OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[bluetoe]

He err it is Tier 5 with TDS. Trump could cure cancer and the scumbag would complain that means people live longer and will harm "mother earth."

you are aware I hope that his mission isn't to heap scorn on Trump in order to make us think we made a mistake. His mission is to heap scorn on Trump in order to try to save face for his humiliatingly solid stance in being so strongly behind the complete fiasco of Biden/Harris that most people finally wised up about and rejected, to his great embarrassment.

You notice, I'm sure, that he doesn't spend much time trying to tell us why it's a shame that Harris didn't win. He doesn't because he can't because it isn't. I wish he would try though. That would be some entertainment. Realistically, he's left only with trashing Trump as a way of saying 'told you so'. Too bad for him we are at this point too well accustomed to the one-sidedness that the right is considered with by the left with its media allies. We have become accustomed to understanding that the actual news is in what is NOT reported and talked about by the lefties. We understand that what is reported is largely fake.

But you have to give him the persistence. He just keeps banging away and the futility of it just doesn't bother him or even occur to him. He actually feels he's making face-saving points with what he spews. I hope he doesn't disappear again, everything he does is reassurance that I voted correctly..

 

[Heels Noir]

what I'm saying is, I don't bother answering stupid questions or reacting to the inane drivel that you pose. Not sure how to make that any clearer for you. You want to discuss something seriously with me, ask me seriously to do so.

Do YOU send UNICEF a grand every month? NO? WTF? You and Elon Musk are ''killing' world's poorest children' you selfish murdering bastard!

I can't think of a subject more serious than starving children around the world. Let's talk about that if you're up to it.

I've never made a contribution specifically to UNICEF, but my wife and I make regular charitable contributions to the following:
Feeding America - https://give.feedingamerica.org
Pearl S. Buck International (child sponsorship) - https://pearlsbuck.org/help-children-in-need/sponsor-a-child/
St. Jude's Children Research Hospital - https://www.stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html?sl=donate-now
Marine Toys for Tots Foundation - https://secure.toysfortots.org/a/fu...uYRuuRQHt-WTK_FPeJPG2cAlpuYrss-xoCZlAQAvD_BwE

And as Americans, we can ALL take comfort in knowing that our tax dollars are being used for USAID, or at least they were until Elon Musk came onto the scene. USAID's mission statement:
Our work advances U.S. national security & economic prosperity, demonstrates American generosity.

Here is a small sample of what the agency does:
USAID is the lead U.S. Government agency that works to end extreme global poverty and enable resilient, democratic societies to realize their potential.U.S. foreign assistance has always had the twofold purpose of furthering America's interests while improving lives in the developing world. USAID carries out U.S. foreign policy by promoting broad-scale human progress at the same time it expands stable, free societies, creates markets and trade partners for the United States, and fosters good will abroad.Spending less than 1 percent of the total federal budget, USAID works in over 100 countries to:
-Promote broadly shared economic prosperity;
-Strengthen democracy and good governance;
-Protect human rights;
-Improve global health,
-Advance food security and agriculture;
-Improve environmental sustainability;
-Further education;
-Help societies prevent and recover from conflicts; and
-Provide humanitarian assistance in the wake of natural and man-made disasters.

On Jan. 26 of this year, Donald Trump signed an Executive Order that that included the following:
President Trump stated clearly that the United States is no longer going to blindly dole out money with no return for the American people.

Technical Difficulties

No return for the American people?! The purpose and services provided by USAID are among the upper echelon of international public relations. Stamping out hunger and spreading democracy isn't a bad mix, and anyone who calls this mission "blindly doling out money with no return" has no business being in the White House.

 

[Heels Noir]

The part that I find interesting about the "deal" with the UK is how it was immediately attacked by the MSM and their pundits as nothing and no deal at all (and typically, a certain poster here). Well, maybe it's a deal or it's not a deal, or maybe it leads to a deal, or it doesn't. The one thing that I see out of it is that regardless of what the "deal" ultimately does or doesn't do, it means that the evilness of yoyoing tariffs with the UK goes away. Strike a bunch more of these deals/non-deals with other countries who are busy negotiating, then the entire bitch about Trump wrecking things with tariffs disappears, does it not?

