Jesus' life on Earth preceded the Big Bang theory, explain that one....dumbass.
Scum like you are the ones trying to disprove facts with physics discovering things later in history.
You can't explain a nuclear explosion without a trigger....try it.
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Scum like you are the ones trying to disprove facts with physics discovering things later in history.
You can't explain a nuclear explosion without a trigger....try it.
Discretionary spending makes up a small percentage of federal spending. You could trim literally every cent of it and we'd still be operating at a deficit. The debt would keep growing and we'd have to live without essential government services.
The US federal government can effectively never default on its debt so long as the world at large still uses US dollars as it's primary reserve currency, and that isn't going to change anytime soon.
Deficit spending also is a primary driver of economic growth. You better be prepared for these spending cuts to come with massive increases in unemployment, which then in turn drives demand for more welfare. Or you cut people off and get massive increases in homelessness, crime, and credit defaults. Rising credit defaults hurts banks and the financial markets so now you're taking a chunk out of people's portfolios as well when the market drops.
Zeus came down from Olympus long before Jesus' life on Earth. Explain that one... dumbass.
That's how science works you f*cking moron. We test theories and improve them over time. Lol.
And I already did. Quantum fluctuations "trigger" a breakdown in the stasis of the singularity producing the chain reaction that "triggers" the expansion of the universe.
You have to be pretty stupid to believe Earth is in its position in the universe circling the Sun which helps provide life on the Earth.....and it all happened like a roll of dice. Strange we have not found another Earth nearby, it should happen more than once with all of this randomness. Surely Mars should have had humans on it at one time since well this Big Bang thingy created us all and everything we see on Earth.
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Actually scumbag, Judaism is what preceded Jesus and Christianity. Zeus is a made-up creature by the lost Greeks. There are more Christians in Greece today than believers of fake Greek gods.Zeus came down from Olympus long before Jesus' life on Earth. Explain that one... dumbass.
That's how science works you f*cking moron. We test theories and improve them over time. Lol.
And I already did. Quantum fluctuations "trigger" a breakdown in the stasis of the singularity producing the chain reaction that "triggers" the expansion of the universe.
Science discovers new things because science is not 100% complete like dumb****s like you believe.
And I already did. Quantum fluctuations "trigger" a breakdown in the stasis of the singularity producing the chain reaction that "triggers" the expansion of the universe. 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
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I agree wholeheartedly. I just have to challenge the intellect (or lack) of those who are believers who claim the seeming incredulous expanse of what we don’t know as evidence of some sort of intelligent design. I can’t prove there’s no god. Or Sasquatch, or abominable snow man. But i’m sure as fuk gonna laugh at those that claim they know they exist.
You're mentally retarded.God greeting Jesus upon his return from the dead
I'm with you, mostly. My take is that we don't really know, we just believe...because that's all we can do. That being the case, I see no grounds for claiming that my beliefs (or disbeliefs) are somehow more valid than yours. Of course I claim them to be anyway, but chalk that up to human nature. Even though agnostic by nature regarding everything, I do have a belief in a greater power, and that belief stems from my personal experience of having some desperate prayers answered. No, I didn't win the lottery.
And I really do love what Jesus represents through his teachings, although I don't take everything I read literally.
I have a great dislike for atheists who want to shove their puny theories of no God in our faces. You don't want to believe in God? Then don't do so and STFU, your lack of belief (or belief in a lack) is no more valid than my belief. But there are several flavors of atheist., and it's explained as saying that to claim there is no God is not the same as not having a belief in God. I actually get that bit of hair-splitting.
I don't count you as one of those because you're more into ridiculing what you see as unfounded belief rather than promoting your disbelief. But I like you and I wish your soul wasn't going to be subjected to eternal torment by demonic sea gulls and tourists.
You will burn in hell someday...God is watching you.
I have more degrees than you have teeth, inbred.
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dude. Was this necessary?God greeting Jesus upon his return from the dead
Of course you are clueless, you made excuses for the New Orleans idiots that set the conditions for the terrorist attack.
Belief through fear... my favorite science.
I have taken more science classes than you. Did you even graduate from UNC?
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Crazies that think everyone's life is irrelevant and that there is no God remind me of a USAFA cadet that emailed the CSAF years ago complaining about removing an 0-6 from his position. The CSAF responded why are you on my radar emailing me outside your chain of command. Arrogance and ignorance of the cadet reminded of atheists demanding God's existence to sway them, as if God needs to send down a bolt of lightning to prove existence. God gave you freewill to believe or ruin your life, without freewill we are robots.
