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“CNN's Scott Jennings criticized the White House for hiding President Biden's health and age issues from the public in a segment on Thursday. “

‘“This is the biggest scandal in America," Jennings said on CNN. "And the level and volume of people who dedicated themselves to lying to everyone at home about this man’s condition for four-straight years up through this summer is breathtaking."’

“A Wall Street Journal report from Thursday that includes interviews with nearly 50 people, including current and former White House staffers who interacted directly with the president, revealed that Biden's stamina issues were apparent even during his first few months in office.”


One of the biggest coverups in our history. The “party of transparency”. Riiiiiiiiiight.
“Biggest scandal in America”? Lol
 
“Biggest scandal in America”? Lol
Having the most important person/job in the world handled by someone who is two or three quarts short and literally everyone around them not only knows it, but covers it up and lies to everyone else claiming that he is running at top efficiency doesn't qualify as one of the biggest scandals? I mean, who actually is our president? Who has and is running things for the next month?
 
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Having the most important person/job in the world handled by someone who is two or three quarts short and literally everyone around them not only knows it, but covers it up and lies to everyone else claiming that he is running at top efficiency doesn't qualify as one of the biggest scandals? I mean, who actually is our president? Who has and is running things for the next month?
yeah I have to agree with you there. Considering all the f'ed up crap that has happened under this admin, I don't know how it can be anything less than the biggest story out there...except it isn't any longer for those of us who knew the score all along. Maybe the bigger story, and the more important consideration, is how can people be so absolutely stupid and oblivious as to not have seen there was a problem. And that's not even with allowing that Biden was an absolute zero even before he began staining the White House, in both literal and figurative terms..
 
Having the most important person/job in the world handled by someone who is two or three quarts short and literally everyone around them not only knows it, but covers it up and lies to everyone else claiming that he is running at top efficiency doesn't qualify as one of the biggest scandals? I mean, who actually is our president? Who has and is running things for the next month?
Libs don't care, ABT
 
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Who was the dude being shy about being trans and then insisted he was a woman or was it vice versa?
@carolinablue34 is who I think you are referring to. No longer posting or maybe very rarely doing so. But he did say he peeks in occasionally. Drop a line or two, I'm sure he'd be happy to hear from you. Not a bad sort of...well, he ain't so bad is what I'm saying.
 
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@carolinablue34 is who I think you are referring to. No longer posting or maybe very rarely doing so. But he did say he peeks in occasionally. Drop a line or two, I'm sure he'd be happy to hear from you. Not a bad sort of...well, he ain't so bad is what I'm saying.
That is indeed the person. I've had a couple of direct conversations. While we differ vastly in many political respects, our communications have always been thoughtful, insightful, respectful and without any issue because we can agree to respect the other's position without making it a personal attack. The bottom line is that @carolinablue34 took a break from actively engaging here because it just wasn't helping on a personal level and he believed that his posting wasn't going to change the minds of those attacking. I actually owe a response to a discussion we were having, but was letting it rest until after the inauguration. Despite what I might feel about how things are going to go and would disagree with the perception that Orange is out to get all his detractors, it doesn't mean that the belief isn't real by those who feel that way.
 
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That is indeed the person. I've had a couple of direct conversations. While we differ vastly in many political respects, our communications have always been thoughtful, insightful, respectful and without any issue because we can agree to respect the other's position without making it a personal attack. The bottom line is that @carolinablue34 took a break from actively engaging here because it just wasn't helping on a personal level and he believed that his posting wasn't going to change the minds of those attacking. I actually owe a response to a discussion we were having, but was letting it rest until after the inauguration. Despite what I might feel about how things are going to go and would disagree with the perception that Orange is out to get all his detractors, it doesn't mean that the belief isn't real by those who feel that way.
I also had a private back-and-forth going at one time and it was as you say, very amiable and open. It was an opportunity for me not just to say I'm not judgmental to individuals for what they are but to show it, and that was an added attraction to me.

But when he posted, he kept making it about him and his proclivities in spite of his insistence that he just wanted general acceptance without consideration for those. I have to admit I got a little fed up with that hypocrisy and we tangled a bit here.

Still, I wish he would come back because as I said, he's a decent sort to converse with. And I do have sympathy for his battles, real or imagined. He probably doesn't believe that I have nothing against him based on what he wants to be, but that is absolutely true. I would have no problem hanging out with him. What I have a problem with is the promotion of such and the highlighting it gets in the media and elsewhere. That is not a knock against him at all, but I do wish those tendencies didn't exist. But of course they do, and I have no problem dealing with that reality. I just don't want us (kids especially) to be so massively encouraged to go that route.
 
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I also had a private back-and-forth going at one time and it was as you say, very amiable and open. It was an opportunity for me not just to say I'm not judgmental to individuals for what they are but to show it, and that was an added attraction to me.