The anti's should be applauding and dancing about him finally moving the needle.

It was attacked because both the Trump Administration and FOX News came out of the Oval Office selling it as a major trade deal. Nothing could be further from the truth. First of all, as I've already said in an earlier post, this wasn't even a trade deal at all but only dialogue about maybe coming up with an actual deal in the future. Here are some statistics to consider:

- The U.K. accounts for 3% of American trade (which still leaves 97% of American trade up in the air).
- With the U.S. now imposing a tariff of 10%, it makes it harder for American companies to do business with their trading partners.
- Six months ago, the United Kingdom charged a 1% incoming tariff to countries around the world, including the U.S. So the best we can hope for in a new trade deal is to knock this amount down from 1% to 0%. Those are the stakes we're talking about here. It sounds absolutely ludicrous, doesn't it?
- This "very conclusive" and "landmark" deal wasn't even signed yesterday. Trump admitted that details are still being worked out and will likely change.
- Plans between the two governments include "meeting again IN THE COMING MONTHS to hammer out specific language." And if that wasn't bad enough, once a new deal is finally worked out if it actually is, it will still need to be RATIFIED BY CONGRESS.

Trump was called out by a British journalist, who questioned whether or not this non-deal was being overhyped. Predictably enough, Trump's response was a jumble of nonsense that didn't make much sense, especially when he says "This is a maxed out deal that we're going to make bigger." How the hell do you make something that is maxed out, meaning as big as it can get, even bigger?

 

[pooponduke]

Predictably enough, Noir's response was a jumble of nonsense that didn't make much sense, especially when he

didn't address that any tariff's with the UK have now gone away with more to come.

FIFY

 

[bluetoe]

I can't think of a subject more serious than starving children around the world. Let's talk about that if you're up to it.

I've never made a contribution specifically to UNICEF, but my wife and I make regular charitable contributions to the following:

if I'm up to what, allowing you to look like the doof you are, AS USUAL? Sure, I'm always up to, and up for, that.

All that spewage just because you blew by the simple point I made. If you aren't sending ALL your money (and borrowing even more) to charitable orgs which feed children and look after them otherwise, according to Bill Gates and libthink, you are murdering many of them. So nice try, but complete fail. You are a murderer of poor children, and the weapon you use is the money you don't donate to them.

Hope I didn't miss anything else richly deserving of ridicule, but no way I was going to read any more of that off-target verbosity than I had to.

 

[Heels Noir]

if I'm up to what, allowing you to look like the doof you are, AS USUAL? Sure, I'm always up to, and up for, that.

All that spewage just because you blew by the simple point I made. If you aren't sending ALL your money (and borrowing even more) to charitable orgs which feed children and look after them otherwise, according to Bill Gates and libthink, you are murdering many of them. So nice try, but complete fail. You are a murderer of poor children, and the weapon you use is the money you don't donate to them.

Hope I didn't miss anything else richly deserving of ridicule, but no way I was going to read any more of that off-target verbosity than I had to.

I didn't think you would be up to serious discussion even though you lied and said you were.

This really isn't about private charitable donations but rather how the government spends our tax dollars, which are appropriated by Congress and MUST be used for their stated purposes. So, along with Elon Musk being a cold-hearted billionaire bastard, this administration's elimination of USAID without explicit Congressional approval is illegal and unconstitutional.

Congratulations on being a member of the losing team.

 

[Heels Noir]

didn't address that any tariff's with the UK have now gone away with more to come.

FIFY

In other words, this will be smoke and mirrors, an attempt to persuade the gullible that Trump’s tariffs are actually working.

The "gullible" part is YOU.

 

[chickenhunter]

I can't think of a subject more serious than starving children around the world. Let's talk about that if you're up to it.

