Mike, I was more concerned with the X, really would prefer the kid not have feminine hygiene products thrown at him every time he steps on opposing courts.
Platek vs Rowan
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Mike, I was more concerned with the X, really would prefer the kid not have feminine hygiene products thrown at him every time he steps on opposing courts.
Lol, ok. My 8 month old son is a product of an interracial relationship. Even though he looks more like me, on the colored side. I will make sure he wears sign stating his mom is caucasion.
All we said was that a person with mixed race parents is as much one race as the other. Do you disagree with this fact?
BTW, my response was to your implication that I hated Obama, something you're in no position to know. Take the chip off your shoulder before you pass it on to your son.
BTW, my response was to your implication that I hated Obama, something you're in no position to know. Take the chip off your shoulder before you pass it on to your son.
Let's get off this Obama-White-Black junk and back to basketball.
In my eyes Platek is a walk-on player at UNC... If we need him to come in and give anything but mop up minutes we will be in trouble. I hope I am wrong. It's troubling that these are the recruits we are getting now, we used to talk about David Noel's and Reyshawn Terry's like this, players who at least had NBA level upside. Really shows the decline that is UNC basketball.
David Noel was a walk-on who was suppose to play football.
Why not give the kids a chance before writing them off?
Want to try to say this just right so that what I mean is not taken in a way I do not intend it. I do think Platek is much better than a walk on guard, he can play at this level and I think will surprise many who are not happy with him getting the scholly. As I have said, I see him some where between Stillman on the low side and Bobby on the high side, closer to Bobby than Stillman. IMO a kid like that can play for most every ACC team unless you only play 7 guys and need them all to be Micky D 5star one & done hyped.
Now, having said that, the only thing that concerns me about this kid getting the ship is that I did not feel this was a real area of need (the 2 guard spot) and felt maybe I would have preferred that ship to go more to a stronger area of need, front court help. Now that does not mean I am mad we got the kid, he is a Tar Heel now and I welcome him and support him with open arms but I can still do that and opine that I may have been happier to have seen our area of need filled more so than an area we are/were so well stocked in.
"In my eyes Platek is a walk-on player at UNC... If we need him to come in and give anything but mop up minutes we will be in trouble."
People were saying the exact same thing about Luke and they were wrong. People have very short memories.
As for SG not being an area of need, does any major basketball school get less out of the SG spot than we do? We need shooters in the worst way.
People were saying the exact same thing about Luke and they were wrong. People have very short memories.
As for SG not being an area of need, does any major basketball school get less out of the SG spot than we do? We need shooters in the worst way.
Well, Dave, the bonus many are missing is that he helps in a very big area of soon-to-be need --- PG depth.
gary, you talking about after next season when Joel graduates? Gonna assume you are so the question becomes will Jalek actually be one & done if Joel is back, considering the depth we have at the 2, will he get enough PT at the 2 and backing up the point for him to be one & done, not so sure myself. Does jalek become Joel's primary back up next season, again, in Dec & first coupe weeks in jan I would have easy said yes, now, 7th is playing better and I am not as sure. Jalek's best position is at the 2, he is more of a scorer than a distributor.
Don't forget, we have Colby coming in from the 2018 class, thou he is IMO more a pure shooter than Jalek I see him as maybe more of the PG mindset than Jalek. Either way we see that, I don't think many if any would argue that Platek is going to see many minutes at the point, unless injury drives it. I think at best he is 4th string PG next season and 3rd the season after if not 4th (depending on who stays or not between Joel/Jalek/Colby/7th). Then we have the question of where leaky fits in, is he a long 2 or a wing, I suspect wing and maybe even a 4 by the time he gets to us but don't forget, he has been a PG most of his career, could he be a 6'9" PG for us in the mold of say Livingston (kid commited to duke but went straight to the NBA)?
Not fussing or anything just wondering about that PG need both short as well as long term? No offer out to Dotson would tell me that Roy is not feeling the PG need so much right now?
That's likely one reason Andrew was offered --- his Bobby Frasor-like versatility. He has the vision, court-awareness and innate sense of spacing to effectively run a college team from the Point tomorrow if needed.
As for the future, White isn't a natural PG, Leaky sure as hell isn't (his playing that position in AAU was a novelty more than a reality), and 7th has shown he isn't. No offer for Dotson just meant to me that Roy recruited Jalek as JB's successor (as he should be).
So, let's look at next season: The only intel I have on JB's status is that (unlike Jackson) he has not already decided he is leaving. He may stay (please!), but that could also easily go the other way (especially depending on the next few weeks). So let's say that it does, and JB leaves (hopefully with a Natty):
Jalek starts from day-1 at PG, and that's more than fine, BUT... who's your backup? 7th? That is not his best college position but, hey, he at least got some valuable experience and schooling this season, so OK. Andrew brings another guy capable of playing PG.