The Islamic terrorist is to blame for the attack, the NO mayor and police chief are to blame for not foreseeing Bourbon Street is a terrorist attack target on NYE. How about concrete barriers for big celebrations on Bourbon street...what a concept. The NO police chief looked like she should be in a nursing home not running a police force.
The same type of idiots run the Secret Service not thinking a shooter could get on a building rooftop in PA to shoot at Trump.
Someone with common sense would see the soft target opportunities for a killer.
It is like Obama and Biden did not see giving Iran Billions would embolden them to fund terrorism in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen to attack Americans and Israelis.
The same type of idiots run the Secret Service not thinking a shooter could get on a building rooftop in PA to shoot at Trump.
Someone with common sense would see the soft target opportunities for a killer.
It is like Obama and Biden did not see giving Iran Billions would embolden them to fund terrorism in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen to attack Americans and Israelis.
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If we all can’t agree with this, there is no hope for our country.
That's not what Intelligent Design is or does. But carry on and display your ignorance if you must.
So you drank the koolaid. Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation as well, I presume, in your world?
Actually, you are the one ignoring logic. It's like saying when did the number 2 live and how long does the number 2 live. Hey doofus, the number 2 is an idea that is by definition not a physical thing subject to time.
Duh?
But an idiot is going to idiot.
" There would be no flow of time during the singularity. "
Oh wow. So you do get the concept there can be no before, right? Yet somehow even though this is something that can exist in science, it cannot exist as an attribute of God, the Creator of all things?
Regardless, all material things have a cause. Period. End of story. The idea of an uncaused universe existing as a singularity which has mass and is physical and material is absurd. If it existed in a material sense, it has a cause.
Btw, can you explain what you think quantum fluctuations are and how they exist and what state they are in?
Dud,e I doubt you even know what "quantum fluctuations" are, but go ahead and look it up, and then explain where they come from, what state of existence they exist in, and how theyZeus came down from Olympus long before Jesus' life on Earth. Explain that one... dumbass.
That's how science works you f*cking moron. We test theories and improve them over time. Lol.
And I already did. Quantum fluctuations "trigger" a breakdown in the stasis of the singularity producing the chain reaction that "triggers" the expansion of the universe.
"trigger," please.
It's a quite absurd theory that some propose, that somehow the universe came into being from random quantum fluctuations. I get perhaps you aren't arguing that precise argument but curious exactly what mechanism you are proposing for the singularity to exist?
LOL. The more you try to sound superior, the dumber you sound. Trying to ridicule the 'science of belief through fear' is maybe the most ignorance you've ever displayed here, and that's a rich field to farm.. If we hadn't evolved believing what we fear, we might not be here to talk about it. Evolution is what caused us to believe what we fear, and it's kept us from going the way of the dodo bird.
Belief through fear... my favorite science.
And that's as if this is even about believing what you fear. Fearing what you believe is more to the point. "I'm afraid that if I step out in front of this bus I'll die a horrible death or suffer a painful injury.. But I'm gonna do it anyway because I don't want anyone to think that I believe what I fear." LMAO.
He's had a loooong history of ignorant posts. It would be impossible to pick the most ignorant.
I'm getting in bed with the devil because I don't want to see two guys in towels making out, with those two guys representing God and Jesus reuniting? I'd sure love to hear that one explained. Or actually maybe I wouldn't.
An absurd theory would be inventing a supernatural creator to explain something that nobody quite has all the answers too. Especially when that fairy tale is based on Bronze Age bullshit from morons that were wandering around the desert 2000 years ago. One critical look at the bible makes it obvious we should not be using it as source material for understanding the origin of the universe.
Quantum fluctuations describe the sometimes unpredictable behavioral patterns of quarks and neutrinos. That produces uneven energy levels in an otherwise contained system that could absolutely be the catalyst for a massive chain reaction.
The observable universe provides us with a massive amount of data from which we can conclude the universe is expanding from a central point. The Hubble Telescope pretty much eliminated any doubt of that by observing the Red Light Shift.
The mechanism for it to exist is gravity. Think of it like a black hole. A black hole creates intense gravitational waves as a result of its tremendous mass warping space and pulling everything around it towards itself. Now imagine every black hole and all of the other mass and energy in the universe at a focused point. Gravity holds the thing together until the quantum fluctuations produce an asymmetry that results in a massive chain reaction that triggers enough energy to escape the gravitational field of the singularity.