I've never made a contribution specifically to UNICEF, but my wife and I make regular charitable contributions to the following:
Feeding America - https://give.feedingamerica.org
Pearl S. Buck International (child sponsorship) - https://pearlsbuck.org/help-children-in-need/sponsor-a-child/
St. Jude's Children Research Hospital - https://www.stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html?sl=donate-now
Marine Toys for Tots Foundation - https://secure.toysfortots.org/a/fu...uYRuuRQHt-WTK_FPeJPG2cAlpuYrss-xoCZlAQAvD_BwE

And as Americans, we can ALL take comfort in knowing that our tax dollars are being used for USAID, or at least they were until Elon Musk came onto the scene. USAID's mission statement:
Our work advances U.S. national security & economic prosperity, demonstrates American generosity.

Here is a small sample of what the agency does:
USAID is the lead U.S. Government agency that works to end extreme global poverty and enable resilient, democratic societies to realize their potential.U.S. foreign assistance has always had the twofold purpose of furthering America's interests while improving lives in the developing world. USAID carries out U.S. foreign policy by promoting broad-scale human progress at the same time it expands stable, free societies, creates markets and trade partners for the United States, and fosters good will abroad.Spending less than 1 percent of the total federal budget, USAID works in over 100 countries to:
-Promote broadly shared economic prosperity;
-Strengthen democracy and good governance;
-Protect human rights;
-Improve global health,
-Advance food security and agriculture;
-Improve environmental sustainability;
-Further education;
-Help societies prevent and recover from conflicts; and
-Provide humanitarian assistance in the wake of natural and man-made disasters.

On Jan. 26 of this year, Donald Trump signed an Executive Order that that included the following:
President Trump stated clearly that the United States is no longer going to blindly dole out money with no return for the American people.

Technical Difficulties

No return for the American people?! The purpose and services provided by USAID are among the upper echelon of international public relations. Stamping out hunger and spreading democracy isn't a bad mix, and anyone who calls this mission "blindly doling out money with no return" has no business being in the White House.

What is wrong with that? If you want to give money for starving children around the world, thats fine. Thats YOUR choice. No one or no country should be required to give to an organization they are not interested in or give without checks and balances. If you want to donate money blindly to an organization and hope it goes to the correct persons, awesome for you. A fool and his money soon parts. And please stop using 'democracy' like it means something. It means nothing to a country that is a republic.

 

[Heels Noir]

What is wrong with that? If you want to give money for starving children around the world, thats fine. Thats YOUR choice. No one or no country should be required to give to an organization they are not interested in or give without checks and balances. If you want to donate money blindly to an organization and hope it goes to the correct persons, awesome for you. A fool and his money soon parts. And please stop using 'democracy' like it means something. It means nothing to a country that is a republic.

Why don't you do a little research before making a fool of yourself?

It's true, no country is required to assist other nations but most do it anyway. Certainly the U.S. is among them. But as I wrote less than a half-hour ago up above, this money to address poverty and world hunger has been appropriated by Congress since the 1960s and this administration's elimination of it without explicit Congressional approval is illegal and unconstitutional.

Your turn. Go ahead and say something else that is profoundly stupid and ill-informed.

 

[Heels Noir]

We have an American pope and a Russian president.
- Jimmy Kimmel

 

[gunslingerdick]

Geeze, a two day meltdown from @Heels Noir this time. Thats twice the entertainment, folks!

“WhErE iS gUnSlInGeRdIcK tHeSe dAyS?”

No where special. Just basking in the glory of the Trump Presidency and watching loser liberals have meltdown sessions online. Each one is better than the previous one. I can’t get enough.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

RFK doing some good?

What he's banning (or may ban) that will be good for health.

1. Cancer-linked dyes and such
2. Junk fook on Food Stamps
3. HFCS
4. Seed oils in school lunches
5. Ultraprocessed foods in school lunches
6. Artificial sweeteners (just an education campaign)
7. the GRAS Loophole (check the 9:00 mark of the video)
8. Allow raw milk
9. Sugary cereals and yogurts in schools
10. Processed meats in schools or SNAP

 

[bluetoe]

I didn't think you would be up to serious discussion even though you lied and said you were.