Remember what happens when a PG goes down? --- and a lot of them do (ask Xavier). You need quality depth there. As for Jalek, I have heard that he is not set on being OAD (good!), but even if so you still hafta foresee the reality that he may be 2AD. And of course on the wings we'll have first Theo then Kenny moving on, etc etc. It is impossible to overstate the value a versatile 4-yr guy like Andrew brings to the program.
Was not really disagreeing with you, just wanted to see if you were suggesting Joel would not be with us next season and from this post and one on another thread I see your position on that now.
Now I am not going to argue that Jalek or 7th are better PGs than 2s, I do think they are both more combo guards than true PGs. But ya know one thing I love about watching freshmen play for Roy, it is the in season development we see. It is the watching a kid struggle some early, hit that freshman wall, and then watching him bounce back and slowly become the player that we felt he could be.
I have enjoyed watching 7th develop during this season, not sure if everyone watches for the same things I watch for but for what I do watch for 7th has come an amazing distance from where he began this season at. Honestly, for a while there I was worried about and for him, he was confused, not totally healthy, his confidence bottomed out, was afraid that he may look to get back home to SC.
The kid suffered from way to much hype, way to many looking at him to be a player he was just not ready to be so pretty much anything he did was going to be a disappointment and he clearly felt the weight of that. We fans (of all programs) do these kids a severe dis-service by hyping them up to be more than they can ever deliver as freshmen in college. When reality sets in everyone is upset and they focus that on to the kid and that really just isn't fair. 7thn is a kid that has suffered from over hype since he was a freshman in high school but this kid has always found his way, kid is a fighter and he fought thru it in high school, he is beginning to show that he is going to find a way to fight thru it in college.
Well, I'll just say that Jalek is only a combo in that he can certainly play a scorer role as an athletic 2, but make no mistake, he has PG (figuratively and literally) in his DNA. He could play beside and back up JB as a frosh and step in as full-time PG as a soph... or if JB leaves, start at PG from day one.
Our back court IMO, will be a bit of a puzzle next season. I mean some see Jalek as potential one & done, not so sure I would go all the way there just yet but no doubt he will play solid minutes. The question is where does he play and for how many minutes? I may be alone in this but I do not think 7th is going to be all that easily moved out as our primary PG back up, time will tell. The PT at the 2, geez, Kenny, Jalek, BRob, maybe even 7th, Platek?
Roy has used BRob more as a wing this season so you would figure he would be the natural back up for Theo at the wing left vacant by JJ. Just not sure I love BRob at the wing, will have to see how his off season conditioning and weight room work pays off. But in my eyes I see BRob as more a 2 than a 3.
I will say this much, if these kids expect to get 25mins a game at the 2 spot next season, they better have the off season of their lives because the competition for PT at that position is going to be intense, maybe the most deep I have ever seen for that one position. You are talking at least 3 deep that could start for most programs in the country, that is crazy!
I will be amazed if Jalek doesn't start next year, regardless of whether Joel returns or not. I think Joel will return so I see Joel, Jalek, and Theo starting with their primary backups being 7th, Kenny, and Brandon(who I think will be capable of playing SF after an offseason with Jonas). That's a great group of players.
I'd be more than willing to bet that a junior KW starts over a freshman Jalek. Nothing in Roy's history suggests KW won't start. Jalek may get starter minutes, but he won't start
Roy has started freshmen before. Jalek's offensive skills are far superior to Kenny's. We will need that next year, much more so than this year and many are already saying Kenny should lose his starting spot.
He has started freshman before, but it's usually due to the fact that they are far and away the better option. Maybe that will be the case with Jalek, but given the fact that Roy usually starts upperclassman and what I will assume will be Kenny's natural improvement over the summer I just don't see Jalek starting. Everyone wants Kenny to go to the bench because of Theo, but Theo will most likely move to the three next year so that won't be an issue. Also, people are forgetting how well Kenny played in non conference games. At one point his three point percentage was well over 40% and he wasn't hesitant to shoot the ball.
That was in non-conference games. I love his defense but his offense is almost non-existent. We can afford that this year with JJ and Kennedy, we can't next year with them gone.
It still shows that he is capable of doing it though. I think right now it's just a confidence thing. I think he will improve over the summer and be capable of giving us what we need. Only time will tell I guess.
If you don't care about my topic, why did you post a response and criticize a young man that's work hard to get in shape and givin his all to UNC for 4 damn years..great post dude
They are different level of players? Rowan looked great tonight?? Haha..Platek has great potential as a 4 year guy..You need to calm down and take a look at your initial post on this topic..Again, get it together and think clearly
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