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Let me see if I can make some sense of this nonsensical discussion.

Sean Spicer made several statements during the press conference. The first one being called into question is this: "[P]hotographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way, in one particular tweet, to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the National Mall." That's an absolute lie. Both photos were taken 45 minutes before the respective oaths of office were taken. The authenticity of the crowd attendance can also be confirmed in a time-lapse video of the event, where you can see people leaving in the last seconds of the video, i.e. it shows the crowd at its maximum size.

The other thing Spicer said was, "This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration -- period -- both in person and around the globe." The Neilsen numbers show that there were an estimated 30.6 million TV viewers compared to the record of 41.8 million for Reagan's first inauguration. That doesn't count streaming viewers. The same article cites CNN as having 3.2 million concurrent viewers as its peak, also noting that CNN has the largest online audience. So were there enough online viewers to close the 11.2 million gap to eclipse Reagan? That's probably unknowable, so Spicer definitively saying "period" was kind of silly.

Finally, Kellyanne Conway was getting drilled in a live interview where Chuck Todd was making a wholesale criticism of multiple statements made by Spicer. If he wanted to address the actual facts, he should have taken one statement at a time rather than conflating the issue. Yes, her uttering the phrase "alternative facts" was pretty stupid, but we love to latch on to stupid things public figures say, like when Obama said there are 58 states. What she probably meant was that they were basing their press conference statement off different sources of information than what had been presented in the media.

That said, I find it deeply troubling but not surprising that the entire press conference was spent arguing over something so asinine. It was a pitiful attempt to frame Trump in the most favorable light possible, but for what purpose? Terrible precedent for the administration.
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Reminds me of Nuk'EM and his statistic of 95 million people unemployed. A third of our population is out of work. An alternative fact.
 
Does the defense rest?

I'm not sure, you'll have to ask whoever that is. I agree you're the prosecution, trying to nail Trump on something. I'm merely the outside voice called in to give some other possible scenarios outside of the one you're trying to push.

Reminds me of Nuk'EM and his statistic of 95 million people unemployed. A third of our population is out of work. An alternative fact.

That is not an alternative fact. That's a falsehood. Try to keep up.
 
That is definitely good news that cancers are being caught earlier and more often. This says that ACA has made colonoscopies free, when they used to be $275. So the prevention was still possible in the past, but obviously wouldn't happen if people weren't willing (or able) to pay for them. So then the question boils down to whether it's worth it to you to pay for colonoscopies for other people who wouldn't be willing (or able) to pay for their own. The answer to that probably varies from person to person.

i bet you already know my answer...;)
 
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And while everyone is worrying about Inauguration numbers, Trumps Cabinet nominees are being appointed without any real media scrutiny or interest.

Once again he is playing his opponents and they don't even know it.
 
And while everyone is worrying about Inauguration numbers, Trumps Cabinet nominees are being appointed without any real media scrutiny or interest.

Once again he is playing his opponents and they don't even know it.

Bush had his nominees all pass through, and so did Obama . . its unlikely that any of Trump's choices will not be approved. I should think that there are folks on both sides that would agree he has made some good picks.

His CIA visit/speech on Saturday pretty much rules out anything genius about himself.
 
Oh, and he is doing it again. I just heard on news radio that Trump insists he would have won the popular vote if millions of votes had not been cast by illegal immigrants.

2 stories later- Trump plans to announce Supreme Court pick.

Watch which one gets the airplay.
 
Bush had his nominees all pass through, and so did Obama . . its unlikely that any of Trump's choices will not be approved. I should think that there are folks on both sides that would agree he has made some good picks.

His CIA visit/speech on Saturday pretty much rules out anything genius about himself.

Pass yes. Scrutiny?

You are just salty because the union leadership loves him.
 
Pass yes. Scrutiny?

You are just salty because the union leadership loves him.

I'm not. LOL

Will they love him in a couple years . . ? I hope so.

Try to remember this, Rich . . Trump knows he won the union vote and he's showing them some appreciation. Nice little scene at the WH, photo-ops and all . .
We should all be glad that DT is a working man's Prez.
 
That is an alternative fact.

How so? Did i miss the thread about cabinet picks?

No, it is an alternative fact. The media is focused on the turnout (fact) and as a result they have less bandwidth to be focused on appointments (another fact). The term was used correctly, instead of as a synonym to "lie" as has been pushed strongly by Trump's opponents.
 
I'm salty because Betsy DeVos is unqualified for the position and Tom Price has ethical issues.

The ACA is far more likely to be amended than repealed.

I've seen what happens when people who are completely qualified to be Sec Ed become Sec Ed. Arne Duncan's Common Core is some of the worst crap to ever come out of the Dept of Ed. At this point one of Blue's panhandlers would be better.
 
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And while everyone is worrying about Inauguration numbers, Trumps Cabinet nominees are being appointed without any real media scrutiny or interest.

Once again he is playing his opponents and they don't even know it.
Why do you think they need media scrutiny? Congress approves them not the media.
 
Your logical fallacy is false equivalence.

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I've seen what happens when people who are completely qualified to be Sec Ed become Sec Ed. Arne Duncan's Common Core is some of the worst crap to ever come out of the Dept of Ed. At this point one of Blue's panhandlers would be better.
Any power related to education needs to be given back to the states and counties. They know what fits their needs better than the federal government. I find the pick questionable, but it hasn't been going well as is. It's a risky pick and I hope it works out.
 
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As a heart attack. Trump has no credibility with anyone but his base, you and people like you. That's a dangerous position for the country to be in when world leaders, congress, most Americans, etc. can't believe a word that the man says. And please drop the salty crap, use google and come up with something else, it makes you appear stupid.
 
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As a heart attack. Trump has no credibility with anyone but his base, you and people like you. That's a dangerous position for the country to be in when world leaders, congress, most Americans, etc. can't believe a word that the man says. And please drop the salty crap, use google and come up with something else, it makes you appear stupid.
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Any power related to education needs to be given back to the states and counties. They know what fits their needs better than the federal government. I find the pick questionable, but it hasn't been going well as is. It's a risky pick and I hope it works out.
Do you believe that the Department of Education should set some sort of unifying standard(s) for the states? If so, what should be the extent of federal involvement?
 
As a heart attack. Trump has no credibility with anyone but his base, you and people like you. That's a dangerous position for the country to be in when world leaders, congress, most Americans, etc. can't believe a word that the man says. And please drop the salty crap, use google and come up with something else, it makes you appear stupid.

So why should the media not scrutinize his cabinet picks?

And you are salty. Salty, salty salty.

Salty.
 
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