This really isn't about private charitable donations but rather how the government spends our tax dollars, which are appropriated by Congress and MUST be used for their stated purposes. So, along with Elon Musk being a cold-hearted billionaire bastard, this administration's elimination of USAID without explicit Congressional approval is illegal and unconstitutional.

Congratulations on being a member of the losing team.

lol sure, I'm on the losing team just because you say so. I know how desperately you need to believe that, but sorry it isn't at all true, not now not ever. And your serious discussion contention is bullshit. When you do an end around what someone is pointing out in order to steer the discussion in a direction you think makes you look like you're winning, it isn't a serious discussion....it's just a game. I've tried top tell you, I don't have the time or interest.

YOU posted that Bill Gates called Elon Musk a murderer because he was responsible for defunding much foreign aid. I pointed out that not giving someone something is NOT taking something away from them. Plain as day. If you want to have a serious discussion about that I'm here all day. Again, it's about what YOU put forth.

The implication, nay the straight assertion , is that money not given is murder. Not given by the taxpayer is no different than not given by Bill Gates and not given by you. You can give X amount (like Bill Gates pledges and as you indicate) and crow about what you've done, but the money you do NOT give makes you a murderer according to the idiocy of Bill Gates and the leftist pinko libtards of the world (of which you are one).

So, mr. serious discussion guy, want to try again? Seriously?.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

RFK doing some good?

What he's banning (or may ban) that will be good for health.

1. Cancer-linked dyes and such
2. Junk fook on Food Stamps
3. HFCS
4. Seed oils in school lunches
5. Ultraprocessed foods in school lunches
6. Artificial sweeteners (just an education campaign)
7. the GRAS Loophole (check the 9:00 mark of the video)
8. Allow raw milk
9. Sugary cereals and yogurts in schools
10. Processed meats in schools or SNAP

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The only one I would quibble with is the raw milk change.

Most of the rest sound good, but don't go far enough.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

 

[Heels Noir]

Geeze, a two day meltdown from @Heels Noir this time. Thats twice the entertainment, folks!

“WhErE iS gUnSlInGeRdIcK tHeSe dAyS?”

No where special. Just basking in the glory of the Trump Presidency and watching loser liberals have meltdown sessions online. Each one is better than the previous one. I can’t get enough.

I guess in the twisted world of unadulterated Trump lovers, it may look like I'm melting down but I'm just posting factual evidence that shows your hero to be nothing more than a paper tiger. It's your fellow crotch remoras who are melting down from their inability to make legitimate responses to my posts.

Would you like to take a crack at one of the questions I've asked? Let's hear what you have to say about Trump's ongoing frustration over NOT ending the war in Ukraine after saying over and over and over that he could have it settled in 24 hours BEFORE taking the oath of office.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I guess in the twisted world of unadulterated Trump lovers, it may look like I'm melting down but I'm just posting factual evidence that shows your hero to be nothing more than a paper tiger. It's your fellow crotch remoras who are melting down from their inability to make legitimate responses to my posts.

Would you like to take a crack at one of the questions I've asked? Let's hear what you have to say about Trump's ongoing frustration over NOT ending the war in Ukraine after saying over and over and over that he could have it settled in 24 hours BEFORE taking the oath of office.

Ok. I’ll be frank. I haven’t followed anything since he was elected. I don’t really care anymore. I was one of those just wanted him to win to “own the libs”. So, mission accomplished for me.

 

[Heels Noir]

I pointed out that not giving someone something is NOT taking something away from them. Plain as day.

And I have pointed out that Musk has no legal authority to pull funding that was appropriated by Congress. What he did was ILLEGAL. What he did was UNCONSTITUTIONAL. And he's not even an elected or confirmed member of Trump's cabinet.

Plain as day.

 

[bluetoe]

The only one I would quibble with is the raw milk change.

Most of the rest sound good, but don't go far enough.