But when he posted, he kept making it about him and his proclivities in spite of his insistence that he just wanted general acceptance without consideration for those. I have to admit I got a little fed up with that hypocrisy and we tangled a bit here.

Still, I wish he would come back because as I said, he's a decent sort to converse with. And I do have sympathy for his battles, real or imagined. He probably doesn't believe that I have nothing against him based on what he wants to be, but that is absolutely true. I would have no problem hanging out with him. What I have a problem with is the promotion of such and the highlighting it gets in the media and elsewhere. That is not a knock against him at all, but I do wish those tendencies didn't exist. But of course they do, and I have no problem dealing with that reality. I just don't want us (kids especially) to be so massively encouraged to go that route.
I can agree with much of that and what I am about to say really has nothing to do with @carolinablue34. While you are right about the encouragement of "that route" (talking with my SIL middle school teacher over the holidays has been interesting to say the least) the hypocrisy that drives me nuts is the demand for complete accommodation on the one hand, but the defense that we aren't supposed to even debate the issues surrounding it because the numbers are so small.

For example, recently the head of the NCAA testified in Congress about their policies and accommodation of trans athletes. He literally said that of the over half a million athletes that the NCAA governs, there were 10 trans participating on women's teams. That they are allowed to compete as women just blows me away. I just don't understand why hundreds of thousands or at least tens of thousands have to conform to accommodate the ten who say they are something that their equipment/dna says otherwise.

I don't give a pile of lima beans about how anyone wants to live their lives, but it just seems to me to be the height of hypocrisy to tell women athletes that they have to adapt and accommodate others who are physically men, but they aren't allowed to call it out or even talk about it. If there isn't an issue with the current way they have set it up (and it's perfectly fine that some athletes with physical attributes of men are advantaged by playing with women), then logic would dictate that they make no distinction between men's or women's teams. There should be a single bball team, a single soccer team, and so on. Regardless of gender, whoever makes the team plays and that's that because there is no distinction to be made based upon the actual physical structure that is covered by the uniforms. We all know the end result, but all those so-called champions of women's rights better get ready for the firestorm. To me, that's an issue worthy of discussion.
 
I think this is excellent and worth seeing all the way through. I almost posted it yesterday but realized maybe not the time to disrupt the peace on Earth we were enjoying.

I'll say again, I love Megyn Kelly and her approach...



If nothing else, skip ahead to her take on George Stephanopoulos for a prime example of leftist hypocrisy. I've mentioned this example myself.
 
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I can agree with much of that and what I am about to say really has nothing to do with @carolinablue34. While you are right about the encouragement of "that route" (talking with my SIL middle school teacher over the holidays has been interesting to say the least) the hypocrisy that drives me nuts is the demand for complete accommodation on the one hand, but the defense that we aren't supposed to even debate the issues surrounding it because the numbers are so small.

For example, recently the head of the NCAA testified in Congress about their policies and accommodation of trans athletes. He literally said that of the over half a million athletes that the NCAA governs, there were 10 trans participating on women's teams. That they are allowed to compete as women just blows me away. I just don't understand why hundreds of thousands or at least tens of thousands have to conform to accommodate the ten who say they are something that their equipment/dna says otherwise.

I don't give a pile of lima beans about how anyone wants to live their lives, but it just seems to me to be the height of hypocrisy to tell women athletes that they have to adapt and accommodate others who are physically men, but they aren't allowed to call it out or even talk about it. If there isn't an issue with the current way they have set it up (and it's perfectly fine that some athletes with physical attributes of men are advantaged by playing with women), then logic would dictate that they make no distinction between men's or women's teams. There should be a single bball team, a single soccer team, and so on. Regardless of gender, whoever makes the team plays and that's that because there is no distinction to be made based upon the actual physical structure that is covered by the uniforms. We all know the end result, but all those so-called champions of women's rights better get ready for the firestorm. To me, that's an issue worthy of discussion.
yeah, the small numbers dodge drives me nuts as well, especially considering that those who play that card will complain about things that occur in small numbers as well, and that really have no effect on our lives. Take the 'extreme religious right', for example. The pissing and moaning about that set of citizens dwarfs any possible impact that they have on our daily lives. But take things that leftist/liberals support that do affect at least some of us, and it's 'what's the big deal?' time. To me, if it's wrong it's wrong regardless of the occurrences.

The basic flaw in liberalism that I referred to that drives me nuts is the have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too hypocrisy of 'don't single me out for recognition of the fact that I'm not like everyone else because I AM just like everyone else and I should be considered that way'...but then, 'hey look at me, look at me, I celebrate that I'm not like everyone else and I deserve recognition of that fact along with a parade and some special accommodations'. Hard for me to find empathy for such two-faced hypocrisy.
 
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