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Puff is gone

I wonder if Nickel knew Puff was leaving? A lot of minutes at SF next year if Tyler had stayed with Leaky graduating and Puff transferring
 
He realized that HD was recruiting over him, so he is leaving. Makes perfect sense.
But Hubert hasn't recruited over him. The only incoming recruits are a combo guard (Wilcher) and a big man who may be growing into a college center (High.) Our only serious portal recruit is a 6'4" shooting guard from Towson.

He wasn't recruiting over Puff. Puff was the last forward on the roster.

This is yet another bad look for Hubert. Cam's little brother quitting the team. Watch him transfer to Pitt and join a team that knows how to beat Hubert's ass, while simultaneously alienating Cam from the program.
 
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Recruiting over him could mean offers in the portal. Either way I liked puff. But after All the offseason talk of us being ok during the 2022 season if we didn’t land a power forward and him starting. I was less then impressed with him. Love the hustle. But he can’t be relied on(constantly hurt) as well. Hope the best to him. But we need shooters. I personally believe if Armando comes back with Davis and we are able to get some guys to stretch the floor. We could be in for a good bounce back year. Need some shooters and hope that a couple guys can finally add some depth.
 
With all the small forwards leaving… what does it mean? A reclass or you getting Brandon miller to transfer from Alabama? Man Hubert will demolish this program to the ground
 
This one surprises me.
This one surprises me but does not shock me. Hard truth is, I was very high on Puff when he came to us, he was and looked like a really solid jump shooter that had really good length, needed to bulk up for the college game. Problem was he didn't develop in to a consistent shooter, stayed hurt and lost weight rather than add it? He had all the opportunity he could ask for, Hubert would play him quicker than any other on the bench. But in the end you got to produce and frankly he just didn't.

This swings the door wide open for a big time portal wing, what I prefer rather than a Jackson reclass, I want a kid physically ready to play aggressive that can shoot and drive. After the smoke clears there will be more than 1 guy like that in the portal for us to go hard after. Hate it but this is the time of the year hard choices happen and we fans really need to really consider exactly what we lose as opposed to what we can gain and frankly, Puff did not pay as well as I would have expected him to last season so it was harder to see him really being a major cog for us next season. He has had 3years to develop and that development just has snot been what should have been the expectation.

Great kid, I wish him the best, hope it works out for him.
 
Recruiting over him could mean offers in the portal. Either way I liked puff. But after All the offseason talk of us being ok during the 2022 season if we didn’t land a power forward and him starting. I was less then impressed with him. Love the hustle. But he can’t be relied on(constantly hurt) as well. Hope the best to him. But we need shooters. I personally believe if Armando comes back with Davis and we are able to get some guys to stretch the floor. We could be in for a good bounce back year. Need some shooters and hope that a couple guys can finally add some depth.
We haven't offered a single forward in the portal yet. In fact the 3 portal players reported to have gotten contact are all guards.

Puff was the last forward left on the roster.

Now we have to find a starting 3, a starting 4, possibly a starting 2, and we'll have to find players to back up both forward spots (which is going to be a tough sell based on Hubert's bench usage.)

And we might lose our top committed recruit for the 2nd class in a row.
 
So - Leaky comes back for a 5th year and Styles and Johnson stay. Now Leaky leaves and 35 minutes are up for grabs and Everyone at the position leaves? Maybe Leaky is getting another extra year and we don’t know about it.
 
Last season Puff averaged 4.1 pts and 2.7 rebounds in about 16mins a game...
Styles was 1.9pts and .9 rebounds a game...
Nickel was 2.1 pts and .6 rebounds...
McKoy was 1.7 pts and 1.2 rebounds

That totaled is about 10pts a game and 5.5 or so rebounds a game? Remind me again how hard losing those guys really is?
 
Sad to see, but he was definitely going to be recruited over in the portal because he has never been reliable enough to count on, and certainly hasn't proved he can be a starter.