I agree with you, but I would be hammering the over-sugaring of EVERYTHING before I even thought about restricting anything else. I am not for undue gov. intrusion, and I am not for gov. dictating my choices, but I don't mind it if a crisis is afoot, and that is at least nearly the case IMO..

I'm not sure exactly what the raw milk thing would entail. I thought raw milk itself could be dangerous...and I've had raw milk before and the taste was not pleasant, although it could maybe be adjusted to.

 

[Heels Noir]

I haven’t followed anything since he was elected.

Sure you haven't.

 

[bluetoe]

And I have pointed out that Musk has no power to pull funding that was appropriated by Congress. What he did was ILLEGAL. What he did was UNCONSTITUTIONAL. And he's not even an elected or confirmed member of Trump's cabinet.

Plain as day.

AND you pointed out? As in not what I pointed out? Exactly, that wasn't the point I was making which you plainly skirted around and continue to avoid addressing. Plain as day. Try again.

 

[bluetoe]

I guess in the twisted world of unadulterated Trump lovers, it may look like I'm melting down but I'm just posting factual evidence that shows your hero to be nothing more than a paper tiger. It's your fellow crotch remoras who are melting down from their inability to make legitimate responses to my posts.

Would you like to take a crack at one of the questions I've asked? Let's hear what you have to say about Trump's ongoing frustration over NOT ending the war in Ukraine after saying over and over and over that he could have it settled in 24 hours BEFORE taking the oath of office.

you're nothing more than a running gag at this point. OF COURSE you're melting down or you wouldn't continue to drag out everything about Trump that can be construed as negative. And what do I have to say about Trump's yada yada regarding Ukraine? I say I'm so happy we now have a president who IS frustrated that his effort to stop the war continues rather than the one who just wanted to throw more fuel on the fire and take a nap.

All these things have been adequately responded to before. Your tactic of pretending that they have been avoided is just another of your lame approaches to 'discussion', wherein you avoid having to admit that you're FOS.

 

[Heels Noir]

you're nothing more than a running gag at this point. OF COURSE you're melting down or you wouldn't continue to drag out everything about Trump that can be construed as negative. And what do I have to say about Trump's yada yada regarding Ukraine? I say I'm so happy we now have a president who IS frustrated that his effort to stop the war continues rather than the one who just wanted to throw more fuel on the fire and take a nap.

All these things have been adequately responded to before. Your tactic of pretending that they have been avoided is just another of your lame approaches to 'discussion', wherein you avoid having to admit that you're FOS.

Dear bluetoe:

This is Donald Trump and I am inviting you to grab hold of my nuts and wash them with your tongue. Do you accept my offer? (please check one)

Yes ____ ............. Yes ____

 

[bluetoe]

Dear bluetoe:

This is Donald Trump and I am inviting you to grab hold of my nuts and wash them with your tongue. Do you accept my offer? (please check one)

Yes ____ ............. Yes ____

Oh I see, here you introduce yet another red herring, instead of an honest response, this one completely recognizable as a flag of surrender. Plain as day.

LOL at the lengths you'll go to to avoid actual discussion wherein you would get yet another ass-kicking. You are the lamest cockbite here, and there's a lot of space between you and second place.. LOL at your lying ass claiming that I am the one avoiding discussion. LOL at you claiming that it is I who can't admit being wrong, even as you admit being wrong without having the sense to realize it. You are one sad sack of shit.

 

[Heels Noir]

This might be more outrageous than, "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, they're eating the pets."


🤣

 

[bluetoe]

 

[Heels Noir]

I'll give you another chance to provide a serious answer to a question. Earlier this week, Donald Trump made a statement about his wish to reopen the federal prison on Alcatraz Island to house this country's most dangerous criminals. Do you believe this is a good idea or not?

 

[90sWoollenGymRat]

demoncrats are criminals

 

[90sWoollenGymRat]

UK Trade Deal

 

[90sWoollenGymRat]

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I'll give you another chance to provide a serious answer to a question. Earlier this week, Donald Trump made a statement about his wish to reopen the federal prison on Alcatraz Island to house this country's most dangerous criminals. Do you believe this is a good idea or not?

