraud?
 
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I think it's in the Beatitudes, right? Something like "Blessed art those who have been blessed with gift of literacy, and who art able to transfer my words to parchment and then ransom those scrolls for a handsome profit. Truly, I say that those Americans will inherit the kingdom of God."
FIFY. Don't forget it comes with a pledge of allegiance, onst, and declaration of independence... non-americans can F off and read the koran or books about atheism.
 
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I don't think Biden knows a Mexican from a Martian, at this point.
See? Every once in a blue moon you say something that is actually true.
Quick two part poll of those anti orange or those that claim neutrality.

1. How many of you realize that the prosecutor in the hush money case is not actually Alvin Bragg?

I mean, it's technically under his office, but the actual lead prosecutor is really a guy named Matthew Colangelo (did the opening statement, etc.). Mr. Colangelo's job before coming to Bragg you ask? He'd been at Biden's DOJ for two years, was the number three person in fact. Before that, he was with the NY AG's office as part of the team investigating the Trump Foundation and led the fight against the Trump administration's efforts to add the citizenship question to the census.

2. Still think that Biden and his team's hands aren't all over the current "State" trial against Trump and that the lead counsel isn't supremely bias against Trump?

A little known fact to most is that all prosecutors have to take an oath as part of starting their jobs. Typically, that oath will include a promise to do "justice". A significant built-in bias and political agenda would obviously prevent that from taking place.

But then, I suspect your answers to the above won't matter because the only thing that you care about is getting the bad man orange at any cost.
Drop mic.
It's "worked" in the cabinet (past tense, he's not going back and has no ongoing relationship with the guy), which gives him inside knowledge of Washington reality. And he "tells the world what a shit-heel" Trump is, but hitler still edges out the alternative. What's that tell you about the alternative? Come on, you can do it.
No, unfortunately he can't.
Well, I know that this will be difficult, but try your best to follow. Almost universally, this particular case has been crapped on by legal scholars (and there have been many lib commentators lamenting that this case is the first one out of the box rather than one or two of the others that might actually have legs). The biggest thing going for this particular case is a judge that is clearly not in any fashion pro-trump (I'm allowing for the possibility that he is fair, which is not my actual belief) and that the judge forced this matter to go forward in a jurisdiction that voted Biden over Trump 9 out of 10 times. Hardly a picture of neutrality and that's not what one calls a jury of your peers.

But back to your specific question, a prosecutor is required to decide what to do about investigations, charges, and prosecutions. It's called prosecutorial discretion. Part of the history of these particular charges is that they were looked at by NY and they were decided to not be pursued. Then the Feds looked at them and decided they wouldn't pursue them. Then, Biden's boy parachutes into Bragg's office (leaving his much more prestigious DOJ position) and suddenly the case is looked at again and the indictment follows. He's been anti-trump for years and he was sent there with an agenda. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise. Watch what happens down the road. Particularly if Joe wins again, this guy will almost assuredly have a place in a future Biden DOJ or other position.

As to the evidence presented, it's early. I did read that Colangelo referred to Trump and his conspiracy a whole bunch of times in his opening statement. The really odd thing about that is they never charged him with conspiracy in any of the 30 plus counts. Time will tell, but don't kid yourself about the plan and what's going on here.
You're eviscerating him and he hasn't a clue it's happening.
 
I did read that Colangelo referred to Trump and his conspiracy a whole bunch of times in his opening statement. The really odd thing about that is they never charged him with conspiracy in any of the 30 plus counts.
The fact that he and Michael Cohen were together involved with the hush-money payments and the ledger make it a conspiracy.

I wish you could learn to make your point more succinctly, like in one sentence -- as I just did -- rather than three long paragraphs.
 
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Yes, yes the question remains apparently.

Strum, you say there is a general bottom feeder tendency of politicians to do anything to their benefit. Ok, I think most would generally agree with that. And that tendency is the reason that Bill Barr, a politician even though he's never been elected to anything in Washington, would take a position in a Trump cabinet again in the future if offered. This is despite him unequivocally crapping on Trump.

And that stance is not because of anything specific, but because he is a politician with all those flaws and warts - no other basis. But those same flaws and warts don't make it equally likely that he'd accept an appointment from good ole Joe?

Do you not see the issue with this logic? That's why I assumed you were basing it on a Trump hatred or had something specific that Barr had said. I'm done. Either you see it, can't see it, or are just too stubborn to admit it.
Likely or not likely with a politician? There's no bottom.
 
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