Maybe we should have offered him a redshirt so he could try to be like his brother (who took 5 years to be good and 6 years to become a superstar). But even if that was an option, that boat has sailed.

I liked his energy, his quickness, and his attitude. He still could have planned to start the following season. Maybe he'd have to back up a portal guy this coming season, since none of our 2024 class is a tall SF. But maybe he didn't want to wait.

Good chance he can start and do very well somewhere else, if he can stay healthy.

I was going to say he could do better in a weaker conference. But the ACC has become a weaker conference, so how low does he need to go?
 
Wait and see buddy.
Exactly. You don't have a clue. You're grasping at straws to explain why half the team and our top commits are all leaving.

It must be these invisible portal players that don't have names or stats. Surely they are the reason Puff Johnson has completely given up on UNC basketball with 80 minutes a game at the 3 and 4 spots available next season.
 
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Sad to see, but he was definitely going to be recruited over in the portal because he has never been reliable enough to count on, and certainly hasn't proved he can be a starter.

Maybe we should have offered him a redshirt so he could try to be like his brother (who took 5 years to be good and 6 years to become a superstar). But even if that was an option, that boat has sailed.

I liked his energy, his quickness, and his attitude. He still could have planned to start the following season. Maybe he'd have to back up a portal guy this coming season, since none of our 2024 class is a tall SF. But maybe he didn't want to wait.

Good chance he can start and do very well somewhere else, if he can stay healthy.

I was going to say he could do better in a weaker conference. But the ACC has become a weaker conference, so how low does he need to go?
Pitt

Where his family attended, a place he feels at home, on a team that just swept us, for a coaching staff that relies heavily on tall wings and comboforwards, with an assistant coach that will happily feed into the "UNC mistreated us" mentality.
 
Exactly. You don't have a clue. You're grasping at straws to explain why half the team and our top commits are all leaving.

It must be these invisible portal players that don't have names or stats. Surely they are the reason Puff Johnson has completely given up on UNC basketball with 80 minutes a game at the 3 and 4 spots available next season.
I have many clues, I just don’t want to tell them to you. It’s funny that you think there won’t be hundreds of more portal guys enter over the next two weeks that we’ve already back channeled.

Take care man.
 
Last season Puff averaged 4.1 pts and 2.7 rebounds in about 16mins a game...
Styles was 1.9pts and .9 rebounds a game...
Nickel was 2.1 pts and .6 rebounds...
McKoy was 1.7 pts and 1.2 rebounds

That totaled is about 10pts a game and 5.5 or so rebounds a game? Remind me again how hard losing those guys really is?
This is the hard truth. I think there needs to be a collective breath at this point. Let the thing play out. HD is not a moron as some have suggested on here! PERHAPS there is also some reclassification possibilities going on behind the scenes as well. I just think everyone needs to take a collective breath.
 
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Exactly. You don't have a clue. You're grasping at straws to explain why half the team and our top commits are all leaving.

It must be these invisible portal players that don't have names or stats. Surely they are the reason Puff Johnson has completely given up on UNC basketball with 80 minutes a game at the 3 and 4 spots available next season.
Or maybe just being respectful to the teams and players who haven’t announced.
 
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We've now lost ALL our small forwards. Hubert needs to add 2 from the portal or decommits. None of our 2024 class is a tall-enough SF, so reclassifications probably won't do the trick, even if Drake Powell - only 6'5 and 170 - is willing.

Then again, what's up with Jarin Stevenson? Could he commit, reclassify and play SF?

Rumor has it that Hubert is guaranteeing Caleb 35 minutes a game if he will return and play SF. No need to actually hit shots or make good decisions.

That was a joke. Or was it?
 
Pitt

Where his family attended, a place he feels at home, on a team that just swept us, for a coaching staff that relies heavily on tall wings and comboforwards, with an assistant coach that will happily feed into the "UNC mistreated us" mentality.
Sounds plausible. But can Puff hope to compete on such a physical team? He didn't muscle up last summer, but I'm guessing he'll have to if he wants to start for Pitt.
 
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