Well, the good news is that when he illegally sends people there on Trumped-up charges, it will be easier to get them back.

 

[bluetoe]

I'll give you another chance to provide a serious answer to a question. Earlier this week, Donald Trump made a statement about his wish to reopen the federal prison on Alcatraz Island to house this country's most dangerous criminals. Do you believe this is a good idea or not?

don't know who you're asking but if me, I don't have nearly enough information to adequately address it. I do believe we need more prisons and prison capacity, but for all I know it might be more reasonable to build some from scratch than to restore Alcatraz to a working condition, and it might also be too costly to run and maintain it, given its location.

If any impartial study has been done on the matter I might be interested in a summary, but it doesn't interest me enough to take a deep dive into something you're just trying to make a subject of contention. And that being said, if it is seriously being considered, I have no reason or desire to question it. I want issues addressed more than I want to create issues where none exist. YMMV. Check that...your mileage definitely varies.

And again if me, this is the first chance you've presented to me or anyone else that I know of, something that appears serious; but as I pointed out, it doubtfully is. Your stupid 'give you another chance' kiddy games bore me to tears. But they do exemplify your consistent approach to what you want to portray as serious discussion. I have yet to see you do anything other than try to create an opportunity to throw spitballs. We'll see if this is different.

 

[Old_School59]

Is Heels that BillyL dude in disguise?

 

[chickenhunter]

Why don't you do a little research before making a fool of yourself?

It's true, no country is required to assist other nations but most do it anyway. Certainly the U.S. is among them. But as I wrote less than a half-hour ago up above, this money to address poverty and world hunger has been appropriated by Congress since the 1960s and this administration's elimination of it without explicit Congressional approval is illegal and unconstitutional.

Your turn. Go ahead and say something else that is profoundly stupid and ill-informed.

OK, you are an intelligent person and your family loves you.

 

[pooponduke]

Sure you haven't.

Wow. Never knew @gunslingerdick was hot!

 

[pooponduke]

The only one I would quibble with is the raw milk change.

Most of the rest sound good, but don't go far enough.

I haven't really taken a deep dive into it because it's not available and illegal to sell here in MD where I live. However, I actually know several people who take the time to drive there and buy their milk up in PA where it is legal to purchase it straight from the cow. What they tell me is there is absolutely nothing wrong with raw milk and, in fact, it is very good and much better for you in several respects. One parent I know feeds it to her son and it's allowed him to come off of some medications he previously required.

The problem is that when pasteurization takes places, it kills everything - the bad and the good - so that many of the really good benefits of drinking milk are lost. It's not a selective process. The key, apparently, is the dairy itself. If the farmer has clean conditions and harvests/produces in proper conditions, the milk is completely safe and contains all kinds of goodness. If the cows are always standing around in their own shit and otherwise dirty conditions, the milk is a big risk.

So, I don't think it's that different from many things we consume.

 

[pooponduke]

Dear bluetoe:

This is Donald Trump and I am inviting you to grab hold of my nuts and wash them with your tongue. Do you accept my offer? (please check one)

Yes ____ ............. Yes ____

Interesting to know that you are in charge of cleaning his nuts and could invite @bluetoe to do so. Or, are you just fantasizing about holding such a position? It would explain much.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I'll give you another chance to provide a serious answer to a question. Earlier this week, Donald Trump made a statement about his wish to reopen the federal prison on Alcatraz Island to house this country's most dangerous criminals. Do you believe this is a good idea or not?

I’ll say yes but only because homos like you will cry if we just shot them instead.

 

[90sWoollenGymRat]

I'll give you another chance to provide a serious answer to a question. Earlier this week, Donald Trump made a statement about his wish to reopen the federal prison on Alcatraz Island to house this country's most dangerous criminals. Do you believe this is a good idea or not?

Why would you be worried about the location of a prison?