The singularity is not really in question. It’s verified by math. The questions come from trying to understand what was happening while the singularity was intact and other more complex questions of theoretical physics. But every piece of evidence from astronomy tells us the universe is expanding from a singular point. We can model the entire observable universe based on calculus that integrates that assumption with Newtonian mechanics. Calling it absurd is just ignorant.
If getting a degree in economics is considered kool aid drinking then I guess so.
I can’t imagine how deranged you have to be to respond to anything I said with a reference to some crackhead’s laptop.
but then, you're the one with a degree in econ trying to tell us how "quantum fluctuations "trigger" a breakdown in the stasis of the singularity producing the chain reaction that "triggers" the expansion of the universe.". I guess 'inflation' is more complicated than I thought.
Holy cow. New guy came in, guns blazing. Lol. I enjoyed catching up in the thread. I just wish @blazers and @Heels Noir and @joeydavid were here to welcome @90sWoollenGymRat . I feel like they'd have a lot to discuss.
Also nice to see @randman1 and @heelmanwilm back after such a mysteriously long layoff.
Also nice to see @randman1 and @heelmanwilm back after such a mysteriously long layoff.
Careful @bluetoe , CatDaddy has a mid 90s fastball. He might buzz your tower.
Actually, the premise of religious belief defies the habits that have kept us preserved as a species. The religious "belief" would be that you're impervious to the bus. Basically, it's like Sacrifice the virgin to appease the God. The bus...and volcano ... exists in reality. The bus is not a faith scenario. Faith is not science. And, coercion through fear of believing in some eternal penance of being on a half-man, half-goat's rotisserie... is fantasy. It's sadistic. Now, technically, our imagination operates through "scientific activity", but that doesn't mean everything we conjure up and believe is real.
" An absurd theory would be inventing a supernatural creator"
Define supernatural.
" Quantum fluctuations describe the sometimes unpredictable behavioral patterns of quarks and neutrinos."
Not the question I asked, and not accurate either if you are suggesting it's all just about quarks and neutrinos. Terrible answer on your part, displaying ignorance of basic quantum mechanics.
" That produces uneven energy levels"
Once again, what is "that"? Where does it exist? What is it? You know, basic stuff. Is it physical or virtual for example and define material/physical and "virtual" so we have some agreement on basic definitions. It doesn't seem like you even understand the basic concepts.
" from which we can conclude the universe is expanding from a central point"
And yet the whole theory here rests on the ASSUMPTION of that being a physical point when in reality the concept of the universe fundamentally at it's core being physical or material has been disproven.
" The mechanism for it to exist is gravity."
Uh huh, so what is gravity? A curvature in space-time like Einstein believed or something else? How can there be gravity with no mass?
Basically you and others are just substituting a mythical singularity for God without any explanation how that mythical singularity came into existence or how it contained the intricate fine-tuned informational and mathematical principles to evolve into the universe.
" The singularity is not really in question. It’s verified by math."
LOL. Verified by math, eh? What a stupid comment in this context. Could math even exist during the mythical singularity's existence before expansion?
That’s the prevailing theory. Knowing about stuff like that is one of the perks of reading books other than the Bible.
Except you don't even understand it, right? You are just repeating stuff, words and ideas of which you have no concept whatsoever as to what they are, right?
One of the big problems with a lot of scientists, including most physicists, and this isn't just my personal observation, is they still think things like particles are "real" and have not adjusted to what basic quantum mechanics show.
Of course, the particle is real but it's real in the way a movie is. A movie is real but we say it's not "real life." It's produced by people and technology in real life, the greater, more "real" world.
Particles and so matter and everything within space-time is constantly being generated, produced by and consists of an immaterial realm which is independent of space and so of time as well. That's actually what the science has proven, not just theory, and is now being used in applied technology.
It's similarly stupid and ignorant and yet people believed it due to an appeal to authority.
You believed the Russian disinformation hoax I bet. Yeah or nay?
I guess that would explain all those religious zealots stepping out in front of buses...no, wait.
Isn't faith belief? Do you believe in science? Then you have faith in it, although you can't prove any of it.
fear of the unknown, for example, is an evolutionary development that keeps us from traipsing into the woods at night to see what's making that growling sound. That's our built-in self-coercion trying to save our ass so that we can make more self-coercers.. That's generally seen as a good thing. And just because not 'everything we conjure up' is real, it doesn't follow that everything we believe isn't.
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